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On March 11 2013 16:12 LML wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 15:30 Aerisky wrote:
there was a court case in which woman successfully sued McDonald's after she spilled hot coffee on herself. only in the USA .. lol
That case is often taken hilariously out of context and actually is a fairly reasonable lawsuit. The coffee in question was served at much higher temperatures than normal (180+ degrees Fahrenheit); some coffee chains like starbucks also serve at these temperatures and also get sued (even outside of the US for the record), because that temperature drink will give a person severe burns after as few as 2 seconds).
THe woman in question didn't just have a red splotch on her lap, either. She received 3rd degree burns (the same type firefighters get and can need amputation) to over 6% of her body. http://pratlaw.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/an-old-posting-i-always-wanted-to-have-referenced/ here's a pic of you're curious what that looks like. She needed skin grafts to heal. She tried to settle out of court for much less (20000 to cover her medical fees) than she ended up getting. She did not get the millions most people say she received; her court awarded sum was around 640k, minus the lawyer fees for her case (the kind of lawyers you get to sue one of the biggest corporations in the world are pretty expensive) and the medical fees, and you have yourself a pretty damn reasonable amount for a pretty reasonable lawsuit.
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haah funny post you're so off it!
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Yeah I got pm'd by Funnytoss with the same link and basically the same info. Sorry for that! Of course, there are many cases in which tort law likely should have been reformed to prevent the inception of various forms of frivolous litigation, but evidently the McDonald's lawsuit was lacking in legitimacy as an example, not to mention bursting at the seams with sensationalism.
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Let them jump on a rainy day. They'll learn their lesson...
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Teenagers think they are invincible because people are afraid to break their fragile little egos.
Show them they're not invincible.
This usually involves scaring the fuck out of them. That doesn't include chasing them with a baseball bat, that would be more funny than anything else. You really have to the raise the stakes if you want to scare them. That usually involves firearms.
Alternatively you can talk to their parents.
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On March 11 2013 13:00 Aerisky wrote:LOL holy shit, on one hand it's like "DAYUM you're pissed", but on the other, I completely understand what you mean. I'd be mad as hell too if that happened to me. I'm assuming it's like one of those full-size trampolines so you can't just stash it away temporarily and take it out whenever you feel like it. Hmm, could their behavior constitute trespassing? I dunno :X For funnies, though: + Show Spoiler +On July 26 2012 15:45 Shady Sands wrote:There are a number of solutions that may provide relief from the nighttime stalking. Please note that this post is purely informative and I do not in any way encourage you to take any of the below actions. I do not live in Sweden so I do not have any idea what the local laws are--highly recommend consulting with a local lawyer before embarking on any of these courses of action. As always with posts of this nature, the actor, not the poster, bears all responsibility for any consequences arising from any techniques bearing either a substantive or superficial resemblance to the ones listed below. Deterrent/warning/nuisance- Paint dispenser
Basically a device that either drops or sprays paint on him, or splats him with a paintball. Good for tagging down the target so you know who is sneaking up on your house at night.
- Stink dispenser
Same philosophy as the paint device, but with a foul/irritating fluid. Best choices include butyric acid (harmless but smells like rancid butter, obtainable from any chemical company or even your high school chemistry lab.) Alternatively, you could also make a homemade stink solution of ammonia and match-heads--just swirl the match-heads around in ammonia, seal the container, wait two days, and you have a solution of ammonium sulfate, which is what goes into commercial and military stink bombs. Spray/drop/splash your assailant if he intrudes.
- Light trap
Some other people have already posted about this in the thread: basically a triggering system that turns on a powerful light, like a commercial floodlamp. Best if combined with the noise trap below:
- Noise trap
Fire up your loudest, most jarring track of music (or annoying noise like an alarm clock) and set it to go off if he gets near.
Painful but (usually) non-lethal- Caltrops
Caltrops are an antipersonnel weapon made up of two or more sharp nails or spines arranged in such a manner that one of them always points upward from a stable base (for example, a tetrahedron). They cheap and easy to make--all it requires is two long-ish (10cm) nails to make one. So with a box of 500 nails (should be cheap, less than 20 euros), you can make over 250 caltrops and scatter them about your front porch/the grass in your yard. Best idea is to put in the grass or buy a shaggy rug and hide them in there, as they will not be visible. Also remember to spray paint them black or brown so they don't shine in the moonlight. Depending on the thickness of his shoes, the assailant will get a 1-2cm deep wound to the sole of his foot and lose the use of that foot (since the caltrop will be stuck to his shoe), which is usually enough to give you the decisive edge in any physical encounter.
