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United States5491 Posts
May 10 2013 21:41 GMT
#1
      Hey TL, just a quick blog because I've spent more than 20 hours this week in IB exams. I just wanted to say that I've finally graduated highschool and everything is awesome. I also wanted to say that my college choices have changed. I found out that I can't defer this year and go to U of Miami in the spring. Because of that, and the fact I got a lot of money to Rhodes, I'm going to go to Rhodes for my first semester then choose. I was basically told by a teacher at Rhodes that the teaching staff at Miami is much better, and he told me that he could see me at Miami, and not Rhodes. By the same token, I don't get any money there, and the drug culture there scares me. I don't mean that people doing drugs scares me, but rather being forced to do so freaks me out, because that isn't who I am as a person. Drugs aren't my style, never have been.

      On another note, I got a bunch of books today, rented Journey to the End of the Night by Celine and L'etranger by Camus. Funny story, the lady at the library near me couldn't pronounce Camus, so she said CamUS instead of Camoo, and I was like... fuck, they probably don't have the book. Funny story, they didn't. I went to the main library, and one of the ladies there didn't know the difference between fiction and non-fiction >.>; how do you work at a library and not know that? I digress though, I bought a bunch of poetry books and some classics. I'll finish those until I get some more later. I also accidentally bought Candide by Voltaire in French instead of English too, which was interesting.

      Finally, I was thinking about going to Culinary school in between college and grad school. I was also thinking about seeing if there was any way I could attend Patisserie school while I'm in college. Any thoughts TL? I've always been passionate about cooking, and it's one of the things I do best. I also need some advice on Law School vs. Medical School. I can do either, luckily the requirements for med school are the sciences I'm good at, and the requirements for Law school are much more lenient. I want to know what you all think on this.

Summer has started. That is no country for old men.


Thanks, TL. This is the next step in my life, Highschool to College.

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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 10 2013 21:57 GMT
#2
"Camoo"...
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 10 2013 22:25 GMT
#3
T.T

My summer doesn't start for another month
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 10 2013 22:29 GMT
#4
I'm a bit confused how you can "go to Rhodes ... and then choose," unless you mean you will go to Rhodes, and then reapply to U Miami as a transfer student.

If you don't want to do drugs, then don't do drugs. U Miami is a big school. I guarantee you there are many people there who don't do drugs.

Culinary school between college and grad school? Sure. Patisserie school while you're in college? I'm sure it can be managed if it's not too much of a time sink, so you should look at the programs in the area and see if they fit your schedule. I don't think you should try to attend both your first semester (even year) of college though, since you'll be transitioning. Maybe see if the college has a club on campus devoted to cooking/baking?

Law school vs. med school ... first of all, why either of those?
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 10 2013 23:10 GMT
#5
On May 11 2013 07:29 babylon wrote:
I'm a bit confused how you can "go to Rhodes ... and then choose," unless you mean you will go to Rhodes, and then reapply to U Miami as a transfer student.

If you don't want to do drugs, then don't do drugs. U Miami is a big school. I guarantee you there are many people there who don't do drugs.

Culinary school between college and grad school? Sure. Patisserie school while you're in college? I'm sure it can be managed if it's not too much of a time sink, so you should look at the programs in the area and see if they fit your schedule. I don't think you should try to attend both your first semester (even year) of college though, since you'll be transitioning. Maybe see if the college has a club on campus devoted to cooking/baking?

Law school vs. med school ... first of all, why either of those?

