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On March 31 2013 05:07 Burrfoot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:46 babylon wrote:On March 30 2013 23:18 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:On March 30 2013 20:31 Burrfoot wrote:
Madison, no contest. Having had a weird ass interview with some medical software company there, the city is pretty nice. Haha Epic? Ya, weird company. The pay they offer is so ridiculous though My friend just turned down an offer @ Epic to go work elsewhere (-$15k but better career prep for her path and more prestige). I do agree they pay absurdly well though. Not to get too far off topic, but I wasn't a programmer but they wanted me to do programming or seomthing, so their offer to me was pretty terrible. Good for a new grad I guess, but I agree, that company doesn't have much upside for career options from what I saw. To the OP: don't listen to all the dreamers saying "do what you love man!". Do what makes money. Do what you love on the weekends. If those are really your only 4 options, have fun in Madison!
Do this, and enjoy two days of your week for the rest of your life. Great plan.
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I just wanted to drop in to say that no school is truly worth going 150-200k in debt. If you can't get grants or scholarships to expensive schools and have to handle them on pure loans, then I would highly recommend not doing so. I know multiple people who have graduated with 200k in debt and the reality it is that they have to pay $2000/mo in loans alone. If you don't end up getting a great job right away, then good luck getting your life going with debt like that.
Good luck with whatever you choose!
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On March 31 2013 05:15 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 05:07 Burrfoot wrote:On March 31 2013 03:46 babylon wrote:On March 30 2013 23:18 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:On March 30 2013 20:31 Burrfoot wrote:
Madison, no contest. Having had a weird ass interview with some medical software company there, the city is pretty nice. Haha Epic? Ya, weird company. The pay they offer is so ridiculous though My friend just turned down an offer @ Epic to go work elsewhere (-$15k but better career prep for her path and more prestige). I do agree they pay absurdly well though. Not to get too far off topic, but I wasn't a programmer but they wanted me to do programming or seomthing, so their offer to me was pretty terrible. Good for a new grad I guess, but I agree, that company doesn't have much upside for career options from what I saw. To the OP: don't listen to all the dreamers saying "do what you love man!". Do what makes money. Do what you love on the weekends. If those are really your only 4 options, have fun in Madison! Do this, and enjoy two days of your week for the rest of your life. Great plan.
better then being poor and on welfare and hating everyday of your life
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On March 31 2013 05:34 jamesr12 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 05:15 Stratos_speAr wrote:On March 31 2013 05:07 Burrfoot wrote:On March 31 2013 03:46 babylon wrote:On March 30 2013 23:18 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:On March 30 2013 20:31 Burrfoot wrote:
Madison, no contest. Having had a weird ass interview with some medical software company there, the city is pretty nice. Haha Epic? Ya, weird company. The pay they offer is so ridiculous though My friend just turned down an offer @ Epic to go work elsewhere (-$15k but better career prep for her path and more prestige). I do agree they pay absurdly well though. Not to get too far off topic, but I wasn't a programmer but they wanted me to do programming or seomthing, so their offer to me was pretty terrible. Good for a new grad I guess, but I agree, that company doesn't have much upside for career options from what I saw. To the OP: don't listen to all the dreamers saying "do what you love man!". Do what makes money. Do what you love on the weekends. If those are really your only 4 options, have fun in Madison! Do this, and enjoy two days of your week for the rest of your life. Great plan. better then being poor and on welfare and hating everyday of your life
As if that is the only other option.....lol
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On March 31 2013 05:18 Therapist. wrote:
I just wanted to drop in to say that no school is truly worth going 150-200k in debt. If you can't get grants or scholarships to expensive schools and have to handle them on pure loans, then I would highly recommend not doing so. I know multiple people who have graduated with 200k in debt and the reality it is that they have to pay $2000/mo in loans alone. If you don't end up getting a great job right away, then good luck getting your life going with debt like that.
Good luck with whatever you choose!
Who the fuck are these people and how are they so financially irresponsible?
I go to an expensive institution (~$50k a year) and I have a LOT of debt (more than the vast majority here) and I'm not even close to $100k. Any respectable school should be giving you enough need-based financial aid to not get even close to $100k in debt.
better then being poor and on welfare and hating everyday of your life
Well, if you're lazy and don't want to strive for happiness, then that might be the only other option...
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I think you need to broaden your horizons, the midwest can be ok I guess for some things (chicago's cool), but seriously, the coasts are where it's at (go west for nicer people, go east for meaner people)
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On March 31 2013 05:44 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 05:18 Therapist. wrote:
I just wanted to drop in to say that no school is truly worth going 150-200k in debt. If you can't get grants or scholarships to expensive schools and have to handle them on pure loans, then I would highly recommend not doing so. I know multiple people who have graduated with 200k in debt and the reality it is that they have to pay $2000/mo in loans alone. If you don't end up getting a great job right away, then good luck getting your life going with debt like that.
