Foreward: -I live in a relatively good community with rather high property prices. (it isn't a ghetto by any means) -I live in a primarily Asian community. -I currently go to high school.
As a Chinese American, I am wondering why do people always admire Caucasians? All the Asian girls in this region (possibly everywhere) struggle to get white boyfriends. Asian boyfriends are a “last resort” and are stepping stones to better (and whiter) things. Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked. Thank god the only classes I have had in which I encountered white people were PE and health. There aren’t many “normal” white people at my school. I define “normal” as does not get into fights, does not smoke weed, and cares about school and learning at least a little bit. Every white person seems to be the generic delinquent, loitering on campus for hours, smoking some pot with buddies, wandering the streets, skateboarding, and then getting home at 12, doing a half assed job on half of his homework, and then chatting with his Asian girlfriend until 3am. Additionally, old white women in cars sometimes honk and scream at my father for not yielding to them, even when he has right of way. This is a combination of the fact he is a “fucking chink” and he drives a ’97 civic. I find myself yielding to this pressure as well. For instance, last week I was watching something on my phone while standing on the sidewalk in the neighborhood. A white person came out of an adjacent home and told me to fuck off (because I am Chinese). I immediately ran away. However, had that been an Asian person, I probably would have reasoned with him and explained that I have the right to stand on the sidewalk because it is public property. A few weeks ago, a fat white woman in a car screamed and threated to kill me because I was riding my bike in the vehicle lane for a left turn, despite the fact I gestured left with my arm. This is completely legal and is required for the safety for both the cyclist and drivers. She screamed, “GET THE FUCK OFF THE ROAD, YOU DON’T OWN THE ROAD.” I immediately complied. You see, I fear white people. I think white people are better than me, even though I can’t bring myself to admit it. I just listen to them because they are white, and because I’ve been taught by society than I’m the white man’s bitch. In my subconscious, I think they are better than me in every way because they are white and I’m Asian. Are white people really better than me? Maybe. They are taller, have more angular facial features, are stronger, are more athletic, and are faster than Chinese people. They have been pwning eastern society’s military, economy, and society ever since the Ming dynasty. This has caused me to continually consider the nature of this superiority. Are whites really the master race and is that why I am the white man’s bitch? Or am I actually just as good as the white man, and I’ve just let my weak peers influence my perspective of the world? This is something to think about, and maybe some of you guys can give me an answer.
There is no evidence suggesting racial superiority, and there is no trend suggesting it either. I think you are just using that as an excuse for lower self confidence.
Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked
Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked
In your Asian community or in general?
In my school. I have no clue if this applies to other communities as well.
Jesus, where do you live? It sounds more like you have a lot of insane white people in your area, rather than white people hating on Asians. I'm white, so I can't really say I can understand being on the Asian end of the stick fully, but I don't think I've ever seen the kind of unprovoked aggression or random attacks that you've spoken of; it sounds nuts where you live.
We're basically all the same, it's just that there are some racist dickheads out there who would have you believe otherwise.
On October 08 2012 08:22 Chairman Ray wrote: There is no evidence suggesting racial superiority, and there is no trend suggesting it either. I think you are just using that as an excuse for lower self confidence.
I'm sure you won't disagree with the statement that a lot of people in the past and present have believed or do believe in racial superiority. I'm merely noting how that prevalent belief has persisted and affects society to the point where I wonder if it is valid or not.
Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
Dang, your community is really tough. Obviously this phenomenon is by no means limited to your community alone, but I daresay it is not the norm for sure. I wouldn't try to reason with anyone who tells you to fuck off in the case of a sidewalk though, because the idea that it's public property and that you weren't actually loitering should be self-evident...and it would not only be awkward but ultimately fruitless to try to "reason with them" as you put it lol.
On October 08 2012 08:31 Elegy wrote: Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
Your counterargument is valid. However, have you ever seen a white female interested in an Asian man? Have you ever seen a white person get harassed by an Asian because he is white? Have you ever seen white people get beat up by Asian people? If you have, it definitely isn't as frequent as the reverse. I believe most people would agree Asians admire and bow down to whites more than whites admire and bow down to Asians.
Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked.
I think the problem is you're stuck in some time warp gone wrong, possibly around mid-late 19th century America.
Unfortunately they haven't invented DeLoreans yet so I think you're pretty hosed.
Whether intentional or not, I found your blog a very amusing read. Also, im sorry you've had so many bad incidents with us white people, but there is definitely a lot of good ones out there. I know exactly what you mean about asian girls and white guys though. My 2 younger brothers (white) both have only ever dated asian girls of varying ethnicities. Neither of them have ever dated a white girl....so strange
On October 08 2012 08:31 Elegy wrote: Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
Your counterargument is valid. However, have you ever seen a white female interested in an Asian man? Have you ever seen a white person get harassed by an Asian because he is white? Have you ever seen white people get beat up by Asian people? If you have, it definitely isn't as frequent as the reverse. I believe most people would agree Asians admire and bow down to whites more than whites admire and bow down to Asians.
1) Yes, this happens all the time. My roommate Alex actually only liked white babes for whatever reason and dated/boned them exclusively. They didn't seem to mind him being asian. There's definitely babes with a "thing" for asian dudes if you know what I mean 2) Not as much as I've seen the reverse-- but everyone has the capacity for racist actions. 3) See #2
In any case, where I went to high school, there really wasn't some subservience of asians or anything like what you describe. In fact, a lot of the white dudes who hung out with asians were called "eggs" for being white on the outside and yellow on the inside, for taking AP courses, studying hard, and generally "acting asian".
It sounds like you go to school in a tough environment, but stick it out and remember that all races are equal. Try to go to college in an urban area of California.
