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The No Fap Experiment

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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 23:21:37
September 03 2013 00:59 GMT
#1
      Starting Friday, Aug 30 5:57am GMT (GMT+00:00), I am pledging to stop fapping cold turkey. The reasons for this are simple.
  • I feel my results with woman irl are suffering, I have no motivation to go out and pursue a woman even when she is showing me signs of interest because I could just go home and get the same result.
  • The lack of success in life with woman is beginning to influence my self-confidence. I have a great personality, and I am not averse to risks. In a commuter school, I am very well known and popular within my major, and even outside my major. Quite possibly the most well known within my year.
  • I have many regrets from passing up the opportunity to bed and start a relationship with very sweet, smart and sexy women because my urge to pursue them has disappeared.
  • I find it hard to go to sleep on time, which after reading could likely be caused by porn addiction.
  • I pass up on a lot of opportunities that I later regret.


The new rules I am living by are the following.
  1. No looking at porn, avoid any suggestive pictures.
  2. No fapping or edging.
  3. Regularly I will record my results of that day.
  4. I will answer any Q&A that is requested.
  5. I will update this thread often as a tool to keep me honest.

New goals in life:
  • I am going to start practicing more songs on my guitar.
  • I am putting on a "Overcome" plastic wristband to remind myself of this decision, I will not take it off at minimum for a month.
  • I am going to focus on weight training, eventually focusing on cardio and overall fitness.

No Fap field test notes begin NOW


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I was scared when i image searched for "funny anti-porn". Saw some weird stuff, but was not tempted at all, it was weird

+ Show Spoiler [Night 0] +

Feeling good about this decision, thinking about how this decision can help me in other areas of life such as weight lifting, work, school, and my recent start-up business. First challenge is going to be the night tonight.

Decided to shower again before sleep. I found myself taking extra time shaving. Felt proud, as well as confident in this journey. Although this might be a false sense of security, I feel focused. Purely placebo, I'll not look a gift horse in the mouth however.

On a side note: within the last week I started going to the gym with my friend, and upped my bench from 135lbs to 250lbs, and my squats from 225lbs to 500lbs. I am 6'2", 170lbs for reference. I am going to track my workout growth in this thread as well.

Motivational Video of the Day:+ Show Spoiler [Music Video] +

http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=oHmJtBu9ngc


+ Show Spoiler [Day 1] +

Part 1: Morning until end of work
Woke up feeling the best I have felt waking up in a long time. Ran 130 checks for 500k with zero mistakes, although my focus started to wain. First related event was when I went to get lunch, I spotted a cute little chick with a headband, went up to her in the 10 seconds I had to spare, told her I liked that headband, It looked really good on her. Nothing more, but I felt that that was something I wouldn't have done as of yesterday. I think the urgency is beginning to take it's toll. On Facebook I got a lady to come out to a party with me tonight who as of yesterday was giving me one word responses. She says she has a boyfriend now, so I joke about how "Just because there is a goalie doesn't mean you can't score", then proceed to tell her to bring her hottest friends for me to hit on. I might have underestimated my sex drive. The next few days are going to get interesting.

Not going to the gym, but the song f the day is inspired by the lady who told me she was sorry she has a boyfriend now because she knows I love her and shit. This song was my response on Facebook.+ Show Spoiler [Music Video] +



Post-work: The Party, and clothes shopping
After everything is said and done on this night, I can say that I can see how this will be challenging. Nothing impossible, however challenging it will definitely be.

The night starts out with me going out with my family to go clothes shopping. My step-brothers birthday is today and I go out to eat and teach him a new rubber band trick. By the time I get home it is 9:30 so I quickly shower and go out to my friends. To be honest I wasn't expecting anything, however I went because I felt like I owed it to him to visit him for a change, and I wanted to put myself in the position where this experiment would be hardest for me. Sacrificing a night of opportunity sounded like a good plan. The night itself was hilarious. I was comfortable making more sexual jokes, and being more sexually honest, because nobody there was single. Utmost freedom was mine, however the down side was there were some very sexual youtube videos going on. It almost felt like cheating.

