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ARD now has at CDU/CSU now 3 seats from absolute majority.
FDP is out. out. out. I'll wake up tomorrow and have to check it again to make sure it's not a dream. AfD not in, even though there a lot of idiots in this party, I still believe euro-scepticism whould be in the parliament.
So CDU-SPD coalition most likely happening now. CDU surey not too happy about that, as this means that despite their huge win, they will still have fewer ministers than before.
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I wonder if all the hardcore FDP haters would be happier, if the CDU/CSU really gets the majority by themselves.
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So FDP is definitely out?
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On September 23 2013 04:11 UmberBane wrote:
So FDP is definitely out?
99.99 %
Edit: At least ARD seems to think so, as they uninvited them from the "Elefantenrunde" as they're under 5%.
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On September 23 2013 04:10 Mafe wrote:
ARD now has at CDU/CSU now 3 seats from absolute majority.
FDP is out. out. out. I'll wake up tomorrow and have to check it again to make sure it's not a dream. AfD not in, even though there a lot of idiots in this party, I still believe euro-scepticism whould be in the parliament.
So CDU-SPD coalition most likely happening now. CDU surey not too happy about that, as this means that despite their huge win, they will still have fewer ministers than before.
Is it certain that CDU won't have a majority on their own?
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On September 23 2013 04:09 quaZa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:56 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:44 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:38 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:23 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice  Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry  i don't like communism lol ^^ I am Socialist...Thats why i elected the Left. I believe you that you would like to be a socialist, but voting for the Left doesn't make you one. Chances are: - you haven't even read the party's agenda - you have no idea where a significant portion of the party's members stem from and how morally bankrupt they are - you're either incapable of contemplating over semi-complex systems or simply refuse to do so Overall, chances are that you wasted your vote on a party that neither represents your ideals, nor has any capability of implementing what you wished for even if they were elected into power. I did Read there Agenda and sorry but someoen from Bulgaria doesnt have the RIGHT to tell me what i have too vote and who not. U dont even KNOW German Partys do u? And i know they mostly ex SED Party Members They want too ban Temp-Work which is modern Slavery. They want a minium wage. They want that German Soldiers come home and dont particpiate in any Conflicts. i can go on...So dont Judge me. Just because my country on an online forum is listed as Bulgaria, doesn't mean I live there... So you know that they have ex-SED members and still vote for them? I guess corruption beyong belief, totalitarian opression, and sending people to gulages doesn't go against your moral principles... This is really sad... I agree that temp-work (I assume you mean "Zeitarbeit") is despicable and that German troops should not be involved in foreign conflicts on a large scale. However, the rest of their agenda is ridiculous. As already partly shown here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410943¤tpage=15#284Minimum-wage as proposed by them cannot work either. For some small insight you can look through this very thread. So u call me basicly Moraly broke? First off. They dotn send anyone too Gulags neither they do supress anyone get ur facts straight first.Secoundly,I could assume to that u are Morally broke since u clearly want Sanctions and Continue with Hartz4..I guess u German then. i tell u a something now i Know someoen who worked 35 Years by "Opel" un Bochum. As we all know they want to close this factory. hes 53 Years old now tell me how he is aible to find a Job with that Age and if u say "Yes they are plenty of Jobs" Yes they are but he has to Support hes Family with the Wage he gets so noe lets say he comes into Hartz4 and u know how the German Society act towards thoose People....So u will call him Lazy too? That hes money he gets goes only into Tobacco and Alcohol? Or even Sanction him since he refuses to work for a "Zeitarbeits" Company because of the Human contemptuous wages they pay. Sorry but ur Posts make me very Angry. If any Typos are in it and TL mods want too send me a warning AGAIN for this i kindly want too remind u that this is Kind of Racist. Thank you.
Alphabetization is not a form of racism.
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On September 23 2013 04:14 Melliflue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:10 Mafe wrote:
ARD now has at CDU/CSU now 3 seats from absolute majority.
FDP is out. out. out. I'll wake up tomorrow and have to check it again to make sure it's not a dream. AfD not in, even though there a lot of idiots in this party, I still believe euro-scepticism whould be in the parliament.
So CDU-SPD coalition most likely happening now. CDU surey not too happy about that, as this means that despite their huge win, they will still have fewer ministers than before. Is it certain that CDU won't have a majority on their own?
No, it's not. But it's very likely. If you want me to guess percentages, I would say it's 80+% for non-absolute-majority.
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if the Union will get like 302 seats and have majority, they will make a coaltion though, wont they?