To answer your questions: 1. basically Miami accepted me as a Spring semester student; I'm one they'd like to have, but don't have room for in the fall, they need to wait for some kids to flunk out after partying too hard in the first semester. 2. The issue is drug culture vs people just doing drugs; if I'm at a drug culture school I'll be expected to do drugs, then again I feel like I can pave my own path whether or not this is the case, so I might be making a bigger deal of it than need be. 3. Culinary school is something I love, and I agree I shouldn't do it when I'm transitioning, I feel like a good idea would be to go to a foreign country and do culinary school there after I'm fluent in the language I.E. Spain. 4. Law school has always been a thing for me since I do a lot of speech and debate, I've always been good at that sort of thing, that and I enjoy morals, ethics and philosophy; med school because I've always enjoyed neuroscience and the cognitive sciences. Generally I'd have to start studying for one, though if I had my druthers I'd be a chef by profession and make my money through investment, unfortunately I need money to do that and chef doesn't make money like that, unless I'm one of the best of course . Its the path that I've been told I should follow and I've never questioned it too hard.
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 11 2013 00:44 GMT
#6
I think you're massively blowing the 'drug culture' thing out of proportion.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
May 11 2013 00:49 GMT
#7
Nah man, you don't have to take drugs at all, trust me. I have a whole circle of friends who smoke weed and a bunch who go get so wasted they practically need a pump and they don't give a flying fuck that I don't do that sort of shit.

If your friends can't respect your choices then they're not really friends, lol.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
May 11 2013 01:45 GMT
#8
UMiami is a reasonably large school. If drug use terrifies you that much, just live in a substance-free dorm. That being said, everyone I've ever met who smokes and drinks is 100% respectful of my choice to abstain, so the whole thing probably won't be an issue.
''Three bottles of Monster in a day; I'm pumped as fuck." -Stephano
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 11 2013 02:09 GMT
#9
On May 11 2013 10:45 Meadowlark wrote:
UMiami is a reasonably large school. If drug use terrifies you that much, just live in a substance-free dorm. That being said, everyone I've ever met who smokes and drinks is 100% respectful of my choice to abstain, so the whole thing probably won't be an issue.

This.
College is a very different experience from high school, and for the most part 'peer pressure' ceases to be an issue as people tend to respect others' boundaries and whatnot.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 11 2013 03:26 GMT
#10
On May 11 2013 11:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 10:45 Meadowlark wrote:
UMiami is a reasonably large school. If drug use terrifies you that much, just live in a substance-free dorm. That being said, everyone I've ever met who smokes and drinks is 100% respectful of my choice to abstain, so the whole thing probably won't be an issue.

This.
College is a very different experience from high school, and for the most part 'peer pressure' ceases to be an issue as people tend to respect others' boundaries and whatnot.

It's less the terrifying part as more of being ostracized for not using it, like I have been in highschool to some extent. Not being invited to parties because I don't really drink a huge amount or drop acid, etc. really fucked how social I was; then again, I probably wouldn't fit in with that crowd anyways. I guess I'm used to the highschool style of ostracizing rather than the college style of not giving a fuck.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 11 2013 03:35 GMT
#11
You're not going to be ostracized for not using drugs. It is so easy to avoid people on a college campus. If you don't want to see someone, you won't see them. (Unless you are in the same class as them, but then, it's easy to limit interactions.)

Also, accepting a place at one college often requires you to forfeit your spot at all other colleges to which you've been accepted. I highly recommend you look over U Miami's and Rhodes's policies on this matter (or even better, talk to admissions counselors at the colleges in question), as it could otherwise get you kicked out of both places.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 11 2013 03:44 GMT
#12
On May 11 2013 12:35 babylon wrote:
Also, accepting a place at one college often requires you to forfeit your spot at all other colleges to which you've been accepted. I highly recommend you look over U Miami's and Rhodes's policies on this matter (or even better, talk to admissions counselors at the colleges in question), as it could otherwise get you kicked out of both places.

What I did was what I was told to do, though I will check on it just in case. I didn't enroll in both, I put the down-payment to save my spot at both, but I am enrolled at Rhodes. I'm going to check, but my college counselor hasn't seemed to have any issues with it so far. Also, I'm enrolled as a philosophy major, I'll probably write a blog simply on that later for advice or something similar, but I know NoNy was one, though at my college I mostly see pre-med kids, is that normal to not have a lot of humanities kids?
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 03:53:08
May 11 2013 03:51 GMT
#13
It depends on the college. Some colleges have a more preprofessional atmosphere (lots of premeds, prelaws, business majors, engineers, etc.), while others cater more towards humanities-minded folks.