On October 08 2012 08:16 fatfail wrote: Foreward: -I live in a relatively good community with rather high property prices. (it isn't a ghetto by any means) -I live in a primarily Asian community. -I currently go to high school.
As a Chinese American, I am wondering why do people always admire Caucasians? All the Asian girls in this region (possibly everywhere) struggle to get white boyfriends. Asian boyfriends are a “last resort” and are stepping stones to better (and whiter) things. Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked. Thank god the only classes I have had in which I encountered white people were PE and health. There aren’t many “normal” white people at my school. I define “normal” as does not get into fights, does not smoke weed, and cares about school and learning at least a little bit. Every white person seems to be the generic delinquent, loitering on campus for hours, smoking some pot with buddies, wandering the streets, skateboarding, and then getting home at 12, doing a half assed job on half of his homework, and then chatting with his Asian girlfriend until 3am. Additionally, old white women in cars sometimes honk and scream at my father for not yielding to them, even when he has right of way. This is a combination of the fact he is a “fucking chink” and he drives a ’97 civic. I find myself yielding to this pressure as well. For instance, last week I was watching something on my phone while standing on the sidewalk in the neighborhood. A white person came out of an adjacent home and told me to fuck off (because I am Chinese). I immediately ran away. However, had that been an Asian person, I probably would have reasoned with him and explained that I have the right to stand on the sidewalk because it is public property. A few weeks ago, a fat white woman in a car screamed and threated to kill me because I was riding my bike in the vehicle lane for a left turn, despite the fact I gestured left with my arm. This is completely legal and is required for the safety for both the cyclist and drivers. She screamed, “GET THE FUCK OFF THE ROAD, YOU DON’T OWN THE ROAD.” I immediately complied. You see, I fear white people. I think white people are better than me, even though I can’t bring myself to admit it. I just listen to them because they are white, and because I’ve been taught by society than I’m the white man’s bitch. In my subconscious, I think they are better than me in every way because they are white and I’m Asian. Are white people really better than me? Maybe. They are taller, have more angular facial features, are stronger, are more athletic, and are faster than Chinese people. They have been pwning eastern society’s military, economy, and society ever since the Ming dynasty. This has caused me to continually consider the nature of this superiority. Are whites really the master race and is that why I am the white man’s bitch? Or am I actually just as good as the white man, and I’ve just let my weak peers influence my perspective of the world? This is something to think about, and maybe some of you guys can give me an answer.
On October 08 2012 08:31 Elegy wrote: Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
Your counterargument is valid. However, have you ever seen a white female interested in an Asian man? Have you ever seen a white person get harassed by an Asian because he is white? Have you ever seen white people get beat up by Asian people? If you have, it definitely isn't as frequent as the reverse. I believe most people would agree Asians admire and bow down to whites more than whites admire and bow down to Asians.
1) Yes, this happens all the time. My roommate Alex actually only liked white babes for whatever reason and dated/boned them exclusively. They didn't seem to mind him being asian. There's definitely babes with a "thing" for asian dudes if you know what I mean 2) Not as much as I've seen the reverse-- but everyone has the capacity for racist actions. 3) See #2
In any case, where I went to high school, there really wasn't some subservience of asians or anything like what you describe. In fact, a lot of the white dudes who hung out with asians were called "eggs" for being white on the outside and yellow on the inside, for taking AP courses, studying hard, and generally "acting asian".
It sounds like you go to school in a tough environment, but stick it out and remember that all races are equal. Try to go to college in an urban area of California.
Haha, 'eggs', I remember that. We also had a few 'bananas' (yellow on the outside, white on the inside).
On October 08 2012 08:31 Elegy wrote: Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
Your counterargument is valid. However, have you ever seen a white female interested in an Asian man? Have you ever seen a white person get harassed by an Asian because he is white? Have you ever seen white people get beat up by Asian people? If you have, it definitely isn't as frequent as the reverse. I believe most people would agree Asians admire and bow down to whites more than whites admire and bow down to Asians.
1) Yes, this happens all the time. My roommate Alex actually only liked white babes for whatever reason and dated/boned them exclusively. They didn't seem to mind him being asian. There's definitely babes with a "thing" for asian dudes if you know what I mean 2) Not as much as I've seen the reverse-- but everyone has the capacity for racist actions. 3) See #2
In any case, where I went to high school, there really wasn't some subservience of asians or anything like what you describe. In fact, a lot of the white dudes who hung out with asians were called "eggs" for being white on the outside and yellow on the inside, for taking AP courses, studying hard, and generally "acting asian".
It sounds like you go to school in a tough environment, but stick it out and remember that all races are equal. Try to go to college in an urban area of California.
Haha, 'eggs', I remember that. We also had a few 'bananas' (yellow on the outside, white on the inside).
Oh, that's funny, we called them "twinkies" but bananas works great too
On October 08 2012 08:31 Elegy wrote: Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
You seem to be overgeneralizing on Asian talents... :p
But yes, reality is how you perceive it regardless of how small the sample size, extreme experiences are more profoundly memorable than mundane ones. As such, you would believe they are more frequent and more severe than they are in reality. As for them being racially motivated, I wont comment as I am not privy to the treatment that OP has received....
On October 08 2012 08:22 Chairman Ray wrote: There is no evidence suggesting racial superiority, and there is no trend suggesting it either. I think you are just using that as an excuse for lower self confidence.
There can be racial superiority in terms of attractiveness subjective to an individual. For example, I find that white women are on average more attractive than black women in my taste
On October 08 2012 08:16 fatfail wrote: Foreward: -I live in a relatively good community with rather high property prices. (it isn't a ghetto by any means) -I live in a primarily Asian community. -I currently go to high school.
