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On September 23 2013 03:35 Greenei wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:33 Yoshi- wrote:On September 23 2013 03:30 Greenei wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice  Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry  i don't like communism lol ^^ lol communism xD ^^^^^^^^ xDddd No german (relevant) party stands for communism and no, social equity is not communism. This is a horrible endresult, I am ashamed for my country. The only thing that is shameful is reading some people opinion, yours included. But guess you really shouldn't read political dicussions online, in those the vocal majority is rather stupid So you are telling me that I'm wrong? What exactly? Are there relevant communist parties in Germany or does social equity mean communism? Tell me
That this is a horrible end result and that one can actually be ashamed of it.
That is just as wrong as it can get, a horrible result would have been if either pirates/linke/afd/fpd would have gotten a relevant result.
But CDU/SPD is one of the best two best coalitions, the other being SPD/greens. Out of the possibles outcome this is easily the best/second best any who actually thinks otherwise is a fool.
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On September 23 2013 03:38 ggrrg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:23 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry i don't like communism lol ^^ I am Socialist...Thats why i elected the Left. I believe you that you would like to be a socialist, but voting for the Left doesn't make you one. Chances are: - you haven't even read the party's agenda - you have no idea where a significant portion of the party's members stem from and how morally bankrupt they are - you're either incapable of contemplating over semi-complex systems or simply refuse to do so Overall, chances are that you wasted your vote on a party that neither represents your ideals, nor has any capability of implementing what you wished for even if they were elected into power.
I did Read there Agenda and sorry but someoen from Bulgaria doesnt have the RIGHT to tell me what i have too vote and who not. U dont even KNOW German Partys do u? And i know they mostly ex SED Party Members They want too ban Temp-Work which is modern Slavery. They want a minium wage. They want that German Soldiers come home and dont particpiate in any Conflicts. i can go on...So dont Judge me.
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On September 23 2013 03:43 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:35 Greenei wrote:On September 23 2013 03:33 Yoshi- wrote:On September 23 2013 03:30 Greenei wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry i don't like communism lol ^^ lol communism xD ^^^^^^^^ xDddd No german (relevant) party stands for communism and no, social equity is not communism. This is a horrible endresult, I am ashamed for my country. The only thing that is shameful is reading some people opinion, yours included. But guess you really shouldn't read political dicussions online, in those the vocal majority is rather stupid So you are telling me that I'm wrong? What exactly? Are there relevant communist parties in Germany or does social equity mean communism? Tell me That this is a horrible end result and that one can actually be ashamed of it. That is just as wrong as it can get, a horrible result would have been if either pirates/linke/afd/fpd would have gotten a relevant result. But CDU/SPD is one of the best two best coalitions, the other being SPD/greens. Out of the possibles outcome this is easily the best/second best any who actually thinks otherwise is a fool.
rofl are you kidding?
you are such a lemming, open your eyes please.
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On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:On September 23 2013 02:52 Scorch wrote:
With the FDP, AfD and other parties failing to get into the Bundestag, a whopping 15% of votes basically go to waste. This means that the CDU's 42% may be enough to win an absolute majority in seats. I consider any one party government problematic for the democracy, and certainly one with only 42% of the popular vote. this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous.
It seems much, but compared to other European countries, the right wing populisitic parties don't have much ground here.
This picture from Wikipedia shows European national parliaments with representatives from right-wing populist parties in 2010. In dark brown, those in government.
![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Right-wing_populist_parties_in_European_national_parliaments.svg)
Compared to other nations it is not as bad in Germany.
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On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:On September 23 2013 02:52 Scorch wrote:
With the FDP, AfD and other parties failing to get into the Bundestag, a whopping 15% of votes basically go to waste. This means that the CDU's 42% may be enough to win an absolute majority in seats. I consider any one party government problematic for the democracy, and certainly one with only 42% of the popular vote. this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous.
lets make you even more nervous.
read the first part of this article
http://www.wsws.org/de/articles/2011/06/oest-j07.html
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Too bad the green made only 8% or so !
Angela will be the europe iron lady for a long time !!
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On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:On September 23 2013 02:52 Scorch wrote:
With the FDP, AfD and other parties failing to get into the Bundestag, a whopping 15% of votes basically go to waste. This means that the CDU's 42% may be enough to win an absolute majority in seats. I consider any one party government problematic for the democracy, and certainly one with only 42% of the popular vote. this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous.
Have you ever talked to the average German? There are a lot of stupid people in Germany that I'm not surprised that some, probably just a tiny fraction, of them are attracted to ring wing extremist opinion.