Responding to your other post: Just because you're good at speech and debate and you enjoy morals, ethics, and philosophy does not mean you're well-suited for law school. (Some people would say that people interested in "morals, ethics, and philosophy" shouldn't go to law school, heh ...) Just because you have always enjoyed neuroscience and the cognitive sciences (at the high school level) does not mean you're well-suited for med school.

If you are one of those people who can do well in any subject so long as you apply enough effort (e.g. you're one of those people who don't have to be interested in a subject to do well in it), then sitting down and saying, "I'm going to law/med school!" is, I think, less of a risk.* Otherwise, you're running the risk of trying to jam a square peg into a round hole, and in putting so much effort into such a pointless endeavor, you end up passing up other, better paths and opportunities in life. (I mean no offense by this, but you don't seem much like the first type of person I'm talking about.)

* Yes, there's a risk to these two routes, no matter how much people seem to equate them with financial security. Unless your application is superb, you are not going to get scholarships, and you will have to take out boatloads of loans, which is probably not worth it unless you go to the absolute best schools. I am more familiar with the law school situation, so I'll just say that one of my friends pretty much had a clean sweep of all the top law schools this year. She got into Harvard, Yale, Chicago, New York, and probably loads of other places I do not know. $0 in financial assistance.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 11 2013 04:17 GMT
#14
On May 11 2013 12:51 babylon wrote:
It depends on the college. Some colleges have a more preprofessional atmosphere (lots of premeds, prelaws, business majors, engineers, etc.), while others cater more towards humanities-minded folks.

Responding to your other post: Just because you're good at speech and debate and you enjoy morals, ethics, and philosophy does not mean you're well-suited for law school. (Some people would say that people interested in "morals, ethics, and philosophy" shouldn't go to law school, heh ...) Just because you have always enjoyed neuroscience and the cognitive sciences (at the high school level) does not mean you're well-suited for med school.

If you are one of those people who can do well in any subject so long as you apply enough effort (e.g. you're one of those people who don't have to be interested in a subject to do well in it), then sitting down and saying, "I'm going to law/med school!" is, I think, less of a risk.* Otherwise, you're running the risk of trying to jam a square peg into a round hole, and in putting so much effort into such a pointless endeavor, you end up passing up other, better paths and opportunities in life. (I mean no offense by this, but you don't seem much like the first type of person I'm talking about.)

* Yes, there's a risk to these two routes, no matter how much people seem to equate them with financial security. Unless your application is superb, you are not going to get scholarships, and you will have to take out boatloads of loans, which is probably not worth it unless you go to the absolute best schools. I am more familiar with the law school situation, so I'll just say that one of my friends pretty much had a clean sweep of all the top law schools this year. She got into Harvard, Yale, Chicago, New York, and probably loads of other places I do not know. $0 in financial assistance.

Yeah, I guess I'm one of those kids, so long as I don't have to do anything past Calc in math, I can pretty much do well at science and humanities. Also my grandfather, who was an American consulate to West Germany after WWII and a prominent lawyer where I live, told my father to never become a lawyer for the reasons you stated. Generally I'm afraid of the square peg round hole conundrum. I mostly just want to feel fulfilled and happy, ya know. I can do whatever I want to, I can apply myself and I have the motivation to, of course if I like the subject, the motivation part is so much easier. As much as I bitch and moan on TL about grades and stuff, I'm smart enough to do those things; the only issue I've ever had, which pretty much fucked me throughout highschool, is horrid test anxiety (I don't mean like, oh gosh test make me sweat, I mean like completely blanking and just staring at paper after studying due to fear of failure. Same thing happened to me on the SAT, ACT and didn't happen on the SAT II for history because I had confidence in my work.). I self-deprecate a lot on TL.
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
May 11 2013 04:32 GMT
#15
On May 11 2013 12:26 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 11:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 11 2013 10:45 Meadowlark wrote:
UMiami is a reasonably large school. If drug use terrifies you that much, just live in a substance-free dorm. That being said, everyone I've ever met who smokes and drinks is 100% respectful of my choice to abstain, so the whole thing probably won't be an issue.