As a Chinese American, I am wondering why do people always admire Caucasians? All the Asian girls in this region (possibly everywhere) struggle to get white boyfriends. Asian boyfriends are a “last resort” and are stepping stones to better (and whiter) things. Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked. Thank god the only classes I have had in which I encountered white people were PE and health. There aren’t many “normal” white people at my school. I define “normal” as does not get into fights, does not smoke weed, and cares about school and learning at least a little bit. Every white person seems to be the generic delinquent, loitering on campus for hours, smoking some pot with buddies, wandering the streets, skateboarding, and then getting home at 12, doing a half assed job on half of his homework, and then chatting with his Asian girlfriend until 3am. Additionally, old white women in cars sometimes honk and scream at my father for not yielding to them, even when he has right of way. This is a combination of the fact he is a “fucking chink” and he drives a ’97 civic. I find myself yielding to this pressure as well. For instance, last week I was watching something on my phone while standing on the sidewalk in the neighborhood. A white person came out of an adjacent home and told me to fuck off (because I am Chinese). I immediately ran away. However, had that been an Asian person, I probably would have reasoned with him and explained that I have the right to stand on the sidewalk because it is public property. A few weeks ago, a fat white woman in a car screamed and threated to kill me because I was riding my bike in the vehicle lane for a left turn, despite the fact I gestured left with my arm. This is completely legal and is required for the safety for both the cyclist and drivers. She screamed, “GET THE FUCK OFF THE ROAD, YOU DON’T OWN THE ROAD.” I immediately complied. You see, I fear white people. I think white people are better than me, even though I can’t bring myself to admit it. I just listen to them because they are white, and because I’ve been taught by society than I’m the white man’s bitch. In my subconscious, I think they are better than me in every way because they are white and I’m Asian. Are white people really better than me? Maybe. They are taller, have more angular facial features, are stronger, are more athletic, and are faster than Chinese people. They have been pwning eastern society’s military, economy, and society ever since the Ming dynasty. This has caused me to continually consider the nature of this superiority. Are whites really the master race and is that why I am the white man’s bitch? Or am I actually just as good as the white man, and I’ve just let my weak peers influence my perspective of the world? This is something to think about, and maybe some of you guys can give me an answer.
Er... you probably live in flyover country
Don't worry college is just around the corner
No, I actually live in the northern populated part of the golden state. And I'll admit my post may be slightly sensationalized and I'm not traumatized or really "outraged" by any means. However, the fact remains that people leave white people alone because they are scary and alpha and smoke pot and aren't afraid to kick your ass. This doesn't bother me, because I just avoid white people, but still, why do I need to do this? Why do I need to purposely avoid white people so I don't get fucked up? Why?
On October 08 2012 08:31 Elegy wrote: Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
Your counterargument is valid. However, have you ever seen a white female interested in an Asian man? Have you ever seen a white person get harassed by an Asian because he is white? Have you ever seen white people get beat up by Asian people? If you have, it definitely isn't as frequent as the reverse. I believe most people would agree Asians admire and bow down to whites more than whites admire and bow down to Asians.
To answer your questions: White female interested in an Asian man? Yes. My ex-wife left me for one. White person harassed by an Asian because he is white? Not really, at least in the United States. In China, however, I have heard from people that were there that it can happen. Likely an example of minority status in any location. Then again, it's possible that a Caucasian wouldn't notice even if it were happening in the US, unless it were of the extreme variety. (IE, in the wrong part of town and told to leave by people living there for their own safety. Or violently accosted. Again, minority/majority issue dependent on the location.)
I wouldn't agree, but largely because generally in the United States most people don't bow down to anyone unless required to because of authority. Then again, my experience of people with "authority" runs a gamut of responses from others ranging from polite cooperation to obscene and violent defiance. Your mileage may vary.
Further, I agree with others in this thread. Where the hell do you live? I live in the Deep South, and do not see the kinds of things you are describing. There is intolerance, and racism, but they are varied and cut in all directions. Are you feeling persecuted?
(Disclaimer: As part of the "majority" my personal experience of racism may be suspect. I don't claim to know the trouble experienced by minority and ethnic groups in the US. In general, my opinion of racism and racists of all kinds is that they are a compelling argument for why humanity as a group sucks. Then again, there are few if any racial epithets that could be levied against me, even using the portion of my DNA that is from a minority group, that would bother me - there just isn't any historical or cultural baggage that applies. There just isn't the same impact other words have on other people.)
On October 08 2012 08:22 Chairman Ray wrote: There is no evidence suggesting racial superiority, and there is no trend suggesting it either. I think you are just using that as an excuse for lower self confidence.
I'm sure you won't disagree with the statement that a lot of people in the past and present have believed or do believe in racial superiority. I'm merely noting how that prevalent belief has persisted and affects society to the point where I wonder if it is valid or not.
A lot of people have that belief, namely neo-nazis and the kkk. Just because many people have that belief does not mean that it is valid. There was never any scientific research done regarding racial superiority, therefore the belief that one race is superior is completely irrational. If such research is ever conducted, it will be censored due to the fact that it will cause a lot of violence. The truth is that every race and ethnicity has a lot of representation in both academics and athletics, especially China, so if you require any information that will motivate you to feel equal to white people, this is it.
On October 08 2012 08:16 fatfail wrote: Foreward: -I live in a relatively good community with rather high property prices. (it isn't a ghetto by any means) -I live in a primarily Asian community. -I currently go to high school.