After this party I go to my local bar, to notice a band playing. I new business i started up tries to promote unsigned artists, so this becomes my conversation starter. Feeling a little out of place I walk around eventually settling in on a pair of arab guys, who instruct me that there is a group of 3 hot ladies inside. Because I was talking big up's on my game, I decide I can't back down now. I walk up to the ladies and start a conversation. What I can only assume to be one of their dads, who latter I find out was just a raging old man tries to fight me over these chicks. I walk away even after two of the ladies told me that their friend was single and said we both had glasses.

Lessons from the night:
1. Not being surrounded by sex makes approaching girls easier, especially when you have a non-direct opening.
2. Being more desperate for sex pushes you to more bravery (in the form of talking to random strangers both guys and girls).
3. Not seeing so much sex and focusing on the end goal ultimately allows you be escalate the conversation sexually earlier, because you naturally want it.
4. Social settings are exactly how you perceive them. (The old man might have actually been fucking with me, however my lack of experience in that area make me uncomfortable, something I haven't felt before during the night.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 4] +

Almost broke twice now, went to a house party the two nights ago and could have hooked up with 3 different chicks. Passed because I am still in the mode where my body thinks fapping is still the backup plan. Was the life of the party and met everyone, the not jerking off really makes you go out and talk to people. I also had to read a few articles in order to motivate myself not to crack. The past two days I had no motivation to write. After reading I heard that around wednesday/thursday my testosterone levels are going to heavily spike, so I will use that day for hitting the gym, and going out. Immediately after thinking of going out on a wednesday, I thought of a local club I haven't been too in a long time that has college night on wednesdays. Now I am also thinking about how my buddy and I got a hotel room to bring chicks back to last time.

Overall I care much less about my conversations with females, I feel annoyed by them if we continue small talk for long periods of time. Would rather cut my losses and move on.

Overall I am questioning if this really is an important move to not masturbate, but my curiosity and stubbornness are holding strong. Also I am answerable to this blog and motbob, after he graciously advised me on how to not make this blog not get auto-closed.

This morning was the first morning where I was tired when I woke up. The other morning I was full of energy, this quite possibly could be because I was not wanting to go to work today and go out instead. Also I am getting agitated that no bars are open tonight. I actually went and got coffee on the way home tonight just to see if there were hot chicks there. I might go for a shirtless run in front of the school later.

My horny-scale on day 2 was probably 8/10 for a good 3 hours. I feel like today it is a 4/10. Not sure, it ail be interesting to see my outlook around day 7.

No motivation song today, just twerk music. Actually no tweak music. Fresh unsigned electric.+ Show Spoiler +



After previewing my blog on teamliquid for the first time I decided to make some changes. Also I feel like I was a slightly different person writing the introduction. Proud to say the overcome bracelet has yet to leave my wrist. Also a weird thing is how much more time I put into this blog then normal. I looked up the BBcode and experimented in order to make this blog look more presentable and easier to read.


+ Show Spoiler [Day 5] +

I wasn't going to write anything today, but I felt an urge to, and here I am. Nothing has happened to far today, however I feel an itch building up inside. I was expecting to stay in tonight, maybe grab a beer with a friend and play some pool, however all of a sudden I really just want to go to a local bar where there is alot of hot chicks. I don't even want to drink, I just want to go pick up on chicks.

Also read this article:
http://themodernsavage.com/2011/02/28/porn-addiction-and-the-fall-of-men/

Interestingly enough, I am feeling less needy as well. The less neediness is coming along with confidence and a bitter honesty to myself. I am able to say borderline asshole things without having to feel bad about saying them. These comments are just internal monologues, and I am not actually telling people rude things. Very interesting situation today. I feel less want to talk to chicks who I have been talking too as friends. Crystal clear focus. I can even read articles now without zoning out.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 7] +

I had a reset on day 6, so I am now at day 1. To be honest, I was already in the motions, but porn was not the same to me. Almost did not enjoy it.

Other then that there is not much information to add. Life is normal, and I am feeling at peace with my decision. My next goal is to make it further. I have not set a day, just.. further.

The only thing of notice is the gym today. Went with a personal trainer friend of mine, and I took off alot of weight from what I normally do, and got an insane burn. We did negatives on the last set, I wish I was listening to this audio while I was doing it, I feel next time I can push further. + Show Spoiler [Video/Audio] +
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Also pulled up some motivation pictures as a refresh to an old blog of mine.
+ Show Spoiler [Motivational Pictures] +

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This is the last picture that doesn't link well - http://www.motivationblog.org/arnold-schwarzenegger-motivational-quotes/#.UikM8WSc5fE




More Coming soon, I'll post a comment in the thread when new content is released.

