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Xiahou
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore80 Posts
October 25 2012 14:48 GMT
#21
Update here, I'm enlisting on the 13th of December, so there's no way in hell I can get trained for NAPFA before enlistment now.

Anything in particular I should be painstakingly aware of before committing myself to PTP? Will really appreciate any tips that might help me have an easier time settling into the military.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 25 2012 19:13 GMT
#22
On October 25 2012 17:05 BrTarolg wrote:
Also how do they decide where you end up in NS? Is it based on a combination of physical fitness+academia? Like what happens to someone who is very physically fit and very academic? Do they get put into an easier NS or something?

I'm fairly sure the job assignment practice involves some combination of throwing darts and flipping coins.
leecx
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore41 Posts
October 26 2012 16:06 GMT
#23
On October 25 2012 17:05 BrTarolg wrote:
parents live singapore, loving visiting a lot

so glad im british and don't have to do NS though

Not that i hate physical activity, i love it

But having to spend years of your life with other people, working as a *team*? Dear god i'd commit suicide


edit:

BTW i always had some questions to ask about NS

What happens to the guys with a BMI 27 but are actually guys who are extremely fit (weightlifters in particular)?

Also how do they decide where you end up in NS? Is it based on a combination of physical fitness+academia? Like what happens to someone who is very physically fit and very academic? Do they get put into an easier NS or something?


There's a "vocational test" during your first medical checkup, think it's supposed to test your mental aptitude. If they think you're good enough I think it makes you more eligible for OCS (officer cadet school). That's what I think. SOMEHOW I got into PES C, not intentional. Enlisting next year as well, sometime around May.

Guys with BMI 27 and are very fit are... shall we say... uncommon. I've never seen one personally. The ones who are muscular or very strong (canoers, shotput, javelin) usually can't run too far/fast.
no u
Zhasona
Profile Joined March 2011
57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 16:35:43
October 26 2012 16:33 GMT
#24
On October 25 2012 23:48 Xiahou wrote:
Update here, I'm enlisting on the 13th of December, so there's no way in hell I can get trained for NAPFA before enlistment now.

Anything in particular I should be painstakingly aware of before committing myself to PTP? Will really appreciate any tips that might help me have an easier time settling into the military.


Just keep a open mindset, do not talk back at the commanders, and do not treat them as your friend.(This does not apply in unit. In unit after vocational training, the hierarchy goes as per follow: specialist<man<officers). Also, do you want to be a man, a specialist or a officer in the 2 years? Each have their own good and bad points. Don't worry about your fitness level before you enlist. They will whip you into shape progressively. They won't expect you to be running 9:45 mins for your 2.4km right before you enlist.


On October 27 2012 01:06 leecx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 17:05 BrTarolg wrote:
parents live singapore, loving visiting a lot

so glad im british and don't have to do NS though

Not that i hate physical activity, i love it

But having to spend years of your life with other people, working as a *team*? Dear god i'd commit suicide


edit:

BTW i always had some questions to ask about NS

What happens to the guys with a BMI 27 but are actually guys who are extremely fit (weightlifters in particular)?

Also how do they decide where you end up in NS? Is it based on a combination of physical fitness+academia? Like what happens to someone who is very physically fit and very academic? Do they get put into an easier NS or something?


There's a "vocational test" during your first medical checkup, think it's supposed to test your mental aptitude. If they think you're good enough I think it makes you more eligible for OCS (officer cadet school). That's what I think. SOMEHOW I got into PES C, not intentional. Enlisting next year as well, sometime around May.

Guys with BMI 27 and are very fit are... shall we say... uncommon. I've never seen one personally. The ones who are muscular or very strong (canoers, shotput, javelin) usually can't run too far/fast.


How to be eligible for command schools(OCS,SCS):

1) Enlist with either a diploma or a 'A' level cert and you will have a high chance to be a commander provided you pass your IPPT by the end of BMT. As long as you are thrown into Tekong for your BMT, and is at least PES 'B', you are more or less guaranteed to be commander unless you screw up massively or you expressed your opinion that you do not wish to be a commander. IIRC, top 10% of the cohort will be sent to OCS, while the the rest will be sent to either SCS(Specialist) or sent for vocational training(Man).

2) If you are not sent to Tekong, the only way for you to be a commander is through unit recommendation for PES 'C' personnels, or you are the top 1 ranking in your mono-intake BMT batch.

From what I know, the computer test during the medical checkup will determine your vocation after you complete your basic training, and does not affect the chance of you being a commander.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
October 26 2012 18:58 GMT
#25
@Loire: wait a sec.. PTP appear to enlist 1 month before, as Xiahou mentioned. So I think that it's unchanged. But I didn't know commandos had PTP intake.. sounds really weird.

If you have high BMI but are really fit, you go in with the regular intake. There's several of these overbuffed guys walking around, shouldn't be too difficult to spot.

The OP is a A-level holder (soon-to-be), so he's not going into mono intake infantry or whatnot. He's going Tekong for sure. But if you fail IPPT at the end of BMT, you'll be stuck as men, and won't get promoted to spec/officer. You also get paid a lot less if you're stuck as men. So just keep working on your fitness, it helps a ton to have a head start.
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