As a Chinese American, I am wondering why do people always admire Caucasians? All the Asian girls in this region (possibly everywhere) struggle to get white boyfriends. Asian boyfriends are a “last resort” and are stepping stones to better (and whiter) things. Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked. Thank god the only classes I have had in which I encountered white people were PE and health. There aren’t many “normal” white people at my school. I define “normal” as does not get into fights, does not smoke weed, and cares about school and learning at least a little bit. Every white person seems to be the generic delinquent, loitering on campus for hours, smoking some pot with buddies, wandering the streets, skateboarding, and then getting home at 12, doing a half assed job on half of his homework, and then chatting with his Asian girlfriend until 3am. Additionally, old white women in cars sometimes honk and scream at my father for not yielding to them, even when he has right of way. This is a combination of the fact he is a “fucking chink” and he drives a ’97 civic. I find myself yielding to this pressure as well. For instance, last week I was watching something on my phone while standing on the sidewalk in the neighborhood. A white person came out of an adjacent home and told me to fuck off (because I am Chinese). I immediately ran away. However, had that been an Asian person, I probably would have reasoned with him and explained that I have the right to stand on the sidewalk because it is public property. A few weeks ago, a fat white woman in a car screamed and threated to kill me because I was riding my bike in the vehicle lane for a left turn, despite the fact I gestured left with my arm. This is completely legal and is required for the safety for both the cyclist and drivers. She screamed, “GET THE FUCK OFF THE ROAD, YOU DON’T OWN THE ROAD.” I immediately complied. You see, I fear white people. I think white people are better than me, even though I can’t bring myself to admit it. I just listen to them because they are white, and because I’ve been taught by society than I’m the white man’s bitch. In my subconscious, I think they are better than me in every way because they are white and I’m Asian. Are white people really better than me? Maybe. They are taller, have more angular facial features, are stronger, are more athletic, and are faster than Chinese people. They have been pwning eastern society’s military, economy, and society ever since the Ming dynasty. This has caused me to continually consider the nature of this superiority. Are whites really the master race and is that why I am the white man’s bitch? Or am I actually just as good as the white man, and I’ve just let my weak peers influence my perspective of the world? This is something to think about, and maybe some of you guys can give me an answer.
Er... you probably live in flyover country
Don't worry college is just around the corner
No, I actually live in the northern populated part of the golden state. And I'll admit my post may be slightly sensationalized and I'm not traumatized or really "outraged" by any means. However, the fact remains that people leave white people alone because they are scary and alpha and smoke pot and aren't afraid to kick your ass. This doesn't bother me, because I just avoid white people, but still, why do I need to do this? Why do I need to purposely avoid white people so I don't get fucked up? Why?
Dude this honestly sounds like an issue with you as opposed to being Asian
Get jacked
Get a job, get a car, get in a fight once or twice
If shit gets really bad, befriend a civil rights attorney, keep your cell phone camera handy, and start recording some of this shit and filing lawsuits
Ok, first of all, there is no master race. Western society just lucked out with a series of technological advancements and got a head start on everyone. Furthermore, although each race has natural strengths and weaknesses, the confirmed ones are always relatively insignificant (i.e. blacks' superior leg muscles). Second of all, I'm sincerely sorry you have to hang with the lowest common denominator of the human race. I really am. Once you leave, I'm fairly certain you'll find that most white people have more than an empty cavity between their ears. Third of all, get some self confidence! When some dumb old lady yells at you for retarded shit, don't just walk away, tail between your legs. Stand up for yourself!
They are taller, have more angular facial features, are stronger, are more athletic, and are faster than Chinese people.
Bullshit.
Heard of a guy named Liu Xiang? One of the best 100m hurdle runners of all time. You might be able to quantitatively show that "white" people are on average taller, but that is probably the limit. How would you even quantify "more athletic" or even "faster"?
More importantly, how does that matter? Why would that make a person superior. Last I checked Usian Bolt isn't superior to myself or anyone else, except in the context of his event.
While it sucks that you have to live in a place with blatant, oppressive racism it sounds like your really starting to really accept it and are starting to use this kind of bullshit pseudoscience to convince yourself that such behavior is justified. Do yourself a favor and stop with the bullshit. You don't deserve it.
There is no evidence suggesting racial superiority, and there is no trend suggesting it either. I think you are just using that as an excuse for lower self confidence.
This +1000.
There is zero genetic difference for racial superiority or even "race". As far as science is concerned "race" does not exist. Don't sell yourself short.
On October 08 2012 09:21 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Ok, first of all, there is no master race. Western society just lucked out with a series of technological advancements and got a head start on everyone. Furthermore, although each race has natural strengths and weaknesses, the confirmed ones are always relatively insignificant (i.e. blacks' superior leg muscles).
I do not even know where to begin on this comment. Like seriously? please tell me you're trolling.
Your superiority thing is called social darwinism, and its bullshit, js. Futhermore I think you are overgeneralizing a LOT of the white-people and asian people there. I'm white, I'm not mean like that, my family, friends, etc. are not like that. Furthermore I have never seen this kind of reverse racism seem so weird. I don't mean to say this is impossible, of course its not, I've just never seen someone say that its so spread that every white person must be like this . I think you should take a look at how you view this situation, then see how many people in total you judged over a day out of the total number of white people either you know or live in your city. I hope your experience gets better .
Every white person is a delinquent but has an asian girlfriend - maybe they are just cooler than you because that shit is "cool" when you are in highschool.
Women drivers yell at your dad - people yell at me all the time while driving, and I yell at them; some drivers just yell at other people because they get pissed.
A guy tells you to go away when you are loitering outside his house - Chinese people are definitely known for being teenage thieves so it was definitely because you were chinese, right? [/sarcasm]
A woman yelled at a bicyclist in the middle of the road - sorry for more sarcasm here, but maybe chinese people shouldn't always ride bicycles. No seriously, every bicyclist gets yelled at.
You seem incredibly sheltered and harbor a racist attitude towards non-asians, which you then portray as racism on their part. As someone who has traveled to many places in the world, I have never been in a more racist country than China, so on the one hand it doesn't surprise me. But to give you some perspective, here's a rewritten version of your story, from a different perspective.
