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So I can never grasp my head around the amount of hours one is supposed to get for sleep. Yea, yea I know the human is supposed to get nine and qauter hours of sleep every night to complete our need for REM sleep. But in reality this is very difficult to achieve.
I am a high school student so I naturally pull late nights quite frequently but also the complete opposite. One week I'll be in bed by 9 or 10PM and wake up at 7AM with no problems falling asleep. So either nine to ten hours of sleep. Unfortantely, it seems to me the more I sleep the more yawning and "tired" feeling I get pass second period in school. I can't understand it.
Some weeks I'll go and get max 5 hours of sleep because I want to play SC all night long or DOTA. The odd thing is yes I will crash sometime in the coming days because the lack of sleep. But school it is like I am awake throughout all my classes! So I'm more tired the more amount of sleep I get?
I failed to mention above the difficulty level of getting up in the morning. If I get nine or ten hours of sleep it can be very difficult to push myself to start the day however, when I get a minimal amount of sleep I can almost instantly get out of bed. No lingering thoughts of how comfortable I am or stretching just ready to get up and move.
Its quite the odd deal isn't? What do you think. You havae similar sleeping pattern and effects? Just wondering. Now I'm going to get my five hours of sleep as I was just in bed and then I was like "shiit got a legal paper to write!' Hah Night peeps!
  
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Try running 70+ mpw. Then you'll crash like mad off 7-8 hours.
I can't say I notice this. Guess I'm as standard as they come. Sometimes I can function of a day of 4-5 hours of sleep, but repeated days kick my ass. I always get out of bed WAY easier if I have had good sleep, and when I have like <6 I feel so meh in the morning and really, really, really don't want to get out of bed.
As far as feeling alert at school, it could have to do with your bodies natural circadian rhythms. There are just certain time people are more alert during the day than others (increased blood flow, etc.) which is what give rise to morning people and night people.
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I would guess that your body goes into a sort of unsustainable sleep deprivation mode where it doesn't ask for as much sleep. But at the same time, all of your cognitive and physical abilities suffer at an almost imperceptible (to you) rate.
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I once felt tired, and I wasn't sure what I was feeling, but I passed out. When I came to, the sensation seemed to be gone, so I dunno. I may have just been imagining it.
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On March 01 2013 16:24 ninazerg wrote:
I once felt tired, and I wasn't sure what I was feeling, but I passed out. When I came to, the sensation seemed to be gone, so I dunno. I may have just been imagining it.
That was roofies.
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maybe you should also look at your energy levels with regards to how much/often you are fapping
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It's possible that your 5 hour sleeps may involve you waking up at the right time in your sleep cycle. If that cycle is interrupted at the wrong time, the grogginess can persist for hours. If you mess around with your sleep times a bit, like trying 8.5 hours, you should find something that works.
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On March 01 2013 17:02 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 16:24 ninazerg wrote:
I once felt tired, and I wasn't sure what I was feeling, but I passed out. When I came to, the sensation seemed to be gone, so I dunno. I may have just been imagining it. That was roofies.
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From my experience, it is due to adolescent growth. I too was perpetually tired and this continued into my first year of college. Now however, many years later, have not experienced such tiredness that would make me totally useless and lazy after school. Unless it is to a life disabling degree, I believe it may just be your body being tired from all the physical and mental growth.
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Nine and quater hours of sleep every night? Where did you get that from? I read sleeping 5- or 9+ hours make you more susceptible to heartattacks. You know there's like a milion of articles stating some bs like that. Everyone needs a different amount of sleep, the 'ideal' amount depends on inner and outer factors, those are not constant. Forget about anything ideal and just try to get enough sleep to feel well during the day.
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i always sleep 10 hours when I don't got plans to get up for something
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How much physical exersice do yoi get? I had the same issue when I was in high school and university. And now that I'm don eand working I started to get more exercise and I feel a lot more aware and less fatigue during the day slash night and it easier to get out of bed. Perhaps that is your problem. I would suggest at least a half hour every other day
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On March 01 2013 20:21 r1flEx wrote:
i always sleep 10 hours when I don't got plans to get up for something
I envy you, even though I've always exercised I can never stay asleep for more than 6 hours, after that I just wake up and can't get any more no matter how hard I try. I've also been told that as a baby my folks could never get me to sleep, but I don't know.
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nina is an unstoppable sarcasm machine, i've never ever seen a single serious post of her ever 
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I find that less than five makes for a rough day where it is hard to pay attention in class, but getting extra sleep never seemed a problem for me. I was always just grabbing what sleep I could.