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On September 23 2013 03:47 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:
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this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous. lets make you even more nervous. read the first part of this article http://www.wsws.org/de/articles/2011/06/oest-j07.html
you do know most (at least 50%) of those voters are "protest wählers"?
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On September 23 2013 03:49 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:47 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
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yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence.
Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous. lets make you even more nervous. read the first part of this article http://www.wsws.org/de/articles/2011/06/oest-j07.html you do know most (at least 50%) of those voters are "protest wählers"?
i actually do.
but the first time i heard about this i was huuuuugly surprised.
im aware that this article doesnt give the reality.
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On September 23 2013 03:46 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:
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this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous. It seems much, but compared to other European countries, the right wing populisitic parties don't have much ground here. This picture from Wikipedia shows European national parliaments with representatives from right-wing populist parties in 2010. In dark brown, those in government. Compared to other nations it is not as bad in Germany.
Well luckily the right-wing partie(s) ( do the other ones will exist ? ) in Germany are total loons and/or completely incompetent and thats blatantly obvious to just about everyone ( save a few hundred thousand ) .
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Man, I hope the Union doesn't make the 304 seats. I have no need for a purely conservative government.
edit: Spiegel titles us the Merkel-Republic. O tempora, o mores!
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On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:On September 23 2013 02:52 Scorch wrote:
With the FDP, AfD and other parties failing to get into the Bundestag, a whopping 15% of votes basically go to waste. This means that the CDU's 42% may be enough to win an absolute majority in seats. I consider any one party government problematic for the democracy, and certainly one with only 42% of the popular vote. this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz?
How the hell is that depressing?
Look at ANY other european country, then be happy because they are kept so well in check in Germany.
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On September 23 2013 03:47 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:
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this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous. lets make you even more nervous. read the first part of this article http://www.wsws.org/de/articles/2011/06/oest-j07.html
Oh no not the Austrians again!
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On September 23 2013 03:44 quaZa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:38 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:23 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry i don't like communism lol ^^ I am Socialist...Thats why i elected the Left. I believe you that you would like to be a socialist, but voting for the Left doesn't make you one. Chances are: - you haven't even read the party's agenda - you have no idea where a significant portion of the party's members stem from and how morally bankrupt they are - you're either incapable of contemplating over semi-complex systems or simply refuse to do so Overall, chances are that you wasted your vote on a party that neither represents your ideals, nor has any capability of implementing what you wished for even if they were elected into power. I did Read there Agenda and sorry but someoen from Bulgaria doesnt have the RIGHT to tell me what i have too vote and who not. U dont even KNOW German Partys do u? And i know they mostly ex SED Party Members They want too ban Temp-Work which is modern Slavery. They want a minium wage. They want that German Soldiers come home and dont particpiate in any Conflicts. i can go on...So dont Judge me.
Just because my country on an online forum is listed as Bulgaria, doesn't mean I live there...
So you know that they have ex-SED members and still vote for them?
I guess corruption beyong belief, totalitarian opression, and sending people to gulages doesn't go against your moral principles... This is really sad...
I agree that temp-work (I assume you mean "Zeitarbeit") is despicable and that German troops should not be involved in foreign conflicts on a large scale.
However, the rest of their agenda is ridiculous. As already partly shown here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410943¤tpage=15#284
Minimum-wage as proposed by them cannot work either. For some small insight you can look through this very thread.
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On September 23 2013 03:46 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:
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this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous. It seems much, but compared to other European countries, the right wing populisitic parties don't have much ground here. This picture from Wikipedia shows European national parliaments with representatives from right-wing populist parties in 2010. In dark brown, those in government. + Show Spoiler +Compared to other nations it is not as bad in Germany.
That doesn't make me feel any better. I know every country has its extremists, and that they are more popular in other countries, but still, anything > 0% is more than I'd like.
On September 23 2013 03:48 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:42 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:32 75 wrote:On September 23 2013 03:31 Melliflue wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 smr wrote:On September 23 2013 03:16 Musicus wrote:On September 23 2013 03:07 s3rp wrote:On September 23 2013 03:05 Yuljan wrote:On September 23 2013 03:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:On September 23 2013 02:56 LaNague wrote:
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this system was developed for good reasons as other systems ended in disaster. yeah that system is important but when 15% are not represented in parliament then thats a bad consequence. Especially because its so close. I think 2% would be enough of a hurdle to keep the troubesome small parties from interrupting the Bundestag too much. But maybe its just because I actually want an actual opposition that does not consider Cuba a paradise on Earth. I think 2% gets awfully close to a number that would allow the NPD to enter and thats not a pleasant thought. Yeah, what's NPD's result today btw? Does someone know? Around 1.2% according to TAZ That is... depressing. Just wow what is depressing? so much? so few? that the source is from the taz? That it is so many. It must mean a few hundred thousand voted for them. That's a lot of people who make me kinda nervous. Have you ever talked to the average German? There are a lot of stupid people in Germany that I'm not surprised that some, probably just a tiny fraction, of them are attracted to ring wing extremist opinion.