Foreward: -I live in a relatively good community with rather high property prices. (it isn't a ghetto by any means) -I live in a primarily White community. -I currently go to high school.
As a White American, I am wondering why do people always admire African Americans? All the White girls in this region (possibly everywhere) struggle to get white boyfriends. White boyfriends are a “last resort” and are stepping stones to better (and blacker) things. Additionally, black people who call WhitesCrackers never experience retaliation while calling a black person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked. Thank god the only classes I have had in which I encountered black people were PE and health. There aren’t many “normal” black people at my school. I define “normal” as does not get into fights, does not smoke weed, and cares about school and learning at least a little bit. Every black person seems to be the generic delinquent, loitering on campus for hours, smoking some pot with buddies, wandering the streets, skateboarding, and then getting home at 12, doing a half assed job on half of his homework, and then chatting with his White girlfriend until 3am. Additionally, old black women in cars sometimes honk and scream at my father for not yielding to them, even when he has right of way. This is a combination of the fact he is a “fucking Cracker” and he drives a ’97 civic. I find myself yielding to this pressure as well. For instance, last week I was watching something on my phone while standing on the sidewalk in the neighborhood. A black person came out of an adjacent home and told me to fuck off (because I am White). I immediately ran away. However, had that been an White person, I probably would have reasoned with him and explained that I have the right to stand on the sidewalk because it is public property. A few weeks ago, a fat black woman in a car screamed and threated to kill me because I was riding my bike in the vehicle lane for a left turn, despite the fact I gestured left with my arm. This is completely legal and is required for the safety for both the cyclist and drivers. She screamed, “GET THE FUCK OFF THE ROAD, YOU DON’T OWN THE ROAD.” I immediately complied. You see, I fear black people. I think black people are better than me, even though I can’t bring myself to admit it. I just listen to them because they are black , and because I’ve been taught by society than I’m the black man’s bitch. In my subconscious, I think they are better than me in every way because they are black and I’m White. Are black people really better than me? Maybe. They are taller, have more angular facial features, are stronger, are more athletic, and are faster than White people. They have been powering the USA's military, economy, and society ever since the 1700s. This has caused me to continually consider the nature of this superiority. Are blacks really the master race and is that why I am the black man’s bitch? Or am I actually just as good as the black man, and I’ve just let my weak peers influence my perspective of the world? This is something to think about, and maybe some of you guys can give me an answer.
No white people aren't superior to asian people, and no, not all white people are pot smoking, violent criminals. However I sometimes do feel that western culture seems to have one great difference to (some) asian cultures: you don't get respect as easy here, in most cases you are going to have to take it. Assertiveness and maybe some form of (controlled) agression go a long way in the white man's land so you just have to play along. If someone gives you shit without reason then give them shit back. If they try to hurt you or physically push you around go Bruce Lee on their ass and they will leave you alone. Even if people treat you friendly and are respectful, you'll still need to be assertive to get somewhere.
I'm not saying you should go around being an asshole, but you will have to learn to stand your ground and demand the respect you deserve. Also get rid of that rediculous infiriority complex of yours, because if you feel like you are less than someone you sure as hell are gonna get treated that way.
Edit: Just to give an example; I grew up in what you could call a redneck town with mostly white people that were in a lot of cases were dumb, ignorant, and had a tendency to solve discussions with their fists. I had a couple of Asian friends who also grew up there, but apparently unlike you they knew how to play the game. As I said, they didn't let themselves get pushed around and as a result they are treated just the same way any other person in that town is.
Edit #2: That guy above me also has a good point. I encounter plenty of assholes who give me shit as well, even though we are of the same race. Color has relatively little to do with it I think.
Stop being a racist. There isn't more to this, just stop attributing things to race.
Grow up and take control of something. Get involved in an extracurricular activity and take a strong leadership role. This will give you a stronger feeling of self-worth and will earn you some of the external respect you crave.
Wait. Keep studying, do well in school, go to college, and keep taking leadership roles in non-school stuff. Pretty soon you'll be older and you'll have the experience to be in a commanding position, and you won't have to whine to TL about how you can't get a girlfriend (because deep down, you and I both know that was what this was really about).
To be honest I thought Asians were taught that they were smarter... more conniving. Just like Jews in this sense. But that Black people were more athletic. And White people were kind of in between. Then there's always talk of exceptions and work ethic where people point to Obama and say that he's black and successful and intelligent.
If not directly then subconsciously. And We were also taught that white was prettier. White skin is better.
I can sort of sympathize (not with the inferiority complex but about Asians getting generally shafted)but ... then you took it to such extremes that you kinda lost me. I also live in Northern California. Which city are you in, if you don't mind telling me?
On October 08 2012 09:52 iGrok wrote: I realized I never summed things up.
Your Issues
You are racist.
You have an inferiority complex.
You are in highschool.
Solutions
Stop being a racist. There isn't more to this, just stop attributing things to race.
Grow up and take control of something. Get involved in an extracurricular activity and take a strong leadership role. This will give you a stronger feeling of self-worth and will earn you some of the external respect you crave.
Wait. Keep studying, do well in school, go to college, and keep taking leadership roles in non-school stuff. Pretty soon you'll be older and you'll have the experience to be in a commanding position, and you won't have to whine to TL about how you can't get a girlfriend (because deep down, you and I both know that was what this was really about).
Finally a sane person. This dude needs to get laid, fuck a white girl and then all of a sudden the perceived racism will be gone.
On October 08 2012 09:52 iGrok wrote: I realized I never summed things up.
Your Issues
You are racist.
You have an inferiority complex.
You are in highschool.
Solutions
Stop being a racist. There isn't more to this, just stop attributing things to race.