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On September 23 2013 04:18 75 wrote:
if the Union will get like 302 seats and have majority, they will make a coaltion though, wont they?
There is no reason to make a coalition if you have the majority
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On September 23 2013 04:15 Poffel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:09 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:56 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:44 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:38 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:23 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry i don't like communism lol ^^ I am Socialist...Thats why i elected the Left. I believe you that you would like to be a socialist, but voting for the Left doesn't make you one. Chances are: - you haven't even read the party's agenda - you have no idea where a significant portion of the party's members stem from and how morally bankrupt they are - you're either incapable of contemplating over semi-complex systems or simply refuse to do so Overall, chances are that you wasted your vote on a party that neither represents your ideals, nor has any capability of implementing what you wished for even if they were elected into power. I did Read there Agenda and sorry but someoen from Bulgaria doesnt have the RIGHT to tell me what i have too vote and who not. U dont even KNOW German Partys do u? And i know they mostly ex SED Party Members They want too ban Temp-Work which is modern Slavery. They want a minium wage. They want that German Soldiers come home and dont particpiate in any Conflicts. i can go on...So dont Judge me. Just because my country on an online forum is listed as Bulgaria, doesn't mean I live there... So you know that they have ex-SED members and still vote for them? I guess corruption beyong belief, totalitarian opression, and sending people to gulages doesn't go against your moral principles... This is really sad... I agree that temp-work (I assume you mean "Zeitarbeit") is despicable and that German troops should not be involved in foreign conflicts on a large scale. However, the rest of their agenda is ridiculous. As already partly shown here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410943¤tpage=15#284Minimum-wage as proposed by them cannot work either. For some small insight you can look through this very thread. So u call me basicly Moraly broke? First off. They dotn send anyone too Gulags neither they do supress anyone get ur facts straight first.Secoundly,I could assume to that u are Morally broke since u clearly want Sanctions and Continue with Hartz4..I guess u German then. i tell u a something now i Know someoen who worked 35 Years by "Opel" un Bochum. As we all know they want to close this factory. hes 53 Years old now tell me how he is aible to find a Job with that Age and if u say "Yes they are plenty of Jobs" Yes they are but he has to Support hes Family with the Wage he gets so noe lets say he comes into Hartz4 and u know how the German Society act towards thoose People....So u will call him Lazy too? That hes money he gets goes only into Tobacco and Alcohol? Or even Sanction him since he refuses to work for a "Zeitarbeits" Company because of the Human contemptuous wages they pay. Sorry but ur Posts make me very Angry. If any Typos are in it and TL mods want too send me a warning AGAIN for this i kindly want too remind u that this is Kind of Racist. Thank you. Alphabetization is not a form of racism.
Lots of denglish in this thread but this was a gem. Maybe he just wants to present a compelling argument that we need higher taxes for investments in education?
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On September 23 2013 04:18 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:18 75 wrote:
if the Union will get like 302 seats and have majority, they will make a coaltion though, wont they? You didn't understood the system? There is no reason to make a coalition if you have the majority
ye, they need someone to blame.
first spd, then fdp,
the greens are next.
everyone who gets involved with Merkel is fucked.
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On September 23 2013 04:18 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:18 75 wrote:
if the Union will get like 302 seats and have majority, they will make a coaltion though, wont they? You didn't understood the system? There is no reason to make a coalition if you have the majority
Sure there is. Not everyone votes according to the party line 100% of the time. If you only have the majority by a few seats it is more than likely that a coalition will be formed.