- Nail Heads on Carpet
Same philosophy as the caltrop, but easier to clean up. Drive nails through the bottom of a rug so that the sharp end sticks up, and superglue or epoxy them in place from the back side. Space them about 5cm apart in a triangular pattern. When you need to dispose of the trap, simply pick up the rug and move it.
- Aerosol Flame Trap
Basically a trap that incorporates a lighter, an aerosol can, and a triggering device. Assailant triggers lighter and aerosol spray, which sends a 1-meter jet of flame in a set direction for approximately 3-10 seconds (depending on how much fuel is in the spray can). The flame will not be hot enough to set him on fire, but will scare him and cause minor burns.
- Mace Canister/CS dispenser/Mustard Gas dispenser
Same philosophy as the stink dispenser, but uses irritating/painful chemical agents this time. Mace is commercially obtainable and usually comes in nice spray bottles that you can easily hook up to an automated triggering system. The other two have the advantage of being much more painful than Mace, but also dangerous to yourself as well. Use with care. Your assailant will likely be incapacitated after an encounter like this, and will require medical attention if the chemical amount is high enough.
Potentially Lethal- 00 Buckshot Trap
You do not need a firearm for this trap to work, although it makes it much easier. If you do have a shotgun, simply wire it to go off when someone triggers a pressure plate or tripwire. If you don't, use a thickened metal pipe and an improvised firing pin. Pipe strength is not critical as the "barrel" only has to withstand one shot. The advantage of this is that spread of 00 Buckshot out of a 15-20 cm unchoked barrel is about the size of a fist at 10 meters, which means that you can place this trap well out of sight of an entryway, or it can guard all the windows and doors along an entire wall as opposed to just one point of egress. If you want to tone down the lethality, substitute a lighter load of shot (or beanbag shot) for the device, and/or place at knee/ankle level to disable movement.
- Spring-loaded axe/knife/machete
Basically a device that swings a blade down a predetermined path upon triggering. The ideal path for a thrusting movement is usually upwards through the floorboards or downwards from the ceiling at a slight (20 degree-40 degree) angle. The ideal path for a swinging movement is either at abdomen height or neck height (lethal), or from behind towards the back of the knee/hamstring (disabling).
- FFV 013 / VP 88 / MON-50
These are the Swedish, Finnish, and Russian versions of the American M18 Claymore directional landmine. Since you live in Sweden, these devices should be the versions that are available if you have the right connections in your local community. Triggering systems include tripwires and infrared laser beam triggers (basically one of the beams that goes across the bottom of a garage door.)
- Grenade In A Can
A hand grenade works like this: you pull the firing pin, then throw it, at which a spring-loaded handle held flush to the grenade body is set free when the grenade leaves your hand, arming the fuse and beginning the countdown. So the grenade in a can works by pulling the firing pin but jamming the grenade into a steel can. Then you place the can down on the ground and weight it down with rocks (or glue it to the ground). Then you wrap a thin, clear string (piano wire or nylon fishing lines work the best here) around the grenade and thread the other end around a vertical object to form a tripwire. When the wire is pulled, the grenade will pop out of the can and arm itself, and explode; if you can get the variants with a zero-delay fuse (an instantaneous fuse) then the grenade will explode without warning.
The best grenade to use for this is the Soviet RGD-5, as it is can-sized, cheap, and comes with a zero-delay UZRGM fuse. The grenade itself is usually available in bulk for about $5 (or 4 euros) per unit. It has a guaranteed lethal radius of 3 meters and can inflict fragmentation injuries/shatter glass out to 15 meters, so do not plant one of these close to a window or door. As always, paint the device matte black or brown for low-visibility in nighttime conditions.
how the fuck are you gonna clean the caltrops out if you want to walk through your own yard, lol
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On March 11 2013 14:24 Kiante wrote:
either call the cops or completely ignore them. Kids will be drawn to do stuff if you forbid it up to a certain point. You're obviously not going to beat children with a weapon so cops is the only realistic option. you need to escalate it to a point where they're too scared to do it, or ignore it so they get bored and move on.
source: had some kids in my neighbourhood who thought it was cool to knock and run on my door all day. ignored them for a week and it's never happened again. i found that asking them to stop just made it go further. you have to remember that kids aren't rational human beings. treat them like kids and you'll be fine
yah but they didn't have any incentive to knock on your door except to fuck with you. whereas this guy has an amazing incentive, which is a trampoline, so why would they stop if he ignores it?