Grow up and take control of something. Get involved in an extracurricular activity and take a strong leadership role. This will give you a stronger feeling of self-worth and will earn you some of the external respect you crave.
Wait. Keep studying, do well in school, go to college, and keep taking leadership roles in non-school stuff. Pretty soon you'll be older and you'll have the experience to be in a commanding position, and you won't have to whine to TL about how you can't get a girlfriend (because deep down, you and I both know that was what this was really about).
Finally a sane person. This dude needs to get laid, fuck a white girl and then all of a sudden the perceived racism will be gone.
I don't agree with this (not to mention that it is very unlikely to happen, as opposed to the converse happening).
He did exaggerate way too much and also has an appalling amount of self-hate and inferiority complex, but the first half or so of his post does have an element of truth in it.
On October 08 2012 08:22 Chairman Ray wrote: There is no evidence suggesting racial superiority, and there is no trend suggesting it either. I think you are just using that as an excuse for lower self confidence.
I'm sure you won't disagree with the statement that a lot of people in the past and present have believed or do believe in racial superiority. I'm merely noting how that prevalent belief has persisted and affects society to the point where I wonder if it is valid or not.
A lot of people have that belief, namely neo-nazis and the kkk. Just because many people have that belief does not mean that it is valid. There was never any scientific research done regarding racial superiority, therefore the belief that one race is superior is completely irrational. If such research is ever conducted, it will be censored due to the fact that it will cause a lot of violence. The truth is that every race and ethnicity has a lot of representation in both academics and athletics, especially China, so if you require any information that will motivate you to feel equal to white people, this is it.
I don't think the OP was prescriptively claiming that there is a superior race, but rather descriptively pointing out that there is systematic racism that favors a certain race generally in society.
In any case, the way to combat this sort of systematic racism (perceived or otherwise) is not to bow down to it but to become such a badass that it does not even matter. Of course, easier said than done, especially in such unfavorable environment.
On October 08 2012 09:21 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Ok, first of all, there is no master race. Western society just lucked out with a series of technological advancements and got a head start on everyone. Furthermore, although each race has natural strengths and weaknesses, the confirmed ones are always relatively insignificant (i.e. blacks' superior leg muscles).
I do not even know where to begin on this comment. Like seriously? please tell me you're trolling.
Which part do you take issue with? The comment on how Western society got where it did, or how different races are predisposed to have slight advantages and disadvantages in certain areas?
On October 08 2012 09:52 iGrok wrote: I realized I never summed things up.
Your Issues
You are racist.
You have an inferiority complex.
You are in highschool.
Solutions
Stop being a racist. There isn't more to this, just stop attributing things to race.
Grow up and take control of something. Get involved in an extracurricular activity and take a strong leadership role. This will give you a stronger feeling of self-worth and will earn you some of the external respect you crave.
Wait. Keep studying, do well in school, go to college, and keep taking leadership roles in non-school stuff. Pretty soon you'll be older and you'll have the experience to be in a commanding position, and you won't have to whine to TL about how you can't get a girlfriend (because deep down, you and I both know that was what this was really about).
Finally a sane person. This dude needs to get laid, fuck a white girl and then all of a sudden the perceived racism will be gone.
I don't agree with this (not to mention that it is very unlikely to happen, as opposed to the converse happening).
He did exaggerate way too much and also has an appalling amount of self-hate and inferiority complex, but the first half or so of his post does have an element of truth in it.
Ok, so I've got nothing better to do atm, so i'm going to just see what I can find here.
Here's the first half (and a bit) of his post. I'm going to put in green the things that might be anti-asian, red the things that are the OP being racist, and blue the things that have no racial component when looked at objectively or could be said about any race. And for fun, I'm going to bold the actually important stuff.
As a Chinese American, I am wondering why do people always admire Caucasians? All the Asiangirls in this region (possibly everywhere) struggle to get whiteboyfriends.Asian boyfriends are a “last resort” and are stepping stones to better (and whiter) things. Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked. Thank god the only classes I have had in which I encountered white people were PE and health. There aren’t many “normal” white people at my school. I define “normal” as does not get into fights, does not smoke weed, and cares about school and learning at least a little bit. Every white person seems to be the generic delinquent, loitering on campus for hours, smoking some pot with buddies, wandering the streets, skateboarding, and then getting home at 12, doing a half assed job on half of his homework, and then chatting with his Asian girlfriend until 3am. Additionally, old white women in cars sometimes honk and scream at my father for not yielding to them, even when he has right of way. This is a combination of the fact he is a “fucking chink” and he drives a ’97 civic. I find myself yielding to this pressure as well. For instance, last week I was watching something on my phone while standing on the sidewalk in the neighborhood. A white person came out of an adjacent home and told me to fuck off (because I am Chinese). I immediately ran away. However, had that been an Asian person, I probably would have reasoned with him and explained that I have the right to stand on the sidewalk because it is public property.
So, really the only possible nugget of truth in there was that Asian boyfriends in highschool are a "last resort" and are stepping stones.
Just for fun, lets keep living in his world, where racial stereotypes are the defining feature!
Weekend schedule of the Asian boyfriend: Friday after school: Home to study Friday Night: Traditional dinner with family Saturday Morning: Chores Saturday Midday: Piano Practice Saturday Night: Study for SATs Sunday Morning: Church Sunday Midday:Study for schoolwork Sunday Night: School night can't go out, keep studying.
Weekend schedule of the White boyfriend: Friday after school: Hang out with friends on campus Friday Night: Go see a movie with girlfriend and other people Saturday Morning: Sleep in Saturday Midday: Hang out at the Skate park Saturday Night: Party at John's house, his parents are out of town! Dance with and hook up with girlfriend Sunday Morning: Sleep in Sunday Midday: Skating Sunday Night: Do enough homework to pass
Now why would the Asian girl want to have a white boyfriend I wonder? Remember, we're living in his world where racial stereotypes are completely legit.