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Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44329 Posts
September 03 2013 01:02 GMT
#2
Starting Friday, Aug 30 1:57am


Read as: I just finished a marathon of fapping, so much so that I should be fine for the next week until my blog disappears from the sidebar.

But in all seriousness, good luck. If you were a TL+ member, I'd be linking you to the thread full of hot/ cute girls we have going on in there. But you're not, so you luck out.

+ Show Spoiler +
It's totally worth the subscription.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
September 03 2013 01:12 GMT
#3
Good luck, I only stopped fapping to impregnate, otherwise once in the morning and once at night!

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
September 03 2013 01:21 GMT
#4
On September 03 2013 10:12 Burrfoot wrote:
Good luck, I only stopped fapping to impregnate, otherwise once in the morning and once at night!

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I was like that as well, I was unhappy with certain parts of my life, so I am trying to see if this changes things. So far so good. Thanks for the luck


On September 03 2013 10:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
Starting Friday, Aug 30 1:57am


Read as: I just finished a marathon of fapping, so much so that I should be fine for the next week until my blog disappears from the sidebar.

But in all seriousness, good luck. If you were a TL+ member, I'd be linking you to the thread full of hot/ cute girls we have going on in there. But you're not, so you luck out.

+ Show Spoiler +
It's totally worth the subscription.


It was 10pm at night, I think I fucked up the date function with my military time. You can go ahead and PM random links, I will look, but I am in a total zen state atm. I am liking the results so far, I am thinking between week 1 and 2 is going to be where the hardest time I am going to have is going to be. Thank you for the good luck. TL+ is like the illumiati isn't it?
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44329 Posts
September 03 2013 01:23 GMT
#5
Well we are quite enlightened And good luck The time change doesn't really matter ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
September 03 2013 01:46 GMT
#6
avoid any suggestive pictures.

These are all around us. Somehow I doubt you can honestly walk around town without seeing some suggestive pictures.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
September 03 2013 01:47 GMT
#7
On a side note: within the last week I started going to the gym with my friend, and upped my bench from 135lbs to 250lbs, and my squats from 225lbs to 500lbs.


You made those gains.. in a week? Explain..
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
September 03 2013 01:57 GMT
#8
On a side note: within the last week I started going to the gym with my friend, and upped my bench from 135lbs to 250lbs, and my squats from 225lbs to 500lbs. I am 6'2", 170lbs for reference. I am going to track my workout growth in this thread as well.


This, among other glaring testimonies, leads me to believe you're a compulsive liar.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 01:57:42
September 03 2013 01:57 GMT
#9
On a side note: within the last week I started going to the gym with my friend, and upped my bench from 135lbs to 250lbs, and my squats from 225lbs to 500lbs.


As a personal trainer and former BB.com Miscer, I can 100% guarantee that this is a total lie. The internet does funny things to a man's strength I've found.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
September 03 2013 02:05 GMT
#10
I genuinely wonder how much of your change was caused by the placebo effect.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 03 2013 02:24 GMT
#11
I can't imagine that 4 days without fapping can cause such a change... seems a bit off.
Same with the weight-lifting example. a 100% increase in weight? To 500lb squats? when you're 170? Mmhmm.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
September 03 2013 02:45 GMT
#12
On September 03 2013 10:57 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On a side note: within the last week I started going to the gym with my friend, and upped my bench from 135lbs to 250lbs, and my squats from 225lbs to 500lbs.


As a personal trainer and former BB.com Miscer, I can 100% guarantee that this is a total lie. The internet does funny things to a man's strength I've found.


The internet warps any measurement relating to a person. Usually increasing error resulting in an erroneous total, with the exception of weight which can go either up or down depending on the person and circumstances.

Also, if fapping effects your ability to interact with women, or makes you uninterested... I have a feeling the problem you face is much deeper rooted than you may believe. You are not getting the same thing all by yourself than you would be if you were with a woman. (And if in reality you feel it is... then something is seriously wrong.)

Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
September 03 2013 04:23 GMT
#13
On September 03 2013 10:12 Burrfoot wrote:
Good luck, I only stopped fapping to impregnate, otherwise once in the morning and once at night!

