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On February 10 2013 09:42 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 07:16 felisconcolori wrote:On February 10 2013 06:54 sam!zdat wrote:It's far more important to own books you haven't read, than to own books that you have read  An enormous pile of unread books is a daily reminder to remain humble before your own ignorance. You vastly underestimate the power of the human mind. For some people, an enormous pile of unread books is a daily reminder that you need to fix that chair leg. Also, eBooks don't pile that well. I don't understand what you're saying, and screw ebooks.
eBooks are easier to carry around and I can get them anywhere with WiFi. So if I hit the end of my current "stack", I can buy more quickly. (Or, alternately, acquire one from Project Gutenberg, FifthColumn, or another such website that purveys free distribution models legally.)
As to what I was saying, you assume that people seeing an enormous pile of unread books will remind them to realize they are idiots and need to read more. I'm saying that the vast majority of people are unaware of their own ignorance to any significant degree, and is more likely to remind them of something else entirely. (Alluding to the use of books to fix uneven chair or table legs.)
(Yes, I'm a pessimist regarding the median human.)
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Yes, that's why I go around telling people what the big pile of unread books means
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On February 10 2013 14:47 I_Love_Katheryn wrote:
You are a fantastic writer. I can feel your thoughts easily.
Oh you dirty liar, stop. You're making me blush
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I think that, if you're actively seeking to read and enjoy reading, ebooks can be a good medium through which to read.
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On February 10 2013 16:06 Aerisky wrote:
I think that, if you're actively seeking to read and enjoy reading, ebooks can be a good medium through which to read.
Physical books are the best. You clearly don't understand the joy of flipping through pages and running your fingers down the spines of books
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I also think digitized files are a good and convenient medium through which to listen to music, and clearly don't understand the joy of thumbing through vinyl records and running my fingers around their little grooves
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On February 10 2013 17:11 Aerisky wrote:I also think digitized files are a good and convenient medium through which to listen to music, and clearly don't understand the joy of thumbing through vinyl records and running my fingers around their little grooves
Unlike books, you don't hold and touch records while you experience them. The sound quality is what makes digital and analog different.
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That was just a gotcha statement; I don't think vinyl is inherently better than digital music, nor did I at any point suggest that ebooks are superior. Your pretentiousness isn't in liking the things you do. It's in immediately assuming others don't appreciate or understand things the way you do, and in assuming that one's opinions are invalid if their origin lacks really available qualifications and/or does not appear as an authority figure to you.
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Back to me not trusting marttorn to teach me about literary theory because he doesn't have a major and is 15 huh? Get over it. In the end, he didn't even remember 3 quarters of the book and didn't even want to talk about it. The only comment he made was how good the ending was, and it was so dry. And marttorn didn't even have proof that he knew anything. So I guess I'm stupid and pompous for not blindly believing he was as knowledgeable as someone with a degree.
Edit: It wasn't even close to being a Gotcha statement. It's like something you thought was smart or quirky enough to shit out without even thinking it through.
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I love reading to. I read so many books a year (although most are star wars :D).
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lol marttorn is the least of my worries (e: just in terms of what I was talking about there. <3 ya mart of course, also you go girl, DAT VOICE MAN). You were the only person discussing literary theory in that conversation anyway. You and he were speaking from entirely different premises in the first place, classic straw man.
I'm just calling it as I saw it, because your response to my ebook sentiment seemed to be arrogant and entirely incongruous to what I thought was a mild and reasonable post with regard to the utility of digital media. Arrogance, real or imagined, is also a personal pet peeve so there could be my overzealous condemnation coming into play there.
Again with the extrapolation. Nowhere did I call you stupid or imply anything to the affirmative.
A gotcha statement is merely something designed to entrap the responder. It actually has negative connotation-- that was self-deprecatory in nature and merely intended to make you think about the utility of highly portable reading material, familiar characteristics and skeumorphism aside. Also this is just a potshot, but quirky isn't even a descriptor relevant to a statement. It's typically a modifier applied to an individual and is just awkward to use to describe my statement normatively.
Typed on phone; shocking and appalling miscues may manifest themselves.
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Wow, I'm not even going to give a proper response. I'll be damned if that isn't another "gotcha" statement.
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You can't impress people with your enormous pile of ebook
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^That's a fantastic euphemism actually :D
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On February 10 2013 15:56 sam!zdat wrote:
Yes, that's why I go around telling people what the big pile of unread books means
Very good, then. I commend you on your quest to tilt that windmill until it's finally slain.
As to other responses above - it's not about the size of your book stack, it's about how much of it you can take in at once and hold on to after you've done it.
(Wait, that's just... wrong.)
On February 10 2013 18:47 blade55555 wrote:
I love reading to. I read so many books a year (although most are star wars :D).
You can learn things from all kinds of fiction - it's just written in a different way.
They're all just recycled plots, in any case. The window dressing and subtext, along with the construction, is important. (Also, I can't throw stones. I just finished reading (again) the entirety of the Dresden Files.)
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Ebooks are obviously amazing since they allow you to read anything and as much as you want for free, because you're a dirty pirate.
Personally I found Gatsby quite easy to read and I got through it quite quickly... I never saw the charm in it though, it was a fairly boring book and left almost no impression on me, I barely even remember it. I have no idea how it became a book of such immense status in the US.
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On February 11 2013 17:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Ebooks are obviously amazing since they allow you to read anything and as much as you want for free, because you're a dirty pirate.
Personally I found Gatsby quite easy to read and I got through it quite quickly... I never saw the charm in it though, it was a fairly boring book and left almost no impression on me, I barely even remember it. I have no idea how it became a book of such immense status in the US.
Because, for many of us, it is required reading in school (usually in high school, sometimes college). I think I might have read it, but I'm not sure - it was long ago and like you say, it doesn't leave a great deal of impact. Then again, I also have some issues with the writing style of the period.
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