On October 08 2012 10:16 phosphorylation wrote: In any case, the way to combat this sort of systematic racism (perceived or otherwise) is not to bow down to it but to become such a badass that it does not even matter. Of course, easier said than done, especially in such unfavorable environment.
It's really a much more complicated issue. Even a success story like Jeremy Lin faces racist sentiments and flack despite his level of success, and it begs the question as to why we should permit such inequalities in the first place (to draw a SC2 analogy, even if Fruitdealer was good enough to overcome the flaws of a terrible map pool in the first GSL, that doesn't justify keeping maps like Steppes of War or Jungle Basin in the map pool - while some people may point to the complexity of Fruitdealer's story as mentioned in that very well written TL article, that proves my point in displaying why certain individuals succeed in very contingent circumstances, and why those contingencies are not sufficient to address a generalized plane of inequality). Plus, it presumes the potential to succeed in the face of such systematic problems, when sometimes, the problem is inherently embedded within the social structure in the first place. Consider the role of Asian Americans in media - it's a self-reinforcing problem, lack of Asian-Americans in media lead to less exposure which lead to conscious or subconscious reluctance to accept Asian-Americans into the media.
Admiring someone for their race is just as stupid as hating someone for it.
Obviously I'm not American, so I don't know what it's like over there, but in NZ (Auckland) at least I don't think you would find so much blatant racist bullshit like you described in your post.
I think you're right in some way, white people do generally get an easier time of it, but as a foreigner living in Korea that works in my favour so I'm not gonna complain about it.
On October 08 2012 10:16 phosphorylation wrote: In any case, the way to combat this sort of systematic racism (perceived or otherwise) is not to bow down to it but to become such a badass that it does not even matter. Of course, easier said than done, especially in such unfavorable environment.
It's really a much more complicated issue. Even a success story like Jeremy Lin faces racist sentiments and flack despite his level of success, and it begs the question as to why we should permit such inequalities in the first place (to draw a SC2 analogy, even if Fruitdealer was good enough to overcome the flaws of a terrible map pool in the first GSL, that doesn't justify keeping maps like Steppes of War or Jungle Basin in the map pool - while some people may point to the complexity of Fruitdealer's story as mentioned in that very well written TL article, that proves my point in displaying why certain individuals succeed in very contingent circumstances, and why those contingencies are not sufficient to address a generalized plane of inequality). Plus, it presumes the potential to succeed in the face of such systematic problems, when sometimes, the problem is inherently embedded within the social structure in the first place. Consider the role of Asian Americans in media - it's a self-reinforcing problem, lack of Asian-Americans in media lead to less exposure which lead to conscious or subconscious reluctance to accept Asian-Americans into the media.
valid points; i did over-simplify the issue a little -- but i maintain that this is by far the most productive attitude to have as an individual. as a collective, i agree that some of these problems need to be tackled at the fundamental core.
On October 08 2012 10:16 phosphorylation wrote: In any case, the way to combat this sort of systematic racism (perceived or otherwise) is not to bow down to it but to become such a badass that it does not even matter. Of course, easier said than done, especially in such unfavorable environment.
It's really a much more complicated issue. Even a success story like Jeremy Lin faces racist sentiments and flack despite his level of success, and it begs the question as to why we should permit such inequalities in the first place (to draw a SC2 analogy, even if Fruitdealer was good enough to overcome the flaws of a terrible map pool in the first GSL, that doesn't justify keeping maps like Steppes of War or Jungle Basin in the map pool - while some people may point to the complexity of Fruitdealer's story as mentioned in that very well written TL article, that proves my point in displaying why certain individuals succeed in very contingent circumstances, and why those contingencies are not sufficient to address a generalized plane of inequality). Plus, it presumes the potential to succeed in the face of such systematic problems, when sometimes, the problem is inherently embedded within the social structure in the first place. Consider the role of Asian Americans in media - it's a self-reinforcing problem, lack of Asian-Americans in media lead to less exposure which lead to conscious or subconscious reluctance to accept Asian-Americans into the media.
valid points; i did over-simplify the issue a little -- but i maintain that this is by far the most productive attitude to have as an individual. as a collective, i agree that some of these problems need to be tackled at the fundamental core.
Yeah, I agree with you there. I just think that comments in this blog have been overly hostile towards the OP. People in general seem to have this knee-jerk reaction to any comments on things like racism, which seems to stem from the mantra of viewing the world as colorblind, when the reality of things are quite different. There was an interesting Newsweek article, "Is Your Baby Racist?" that pointed to studies where children grew up more tolerant when parents actively pointed out racial differences but explained them, rather than smoothing them over. In light of this, along with my personal knowledge gained from critical race studies and class studies courses, I think it's important for the OP to be able to express his views without getting shat on by a flood of angry reactionaries. He needs to be able to air his views in order to engage in dialogue with more reasonable views (like yours) in order to grapple with identity and relations towards society. If the angry voices win out, he just ends up internalizing the monologue and in the end, submitting to it.
On October 08 2012 10:16 phosphorylation wrote: In any case, the way to combat this sort of systematic racism (perceived or otherwise) is not to bow down to it but to become such a badass that it does not even matter. Of course, easier said than done, especially in such unfavorable environment.