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On March 11 2013 18:33 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 13:00 Aerisky wrote:LOL holy shit, on one hand it's like "DAYUM you're pissed", but on the other, I completely understand what you mean. I'd be mad as hell too if that happened to me. I'm assuming it's like one of those full-size trampolines so you can't just stash it away temporarily and take it out whenever you feel like it. Hmm, could their behavior constitute trespassing? I dunno :X For funnies, though: + Show Spoiler +On July 26 2012 15:45 Shady Sands wrote:There are a number of solutions that may provide relief from the nighttime stalking. Please note that this post is purely informative and I do not in any way encourage you to take any of the below actions. I do not live in Sweden so I do not have any idea what the local laws are--highly recommend consulting with a local lawyer before embarking on any of these courses of action. As always with posts of this nature, the actor, not the poster, bears all responsibility for any consequences arising from any techniques bearing either a substantive or superficial resemblance to the ones listed below. Deterrent/warning/nuisance- Paint dispenser
Basically a device that either drops or sprays paint on him, or splats him with a paintball. Good for tagging down the target so you know who is sneaking up on your house at night.
- Stink dispenser
Same philosophy as the paint device, but with a foul/irritating fluid. Best choices include butyric acid (harmless but smells like rancid butter, obtainable from any chemical company or even your high school chemistry lab.) Alternatively, you could also make a homemade stink solution of ammonia and match-heads--just swirl the match-heads around in ammonia, seal the container, wait two days, and you have a solution of ammonium sulfate, which is what goes into commercial and military stink bombs. Spray/drop/splash your assailant if he intrudes.
- Light trap
Some other people have already posted about this in the thread: basically a triggering system that turns on a powerful light, like a commercial floodlamp. Best if combined with the noise trap below:
- Noise trap
Fire up your loudest, most jarring track of music (or annoying noise like an alarm clock) and set it to go off if he gets near.
Painful but (usually) non-lethal- Caltrops
Caltrops are an antipersonnel weapon made up of two or more sharp nails or spines arranged in such a manner that one of them always points upward from a stable base (for example, a tetrahedron). They cheap and easy to make--all it requires is two long-ish (10cm) nails to make one. So with a box of 500 nails (should be cheap, less than 20 euros), you can make over 250 caltrops and scatter them about your front porch/the grass in your yard. Best idea is to put in the grass or buy a shaggy rug and hide them in there, as they will not be visible. Also remember to spray paint them black or brown so they don't shine in the moonlight. Depending on the thickness of his shoes, the assailant will get a 1-2cm deep wound to the sole of his foot and lose the use of that foot (since the caltrop will be stuck to his shoe), which is usually enough to give you the decisive edge in any physical encounter.
- Nail Heads on Carpet
Same philosophy as the caltrop, but easier to clean up. Drive nails through the bottom of a rug so that the sharp end sticks up, and superglue or epoxy them in place from the back side. Space them about 5cm apart in a triangular pattern. When you need to dispose of the trap, simply pick up the rug and move it.
- Aerosol Flame Trap
Basically a trap that incorporates a lighter, an aerosol can, and a triggering device. Assailant triggers lighter and aerosol spray, which sends a 1-meter jet of flame in a set direction for approximately 3-10 seconds (depending on how much fuel is in the spray can). The flame will not be hot enough to set him on fire, but will scare him and cause minor burns.
- Mace Canister/CS dispenser/Mustard Gas dispenser
Same philosophy as the stink dispenser, but uses irritating/painful chemical agents this time. Mace is commercially obtainable and usually comes in nice spray bottles that you can easily hook up to an automated triggering system. The other two have the advantage of being much more painful than Mace, but also dangerous to yourself as well. Use with care. Your assailant will likely be incapacitated after an encounter like this, and will require medical attention if the chemical amount is high enough.
Potentially Lethal- 00 Buckshot Trap
You do not need a firearm for this trap to work, although it makes it much easier. If you do have a shotgun, simply wire it to go off when someone triggers a pressure plate or tripwire. If you don't, use a thickened metal pipe and an improvised firing pin. Pipe strength is not critical as the "barrel" only has to withstand one shot. The advantage of this is that spread of 00 Buckshot out of a 15-20 cm unchoked barrel is about the size of a fist at 10 meters, which means that you can place this trap well out of sight of an entryway, or it can guard all the windows and doors along an entire wall as opposed to just one point of egress. If you want to tone down the lethality, substitute a lighter load of shot (or beanbag shot) for the device, and/or place at knee/ankle level to disable movement.