I think you should try to get a routine in place that's standard...(maybe about 8 hours?) if possible. Five is not quite enough!
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On March 01 2013 21:57 fabiano wrote:nina is an unstoppable sarcasm machine, i've never ever seen a single serious post of her ever
The twist: all of her posts are completely serious.
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That's normal, if you oversleep you'll be groggy most of the day, in my experience.
And no, 9:45 is too much sleep, unless you're really young.
Adults: 6.5 - 7.5 hours per day
12-18 Years Old: 8 - 9 hours per day
If you start to follow a more regular and normal sleeping pattern, including affecting some things that are sleep/rest related (time when you eat, what you eat, actions before sleep, exercise, etc.), the sleepiness on the second period should stop. (I've experienced this a lot. :<)
On March 01 2013 21:57 fabiano wrote:nina is an unstoppable sarcasm machine, i've never ever seen a single serious post of her ever
You didn't look hard enough.
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I get between 6 and 7 hours of sleep every weekday and then 8 hours on the weekend. When I wake up during the work week I feel tired but when I wake up on the weekend I'm wide awake and ready to be productive. I guess it's more of the attitude of what will happen after I wake up. I don't want to wake up to go to work but I'll gladly wake up to clean the house and play video games.
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I've been caught in a long-standing issue for awhile regarding my sleep. I generally get 2-6 hours of sleep, with one day sleeping 8-12 on my day off. That's been the common theme for the last 3 or so years, especially with aspects of working a night shift.
There was a study recently released regarding less sleep impacting short term memory which is kind of concerning. I'd like to change my habits, but I haven't yet implemented steps to accomplish that.
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i aim for 7.5 on weekdays, but that usually turns to 6... and as much as i watch/can on weekends, which is anywhere between 8 and 10
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i aim for 10 and usually feel like shit whether i get it or not, and become tired easily throughout the day
people saying 7 or less is normal sound crazy to me
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On March 01 2013 16:12 jrkirby wrote:
I would guess that your body goes into a sort of unsustainable sleep deprivation mode where it doesn't ask for as much sleep. But at the same time, all of your cognitive and physical abilities suffer at an almost imperceptible (to you) rate.
Also known as a Dunning Kruger effect if I recall correctly. Though the term is also applied to people thinking they are better while not on any drugs than they really are.
I think there's an optimal amount of sleep to get. But also that on weekends I let my body catch up on rest.
There have been summers where I've slept quite a lot and still felt tired during parts of the day.
Which is depressing, because:
Studies on the Dunning–Kruger effect tend to focus on American test subjects. A study on some East Asian subjects suggested that something like the opposite of the Dunning–Kruger effect may operate on self-assessment and motivation to improve.
-Wikipedia
So some people, and I would categorize myself, always think we're not good enough. So if we sleep a lot, it becomes a problem.
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I sleep from anywhere between 8 to 14 hours. I used to feel like shit through the day before i strated working out. It helps you alot.
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Sleep cycles, they exist.
The key is to wake up at the end of a cycle and not in the middle.
Google image search "sleep cycles" and you'll see a graphical representation of the cycles.
I've been using this tool for the past 6 months and my sleep has never been better.
http://www.sleepyti.me
On average it takes a person 15 mins to fall asleep once they lay down. And the average sleep cycle is 90 minutes (again this varies person to person). The sleepyti.me tool calculates what time you need to get up if you go to bed "now" or what time you need to go to bed if you have a specific time you need to get up. The wake up times are all 1 hr & 30 minutes apart (i.e. 5:30am, 7:00am, 8:30am, 10:00am, etc.). They suggest getting 5 or 6 cycles every time you sleep (this is 7:30 or 9 hrs of sleep) to be well rested; but when pressed I can operated fully on 6 hours (4 cycles), though I often stick to the 5 or 6 cycles.
As long as I don't wake up in the middle of a cycle I wake up and am up. That doesn't mean I'm ready to run a marathon first thing in the morning; but I'm not dragging ass the first 2 hours of my awake life either.
There are apps out there for phones and super expensive monitors that can be bought; but I thought I would just try using the sleepyti.me tool and it has worked for me.
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the optimum time is 8,5 hours, not 9,5.
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On March 02 2013 04:55 damahammer wrote:
the optimum time is 8,5 hours, not 9,5.
Depends on the person and their age.
Really old people need like 6 hours max.
But for Pucca, you are right, that's pretty much about the best time.
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