This.
College is a very different experience from high school, and for the most part 'peer pressure' ceases to be an issue as people tend to respect others' boundaries and whatnot.

It's less the terrifying part as more of being ostracized for not using it, like I have been in highschool to some extent. Not being invited to parties because I don't really drink a huge amount or drop acid, etc. really fucked how social I was; then again, I probably wouldn't fit in with that crowd anyways. I guess I'm used to the highschool style of ostracizing rather than the college style of not giving a fuck.


Whether or not you use a substance has no impact on whether you get invited to parties or not, lol. It's a major part of the party, not a condition of getting in.

College style isn't "not giving a fuck," it's called maturity. So yeah, actually (lol), it is called "not giving a fuck." But in a positive way. Anyone who tries to get you to do something you don't want to do is called a dick, and you can give him the finger (a mental one will do, too). Like I said before, I personally have a large circle of friends who do all sorts of shit and none of them give a shit about whether or not I choose to use substances. Don't let substance usage be a condition of friendship, either - that's just silly.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 11 2013 16:52 GMT
#16
On May 11 2013 13:32 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 12:26 docvoc wrote:
On May 11 2013 11:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 11 2013 10:45 Meadowlark wrote:
UMiami is a reasonably large school. If drug use terrifies you that much, just live in a substance-free dorm. That being said, everyone I've ever met who smokes and drinks is 100% respectful of my choice to abstain, so the whole thing probably won't be an issue.

This.
College is a very different experience from high school, and for the most part 'peer pressure' ceases to be an issue as people tend to respect others' boundaries and whatnot.

It's less the terrifying part as more of being ostracized for not using it, like I have been in highschool to some extent. Not being invited to parties because I don't really drink a huge amount or drop acid, etc. really fucked how social I was; then again, I probably wouldn't fit in with that crowd anyways. I guess I'm used to the highschool style of ostracizing rather than the college style of not giving a fuck.


Whether or not you use a substance has no impact on whether you get invited to parties or not, lol. It's a major part of the party, not a condition of getting in.

College style isn't "not giving a fuck," it's called maturity. So yeah, actually (lol), it is called "not giving a fuck." But in a positive way. Anyone who tries to get you to do something you don't want to do is called a dick, and you can give him the finger (a mental one will do, too). Like I said before, I personally have a large circle of friends who do all sorts of shit and none of them give a shit about whether or not I choose to use substances. Don't let substance usage be a condition of friendship, either - that's just silly.

yeah, I'm just generally ignorant about college life. While I kinda get academics because of college visits and such, college life is pretty foreign to me as a highschooler.
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3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
May 11 2013 17:24 GMT
#17
More like "camü", no? From what I understand, you didn't obtain The Stranger in the end? Be sure to read it later, it's quite interesting.

Have you considered studying abroad? Many countries in Europe have low or no tuition fees. No idea how they compare qualitatively.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 21:45:43
May 11 2013 21:45 GMT
#18
On May 12 2013 02:24 3772 wrote:
More like "camü", no? From what I understand, you didn't obtain The Stranger in the end? Be sure to read it later, it's quite interesting.

Have you considered studying abroad? Many countries in Europe have low or no tuition fees. No idea how they compare qualitatively.

I actually did in the end, I just had to go to a different library. The book is absolutely fantastic, one of the best I've ever read, I just can't put it down; though I understand that I'm not supposed to like the main character and that the main character is supposed to be an existentialist platform, I can't help but agree with him on many points. The one quote from the book that keeps ringing in my head is, "A man who lived only one day could easily live for a hundred years in prison." (page 79). I'm reading Journey to the end of the night after this, then some Sartre, then Malraux. I'm reading a lot of french stuff, but basically I'm reading Le Monde's top 100 books of the century + some assorted poetry.

EDIT: On the study abroad topic I plan to do that avidly, but from an American University, Rhodes and Miami both work well for that end.
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