- Spring-loaded axe/knife/machete
Basically a device that swings a blade down a predetermined path upon triggering. The ideal path for a thrusting movement is usually upwards through the floorboards or downwards from the ceiling at a slight (20 degree-40 degree) angle. The ideal path for a swinging movement is either at abdomen height or neck height (lethal), or from behind towards the back of the knee/hamstring (disabling).
- FFV 013 / VP 88 / MON-50
These are the Swedish, Finnish, and Russian versions of the American M18 Claymore directional landmine. Since you live in Sweden, these devices should be the versions that are available if you have the right connections in your local community. Triggering systems include tripwires and infrared laser beam triggers (basically one of the beams that goes across the bottom of a garage door.)
- Grenade In A Can
A hand grenade works like this: you pull the firing pin, then throw it, at which a spring-loaded handle held flush to the grenade body is set free when the grenade leaves your hand, arming the fuse and beginning the countdown. So the grenade in a can works by pulling the firing pin but jamming the grenade into a steel can. Then you place the can down on the ground and weight it down with rocks (or glue it to the ground). Then you wrap a thin, clear string (piano wire or nylon fishing lines work the best here) around the grenade and thread the other end around a vertical object to form a tripwire. When the wire is pulled, the grenade will pop out of the can and arm itself, and explode; if you can get the variants with a zero-delay fuse (an instantaneous fuse) then the grenade will explode without warning.
The best grenade to use for this is the Soviet RGD-5, as it is can-sized, cheap, and comes with a zero-delay UZRGM fuse. The grenade itself is usually available in bulk for about $5 (or 4 euros) per unit. It has a guaranteed lethal radius of 3 meters and can inflict fragmentation injuries/shatter glass out to 15 meters, so do not plant one of these close to a window or door. As always, paint the device matte black or brown for low-visibility in nighttime conditions.
how the fuck are you gonna clean the caltrops out if you want to walk through your own yard, lol
Tie fishing wire around all of them and just throw em out and reel em back in when you need to. Like have all the wire go through a little hoop connected outside your door or something that you can just grab and rake em all in :D
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Go into the woods and find some poison ivy / oak. (carefully) Squeeze some of that oil into a container and and spray it on the trampoline. Even better when your friends use it. Or run a (live) wire up to the trampoline in the ground and have it turn on when motion is detected.
Or get a fence installed if that's feasible. I have a 6ft privacy fence for the backyard only and don't have any dog poop or kids problems like in the front.
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If I were you I would at least put up some sort of warning sign next to the trampoline to prevent any potential lawsuits.
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Hmmm...try irrigating your trampoline. It will always be wet and pretty much unjumpable :D
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I think a mountain goat for defense would suffice or perhaps a moat filled with horse meat. Nobody likes that stuff apparently.
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Do you own a garden hose with a high pressure nozzle?
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As for calling the cops: does nothing. Kids run, cops go "what you want me to do?", then repeat.
I'd say call the cops, but not for emergency response to catch the kids. Call and ask for advice on dealing with trespassers.
It's a safety issue as well, and you want to be sure that you've got all your ducks in a row before someone hurts themselves (or gets hurt by someone) on your property.
You could try covering it in a tarp or something, so it is less convenient and accessible. kids are lazy. If it's not staring them in the face, ready to go, they may not bother.
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On March 11 2013 14:00 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 13:05 endy wrote:
You have to do something. If one of those kids somehow cracks his skull on the trampoline, his parents are going to sue for not having a locked down fence around it.
Isn't there a way of taking it to pieces rather than putting the whole thing in a storage room ? I don't know about legal issues and maybe this is me just being ignorant but a world where you're held responsible for kids illegally trespassing on your property and getting hurt is messed up, regardless of whether there is a locked down fence on it or not.
you can quite easily get sued for kids pool hopping and drowning in your pool wihtout a fence with a lock. this probably isnt much different.
talk to parents one last time and if it happens again call cops and just send them to the home of the one kid you do know. theyll get the message
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hahahahaha today has been so funny
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Sorry, I won't bounce on it again 
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I am sorry to ask but why is this a problem that kid are having fun in your backyard ?
Is the problem just because they don't care about what you want and disrespect ?
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On March 11 2013 15:11 sths wrote:
Buy a few long length chains, wrap them across the bouncy area and then use a pad lock on the chains. The kids won't be able to bounce on it since theres ropes of chains on it and you can use it when you want.