Good luck with whatever you choose! Who the fuck are these people and how are they so financially irresponsible? I go to an expensive institution (~$50k a year) and I have a LOT of debt (more than the vast majority here) and I'm not even close to $100k. Any respectable school should be giving you enough need-based financial aid to not get even close to $100k in debt.
Graduate/ medical/ other post-graduation continuations of school  But if you're only going four years and then stopping, I agree with you that you really shouldn't have over 100K in debt.
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On March 31 2013 07:53 CatNzHat wrote:
I think you need to broaden your horizons, the midwest can be ok I guess for some things (chicago's cool), but seriously, the coasts are where it's at (go west for nicer people, go east for meaner people)
I wouldn't recommend this at all. The school is far more important than the location, and some of these schools around here are pretty awesome. Besides, other locations can be quite overrated (seriously, people really don't get how great the Twin Cities or Chicago are to live in), and it can also be rather expensive and difficult to go to school so far away from home. Don't go far away just to be far away. Go for a real purpose.
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On March 31 2013 05:34 jamesr12 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 05:15 Stratos_speAr wrote:On March 31 2013 05:07 Burrfoot wrote:On March 31 2013 03:46 babylon wrote:On March 30 2013 23:18 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:On March 30 2013 20:31 Burrfoot wrote:
Madison, no contest. Having had a weird ass interview with some medical software company there, the city is pretty nice. Haha Epic? Ya, weird company. The pay they offer is so ridiculous though My friend just turned down an offer @ Epic to go work elsewhere (-$15k but better career prep for her path and more prestige). I do agree they pay absurdly well though. Not to get too far off topic, but I wasn't a programmer but they wanted me to do programming or seomthing, so their offer to me was pretty terrible. Good for a new grad I guess, but I agree, that company doesn't have much upside for career options from what I saw. To the OP: don't listen to all the dreamers saying "do what you love man!". Do what makes money. Do what you love on the weekends. If those are really your only 4 options, have fun in Madison! Do this, and enjoy two days of your week for the rest of your life. Great plan. better then being poor and on welfare and hating everyday of your life
If nothing else, teach English in Korea, right?
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On March 31 2013 02:45 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:16 goofyballer wrote:
I have to imagine you'll get laid way more at UW Madison than any of the other choices, how has this not been discussed yet??? You'd be surprised what a bunch of "conservative" Lutheran girls will do...
This. If this was the only deciding factor I'd go to Luther, the partying is crazy.
@Stratos: Thanks a ton for taking the time to write that up (and for catching my typo) I agree with your mentality about liberal arts schools against something like Madison; I see the smaller classes and the closer community as a benefit over a state school, but I also understand that that kind of limits the diversity/opportunities that a bigger school would have. Since I'm still not fully set on a major or path yet, I really think it's important to keep the horizons as broad as possible. In that interest, would you see Macalester as the best option, since it's a liberal arts school in a larger city? And if so, would it be worth the $30,000 difference? Mac is the only campus I haven't visited, so it's the one I know the least about. Anything you or anyone else knows about it, I'd love to hear.
Thanks for the input so far guys!
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On March 31 2013 11:47 im a roc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:45 Stratos_speAr wrote:On March 31 2013 02:16 goofyballer wrote:
I have to imagine you'll get laid way more at UW Madison than any of the other choices, how has this not been discussed yet??? You'd be surprised what a bunch of "conservative" Lutheran girls will do... [edit]
First, visit Macalester before you choose. This isn't even a discussion; you need to visit it. Actually visiting campus is so crucial to a decision that I cannot express how important this is.
Second, unless you really want to have that big city experience, I would recommend Luther over Macalester. Macalester isn't bad by any means, but Luther is a great school, as long as the financial difference doesn't break you. That said, if the difference in cost and the fact that you'll be in a smaller town are really a factor for you, then as long as you like the Macalester campus, that isn't a bad choice.
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Thanks for the input so far guys!
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On March 31 2013 12:06 im a roc wrote:
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I wouldn't really consider Luther weak academically (and I've never heard anyone talk of it as such), but again, it's up to you. My friend that goes to Luther's dad is actually a Macalester graduate, and I've heard good things about the school as well. Great academics and (again) it's actually IN the Twin Cities, and there's so much there. I guess the only thing you have to do is
1) Compare how you like the campuses
2) Compare the financial situations
3) Look into the singing possibilities at each and decide how much that means to you
Academically, you won't suffer by picking either. It's the things beyond that that you should focus on.
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Alright, thanks again.
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