[image loading]

I'm pretty sure that that's a myth. I think I read that it's actually better to fap when you're trying to impregnate, as it keeps your sperm fresh.
''Three bottles of Monster in a day; I'm pumped as fuck." -Stephano
Gendo
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom216 Posts
September 03 2013 05:13 GMT
#14
Well, that's honest....if you think is at a level that is an addiction then yes, probably that affects you in many ways, GL!
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
September 03 2013 05:19 GMT
#15
No fapping and no edging? Wtf is edging?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 05:24:44
September 03 2013 05:19 GMT
#16
I like how you instantly increased your strength from 135 lbs to 250 lbs in one week.

Also, I keep reading your name, and thinking its pronunciation is "Jizzle".

I also like how you entered in 4 days worth of journaling without editing the original post.

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"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 05:49:50
September 03 2013 05:44 GMT
#17
RESPONSE TO GYM DISCUSSION

For all the people questioning my gym results, I use a leg press machine for squats, and I used 2 45's on each side for 3 sets of 10 reps each. For bench I used a standard bench with a 45 on each side and 10's-25's on each side extra if i felt good. Again 3 sets of 10 reps each. Each exercise was relatively challenging, but I realized I wasn't pushing myself. These gym gains are from before my no fap decision.

I started going with my buddy who is an ex-football player. We also started talking pre-workout. On the same leg press machine I went from 3 45's, to 4 45's to 5 45's on each side on the 5 45's (which is 450lbs before the bar, I am using a 45lb bar). My reps on that final set were 6. So my gains on squats were four parts; first I did less reps, second pre-workout, third having a huge dude screaming in your ear, and four I had my hands pushing down on my hips.

The bench was similar, my buddy pushed me on more weight and we moved from a standard bench to the one where the bar is held on a rail (aka you don't have to balance the weight). I dropped my reps, and my buddy spotted me.

It definitely was not a huge deal to pull off, and it has nothing to do with not fapping, rather it allowed me to see that I am capable of more then I believe I am. Of course I got DOMS after, and could not sit down or fully extend my elbows for a good week after without pain when I made the gains.

I was planning on going to the gym again tomorrow, but I am going to hold off until thursday when this no-fap thing is supposed to double my testosterone levels. Combined with preworkout, I want to see how much damage I can do at the gym, which will coincide with my follow up on my night 0 post. The results are not that impressive, anybody could do it with the right tools.

RESPONSE TO 3FFA
+ Show Spoiler [Show Original Quote] +

On September 03 2013 10:46 3FFA wrote:
Show nested quote +
avoid any suggestive pictures.

These are all around us. Somehow I doubt you can honestly walk around town without seeing some suggestive pictures.



Also to 3FFA, I am lax on that rule. I don't actively avoid it atm, but I do not seek it either. If i see a bikini pic of a hot chick on facebook I scroll over it and glance, but then move on as an example. I live in L.A where there is alot of suggestive advertising. My goal in this rule was to go to the extreme at the start (in accordance with my cold-turkey approach), and to make the whole quitting thing easier on me by reminding of fapping less.

RESPONSE TO ENTIRETY AND VUIT
+ Show Spoiler [Show Original Quotes] +

On September 03 2013 11:05 Entirety wrote:
I genuinely wonder how much of your change was caused by the placebo effect.

On September 03 2013 11:24 vult wrote:
I can't imagine that 4 days without fapping can cause such a change... seems a bit off.
Same with the weight-lifting example. a 100% increase in weight? To 500lb squats? when you're 170? Mmhmm.



To Entirety and vuit, as I said for the first few days I believe that everything I am feeling is pure placebo. The initial rush of doing something new is prolly what is going on in my mind. I expect to be able to fully judge the difference in one month, however from reading online, there will be a change in my experience around day 7 when my testosterone spikes. I can tell you that there is a huge difference in my ability to wake up in a good mood in the morning. I attribute this to no midnight fap, as well as going to bed earlier, which might be a side effect. Also I feel a bit more attentive, focused, and thorough in my work (I consider this blog work; I am considering alot of stuff work now).

RESPONSE TO FELISCONCOLORI
+ Show Spoiler [Show Original Quote] +

On September 03 2013 11:45 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:57 farvacola wrote:
On a side note: within the last week I started going to the gym with my friend, and upped my bench from 135lbs to 250lbs, and my squats from 225lbs to 500lbs.