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On September 23 2013 04:09 quaZa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:56 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:44 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:38 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:23 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry i don't like communism lol ^^ I am Socialist...Thats why i elected the Left. I believe you that you would like to be a socialist, but voting for the Left doesn't make you one. Chances are: - you haven't even read the party's agenda - you have no idea where a significant portion of the party's members stem from and how morally bankrupt they are - you're either incapable of contemplating over semi-complex systems or simply refuse to do so Overall, chances are that you wasted your vote on a party that neither represents your ideals, nor has any capability of implementing what you wished for even if they were elected into power. I did Read there Agenda and sorry but someoen from Bulgaria doesnt have the RIGHT to tell me what i have too vote and who not. U dont even KNOW German Partys do u? And i know they mostly ex SED Party Members They want too ban Temp-Work which is modern Slavery. They want a minium wage. They want that German Soldiers come home and dont particpiate in any Conflicts. i can go on...So dont Judge me. Just because my country on an online forum is listed as Bulgaria, doesn't mean I live there... So you know that they have ex-SED members and still vote for them? I guess corruption beyong belief, totalitarian opression, and sending people to gulages doesn't go against your moral principles... This is really sad... I agree that temp-work (I assume you mean "Zeitarbeit") is despicable and that German troops should not be involved in foreign conflicts on a large scale. However, the rest of their agenda is ridiculous. As already partly shown here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410943¤tpage=15#284Minimum-wage as proposed by them cannot work either. For some small insight you can look through this very thread. So u call me basicly Moraly broke? First off. They dotn send anyone too Gulags neither they do supress anyone get ur facts straight first.Secoundly,I could assume to that u are Morally broke since u clearly want Sanctions and Continue with Hartz4..I guess u German then. i tell u a something now i Know someoen who worked 35 Years by "Opel" un Bochum. As we all know they want to close this factory. hes 53 Years old now tell me how he is aible to find a Job with that Age and if u say "Yes they are plenty of Jobs" Yes they are but he has to Support hes Family with the Wage he gets so noe lets say he comes into Hartz4 and u know how the German Society act towards thoose People....So u will call him Lazy too? That hes money he gets goes only into Tobacco and Alcohol? Or even Sanction him since he refuses to work for a "Zeitarbeits" Company because of the Human contemptuous wages they pay. Sorry but ur Posts make me very Angry. If any Typos are in it and TL mods want too send me a warning AGAIN for this i kindly want too remind u that this is Kind of Racist. Thank you.
I do not think that you know how things worked in communist regimes. I also, do not think that you realize what atrocities the StaSi have commited under the SED.
As far as your acquaintance is concerned. It's sad that there are people with such fates. Do not fool yourself that the Left could change something about it, though.
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On September 23 2013 04:21 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:18 Yoshi- wrote:On September 23 2013 04:18 75 wrote:
if the Union will get like 302 seats and have majority, they will make a coaltion though, wont they? You didn't understood the system? There is no reason to make a coalition if you have the majority ye, they need someone to blame. first spd, then fdp, the greens are next. everyone who gets involved with Merkel is fucked.
hey you are just pulling a merkel, hahaha (blame, blame, blame)
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On September 23 2013 04:18 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:18 75 wrote:
if the Union will get like 302 seats and have majority, they will make a coaltion though, wont they? There is no reason to make a coalition if you have the majority
Wouldn't it be a pain in the ass though to work with such a tiny majority?
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Even though im happy CDU got so many votes, and im even happier Angela Merkel gonna keep her position, i think it wouldnt be too good if CDU could do it all by themselves. CDU/FDP together would be my "dream combination", but FDP is highly unlikly to make it. Its going to end up with CDU/SPD probably, which means there will probably a lot of blaming and no real progress...well, all in all to bad of an election for my taste, gotta see how it turns out when the final numbers are there.
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German Election ended well from my point of view. Only two numbers are alarming. AfD alomst made 5% and only 73% actually voted. That means we have 32% people in Germay that are against democracy and free vote. Thats sad...
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On September 23 2013 04:24 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:18 Yoshi- wrote:On September 23 2013 04:18 75 wrote:
if the Union will get like 302 seats and have majority, they will make a coaltion though, wont they? There is no reason to make a coalition if you have the majority Wouldn't it be a pain in the ass though to work with such a tiny majority?
na, would be fine
nobody in the cdu/csu has the courage to say anything against great broodmother Merkel and König Horst
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On September 23 2013 04:24 cutler wrote:
German Election ended well from my point of view. Only two numbers are alarming. AfD alomst made 5% and only 73% actually voted. That means we have 32% people in Germay that are against democracy and free vote. Thats sad...
Any quick comparisons to the previous elections?
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On September 23 2013 04:24 cutler wrote:
German Election ended well from my point of view. Only two numbers are alarming. AfD alomst made 5% and only 73% actually voted. That means we have 32% people in Germay that are against democracy and free vote. Thats sad...
i dont like AfD either, but saying thats against democracy is a little extrem for my taste...
agree with the rest though, so many people now voting - most of them will probably still complain how everything is bad and that the gouvernment sucks, even though they didnt even vote for another <.<
On September 23 2013 04:27 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:24 cutler wrote:
German Election ended well from my point of view. Only two numbers are alarming. AfD alomst made 5% and only 73% actually voted. That means we have 32% people in Germay that are against democracy and free vote. Thats sad...
Any quick comparisons to the previous elections?
Slightly more people voted, like 3 % or so
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