Alternatively, this sounds like a good idea as well.
On March 11 2013 15:12 Kiante wrote:
get a surveilance camera. identify the children. speak to their parents. speak to the cops. voila
get serious or go home
Ehh a surveilance camera would cost quite a bit, and would likely not be able to pick out their faces in the dark? I also still don't know where everyone lives. They usually gather and hang out in front of my place since there's a park there, but could live 5 minutes up the road.
On March 11 2013 15:25 LML wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 14:23 Aerisky wrote:On March 11 2013 14:00 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On March 11 2013 13:05 endy wrote:
You have to do something. If one of those kids somehow cracks his skull on the trampoline, his parents are going to sue for not having a locked down fence around it.
Isn't there a way of taking it to pieces rather than putting the whole thing in a storage room ? I don't know about legal issues and maybe this is me just being ignorant but a world where you're held responsible for kids illegally trespassing on your property and getting hurt is messed up, regardless of whether there is a locked down fence on it or not. Unfortunately that's how it is people are so litigation-happy these days..... there is actually a very big chance he'd be sued if the kids, who were trespassing, hurt themselves in some way. Sucks. what if you put up a sign that states that trespassing is not allowed and you're not liable for injuries that occure if not following this rule? Also the chains around the trampoline's bouncing area is probably not too bad, either.
Does simply putting up a sign actually defend me from such legal stuff if someone does get hurt?
On March 11 2013 15:39 MaestroSC wrote:
Shoot them with a paintball gun... or hose. Sneakiness will be necessary in order for either to be successful.
Your house might get egged and you might have pissed off teens/parents coming to your door in which case you answer the door in nothing but your underwear, holding a samurai sword, with some sort of mask on. Act casually, and just tell them you were practising when they rang the door bell.
Also.. if u left a trampoline in your front yard..and i was a neighbor... i would totally jump on your trampoline =/. I would quit after you yelled at or chased me... my little brother would be one of the assholes who u would have to physically catch and harm to get him to stop... he is kinda an asshole, and prefers to do something more, once he figures out it makes someone else angry.
New idea... set footsnares/booby traps on front yard. Win win... they stop touching your trampoline, or you get to cackle maniacally as you hear shouts of pain from your front yard.
then again.,.. just chase them with a bat like u planned... but only wearing your underwear and a mask... think of the nightmares that would leave them with. Nobody fucks with the "crazy neighbor"
I do have a paintball gun actually. No CO2 or paintballs though.
On March 11 2013 21:48 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Do you own a garden hose with a high pressure nozzle?
I have a garden hose, but no high pressure nozzle, and the tap is next to the trampoline, so I'd have to run over there in front of them and start turning it on while they run away lol
On March 11 2013 22:23 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +As for calling the cops: does nothing. Kids run, cops go "what you want me to do?", then repeat. I'd say call the cops, but not for emergency response to catch the kids. Call and ask for advice on dealing with trespassers. It's a safety issue as well, and you want to be sure that you've got all your ducks in a row before someone hurts themselves (or gets hurt by someone) on your property. You could try covering it in a tarp or something, so it is less convenient and accessible. kids are lazy. If it's not staring them in the face, ready to go, they may not bother.
Yeah I think this is a good idea. I want a quick and easy solution that doesn't involve me just hoping they are stupid enough for fall for some kind of trap. Again, I also do use it occasionally, so I don't want something messy to cleanup everytime I want to use it.
On March 11 2013 22:39 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 14:00 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On March 11 2013 13:05 endy wrote:
You have to do something. If one of those kids somehow cracks his skull on the trampoline, his parents are going to sue for not having a locked down fence around it.
Isn't there a way of taking it to pieces rather than putting the whole thing in a storage room ? I don't know about legal issues and maybe this is me just being ignorant but a world where you're held responsible for kids illegally trespassing on your property and getting hurt is messed up, regardless of whether there is a locked down fence on it or not. you can quite easily get sued for kids pool hopping and drowning in your pool wihtout a fence with a lock. this probably isnt much different. talk to parents one last time and if it happens again call cops and just send them to the home of the one kid you do know. theyll get the message
I only particularly know the address of the younger kids who have stopped doing it since the first few times. It's just these damn teenagers that I know nothing about :/
On March 12 2013 01:24 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
I am sorry to ask but why is this a problem that kid are having fun in your backyard ?
Is the problem just because they don't care about what you want and disrespect ?
That's mostly it, but it's also annoying simply listening to a bunch of kids jabber on my lawn as well.
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