As a personal trainer and former BB.com Miscer, I can 100% guarantee that this is a total lie. The internet does funny things to a man's strength I've found.


The internet warps any measurement relating to a person. Usually increasing error resulting in an erroneous total, with the exception of weight which can go either up or down depending on the person and circumstances.

Also, if fapping effects your ability to interact with women, or makes you uninterested... I have a feeling the problem you face is much deeper rooted than you may believe. You are not getting the same thing all by yourself than you would be if you were with a woman. (And if in reality you feel it is... then something is seriously wrong.)



To felisconcolori, I do not have one of the personalities that would rather stay in and not do anything while fapping away all day.
+ Show Spoiler [Long story about my personality] +

I don't want you to think I am a anti-social person. I also don't want you to think I am a sexist. I live with a mom and a sister who have always been caring to me. I am known by my group of friends as the life of the party, the guy who always wants to do stuff, and the crazy friend.

I fall in love with every girl I meet. My fapping habit suppressed my urge to bed these woman, which opened the door to focus on a womans personality. Looking for a long term partner this development is great, however I felt that I friendzoned alot of girls that otherwise I could have had great relationships with. By friendzoning a chick, I mean that I would be in situations where the lady would make it clear to me she wanted to get intimate, however I would be too nervous or aloof to make a move, because I genuinely like the girl and felt that if we went down that path and something went wrong the conversations would stop. I would say the only flaw in my personality is that I was too focused maintaining what was good to take a risk on a relationship that could be great. In short I would take the sexual aspect out of the equation and focus on bonding with woman.

Re-reading your post, and then my answer I think I might have went on a tangent. If you are thinking I have a problem with intimacy you might be on to something. That is something for me to think about on the side. This no fap is designed to work on a couple of the things in my life that I feel could be better. So if i hit the nail in the head about what you think the deep seated problem might be, I could see this project as being a way to force me into these situations I might not be comfortable with. Could be a rehap of sorts.

RESPONSE TO MICHAEL DONOVAN
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On September 03 2013 14:19 MichaelDonovan wrote:
No fapping and no edging? Wtf is edging?


I had to look up edging as well. Edging is fapping, but you stop before you climax. Ran across it on forum post on the topic while researching. It is a lookhole people will use, which I don't get because if your looking for loopholes your heart is not in it in the first place.

RESPONSE TO NINAZERG
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On September 03 2013 14:19 ninazerg wrote:
I like how you instantly increased your strength from 135 lbs to 250 lbs in one week.

Also, I keep reading your name, and thinking its pronunciation is "Jizzle".

I also like how you entered in 4 days worth of journaling without editing the original post.

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I call it "Jizz all" normally, but the original idea stemmed from my name starting with a J, so it was "J is all" with no spaces basically just telling people that they only had to call me by J instead of my full name to make it easier on them. I wanted to put the first few days up during my first post so that there was something to read and discuss, I have a PM discussion with motbob from one of the first night with the up to date blog included if you would like evidense (not really sure how that is important tho).
Edit: almost forgot thanks for the tits Ninazerg, and thank you Gendo for the Goodluck
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
September 03 2013 06:32 GMT
#18
On September 03 2013 09:59 Jisall wrote:
I am putting on a "Overcome" plastic wristband to remind myself of this decision

This didn't stand out to anyone else? Really?
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September 03 2013 06:36 GMT
#19
Lots of negativity on someone trying to make a positive change......

hmmmm
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 07:01:32
September 03 2013 06:47 GMT
#20
there will be a change in my experience around day 7 when my testosterone spikes


Hmm. When I've done research of a similar nature in the past, I found that apparently regular ejaculation can increase your testosterone levels. Not the other way round. For example, fapping straight after workout could actually be benifical for your recovery, as your body needs to increase its testosterone levels to replace the depleted semen. Thoughts? I guess I'll look into it some more.

By the way, I also tried what you're doing when I was younger. I remember reading on some PUA shit that not fapping would increase your desire to make friendly with the ladies and whatever else. Can't say that it worked for me. Like the other dude said "I have a feeling the problem you face is much deeper rooted than you may believe". Any results you see are most likely a placebo.

Edit: Right nevermind anything I said. Futher research suggests that the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone levels is almost non-existent, except for the one day spike on the 7th day as you mentioned.
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