Tbh most of the people I talk to now are a part of the university in some way. Sometimes I forget this is not an accurate representation of Germany as a whole.
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On September 23 2013 03:56 ggrrg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:44 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:38 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:23 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry i don't like communism lol ^^ I am Socialist...Thats why i elected the Left. I believe you that you would like to be a socialist, but voting for the Left doesn't make you one. Chances are: - you haven't even read the party's agenda - you have no idea where a significant portion of the party's members stem from and how morally bankrupt they are - you're either incapable of contemplating over semi-complex systems or simply refuse to do so Overall, chances are that you wasted your vote on a party that neither represents your ideals, nor has any capability of implementing what you wished for even if they were elected into power. I did Read there Agenda and sorry but someoen from Bulgaria doesnt have the RIGHT to tell me what i have too vote and who not. U dont even KNOW German Partys do u? And i know they mostly ex SED Party Members They want too ban Temp-Work which is modern Slavery. They want a minium wage. They want that German Soldiers come home and dont particpiate in any Conflicts. i can go on...So dont Judge me. Just because my country on an online forum is listed as Bulgaria, doesn't mean I live there...
Well, we are going by the assumption that you don't lie about that. I think one of the TL commandments is not to do that, too.
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On September 23 2013 03:56 ggrrg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 03:44 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:38 ggrrg wrote:On September 23 2013 03:23 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:22 Incognoto wrote:On September 23 2013 03:20 quaZa wrote:On September 23 2013 03:19 Incognoto wrote:So Germany is CDU only? No FPD? Somehow that sounds very nice Its a Nightmare. wait! my bad i meant that it was CDU only and no SPD fpd out is indeed a shame i think because i kind of like their views sorry i don't like communism lol ^^ I am Socialist...Thats why i elected the Left. I believe you that you would like to be a socialist, but voting for the Left doesn't make you one. Chances are: - you haven't even read the party's agenda - you have no idea where a significant portion of the party's members stem from and how morally bankrupt they are - you're either incapable of contemplating over semi-complex systems or simply refuse to do so Overall, chances are that you wasted your vote on a party that neither represents your ideals, nor has any capability of implementing what you wished for even if they were elected into power. I did Read there Agenda and sorry but someoen from Bulgaria doesnt have the RIGHT to tell me what i have too vote and who not. U dont even KNOW German Partys do u? And i know they mostly ex SED Party Members They want too ban Temp-Work which is modern Slavery. They want a minium wage. They want that German Soldiers come home and dont particpiate in any Conflicts. i can go on...So dont Judge me. Just because my country on an online forum is listed as Bulgaria, doesn't mean I live there... So you know that they have ex-SED members and still vote for them? I guess corruption beyong belief, totalitarian opression, and sending people to gulages doesn't go against your moral principles... This is really sad... I agree that temp-work (I assume you mean "Zeitarbeit") is despicable and that German troops should not be involved in foreign conflicts on a large scale. However, the rest of their agenda is ridiculous. As already partly shown here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410943¤tpage=15#284Minimum-wage as proposed by them cannot work either. For some small insight you can look through this very thread.
So u call me basicly Moraly broke? First off. They dotn send anyone too Gulags neither they do supress anyone get ur facts straight first.Secoundly,I could assume to that u are Morally broke since u clearly want Sanctions and Continue with Hartz4..I guess u German then. i tell u a something now i Know someoen who worked 35 Years by "Opel" un Bochum. As we all know they want to close this factory. hes 53 Years old now tell me how he is aible to find a Job with that Age and if u say "Yes they are plenty of Jobs" Yes they are but he has to Support hes Family with the Wage he gets so noe lets say he comes into Hartz4 and u know how the German Society act towards thoose People....So u will call him Lazy too? That hes money he gets goes only into Tobacco and Alcohol? Or even Sanction him since he refuses to work for a "Zeitarbeits" Company because of the Human contemptuous wages they pay. Sorry but ur Posts make me very Angry. If any Typos are in it and TL mods want too send me a warning AGAIN for this i kindly want too remind u that this is Kind of Racist. Thank you.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
that is all...
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