It's really a much more complicated issue. Even a success story like Jeremy Lin faces racist sentiments and flack despite his level of success, and it begs the question as to why we should permit such inequalities in the first place (to draw a SC2 analogy, even if Fruitdealer was good enough to overcome the flaws of a terrible map pool in the first GSL, that doesn't justify keeping maps like Steppes of War or Jungle Basin in the map pool - while some people may point to the complexity of Fruitdealer's story as mentioned in that very well written TL article, that proves my point in displaying why certain individuals succeed in very contingent circumstances, and why those contingencies are not sufficient to address a generalized plane of inequality). Plus, it presumes the potential to succeed in the face of such systematic problems, when sometimes, the problem is inherently embedded within the social structure in the first place. Consider the role of Asian Americans in media - it's a self-reinforcing problem, lack of Asian-Americans in media lead to less exposure which lead to conscious or subconscious reluctance to accept Asian-Americans into the media.
valid points; i did over-simplify the issue a little -- but i maintain that this is by far the most productive attitude to have as an individual. as a collective, i agree that some of these problems need to be tackled at the fundamental core.
Yeah, I agree with you there. I just think that comments in this blog have been overly hostile towards the OP. People in general seem to have this knee-jerk reaction to any comments on things like racism, which seems to stem from the mantra of viewing the world as colorblind, when the reality of things are quite different. There was an interesting Newsweek article, "Is Your Baby Racist?" that pointed to studies where children grew up more tolerant when parents actively pointed out racial differences but explained them, rather than smoothing them over. In light of this, along with my personal knowledge gained from critical race studies and class studies courses, I think it's important for the OP to be able to express his views without getting shat on by a flood of angry reactionaries. He needs to be able to air his views in order to engage in dialogue with more reasonable views (like yours) in order to grapple with identity and relations towards society. If the angry voices win out, he just ends up internalizing the monologue and in the end, submitting to it.
That was a good article, and I like your stance. But do you disagree with anything i've said? Or just the tone?
"because I’ve been taught by society than I’m the white man’s bitch" society didnt teach you to be a white mans bitch, you taught yourself that, because i doubt majority of asians consider themselves to be a "white man's bitch".
On October 08 2012 10:16 phosphorylation wrote: In any case, the way to combat this sort of systematic racism (perceived or otherwise) is not to bow down to it but to become such a badass that it does not even matter. Of course, easier said than done, especially in such unfavorable environment.
It's really a much more complicated issue. Even a success story like Jeremy Lin faces racist sentiments and flack despite his level of success, and it begs the question as to why we should permit such inequalities in the first place (to draw a SC2 analogy, even if Fruitdealer was good enough to overcome the flaws of a terrible map pool in the first GSL, that doesn't justify keeping maps like Steppes of War or Jungle Basin in the map pool - while some people may point to the complexity of Fruitdealer's story as mentioned in that very well written TL article, that proves my point in displaying why certain individuals succeed in very contingent circumstances, and why those contingencies are not sufficient to address a generalized plane of inequality). Plus, it presumes the potential to succeed in the face of such systematic problems, when sometimes, the problem is inherently embedded within the social structure in the first place. Consider the role of Asian Americans in media - it's a self-reinforcing problem, lack of Asian-Americans in media lead to less exposure which lead to conscious or subconscious reluctance to accept Asian-Americans into the media.
valid points; i did over-simplify the issue a little -- but i maintain that this is by far the most productive attitude to have as an individual. as a collective, i agree that some of these problems need to be tackled at the fundamental core.
Yeah, I agree with you there. I just think that comments in this blog have been overly hostile towards the OP. People in general seem to have this knee-jerk reaction to any comments on things like racism, which seems to stem from the mantra of viewing the world as colorblind, when the reality of things are quite different. There was an interesting Newsweek article, "Is Your Baby Racist?" that pointed to studies where children grew up more tolerant when parents actively pointed out racial differences but explained them, rather than smoothing them over. In light of this, along with my personal knowledge gained from critical race studies and class studies courses, I think it's important for the OP to be able to express his views without getting shat on by a flood of angry reactionaries. He needs to be able to air his views in order to engage in dialogue with more reasonable views (like yours) in order to grapple with identity and relations towards society. If the angry voices win out, he just ends up internalizing the monologue and in the end, submitting to it.
That is a very astute post; I can't stand the ubiquitous, generalized response of "color-blindness" to when someone talks about injustices due to his color -- particularly, this kind of response seems popular when the racism in question deals with the less archetypal cases, namely those directed against asians and not, for instance, african-americans. A typical progression of these type of response involves putting down the OP, as to suggest that it has to be some sort of deficiency in him -- what else can it be, in this perfectly just society? -- that is causing this "perception" of racism. I'd say these people are either too non-observant and nonchalant about things directly outside their sphere and/or have never received the short end of the stick -- so they casually spit out the popular narrative since this issue does not really concern them.
OK, there is also the remote chance that they are indeed such badasses that such things minimally affect them, if at all. And this being TL, I am sure such BAMFs do exist...
On October 08 2012 08:31 Elegy wrote: Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
Your counterargument is valid. However, have you ever seen a white female interested in an Asian man? Have you ever seen a white person get harassed by an Asian because he is white? Have you ever seen white people get beat up by Asian people? If you have, it definitely isn't as frequent as the reverse. I believe most people would agree Asians admire and bow down to whites more than whites admire and bow down to Asians.
You won't find many people around here who share those beliefs.
I think you misinterpreted him there. He isn't making a claim about how many Asians have an inferiority complex, rather that comparatively speaking, there are more Asians who "bow down" to whites than the vice versa. Which, unfortunately, I think is a true statement, particularly when you look at some of the Asian countries.
I think the OP has a huge inferiority complex. You need to stop thinking like that. It's just a self-fulfilling prophecy. America is a white person's country (built by white people) but other than that, there's nothing stopping you. Asian kids these generations are just as tall as white kids, the Western culture of working out has been starting to be ingrained in Asian kids and I see a lot of white girls interested in Asian men (no, not just anime lovers). Get a grip man, seriously. As a fellow Asian American, you need to stop putting yourself down.
EDIT: Ok, the OP's name explains it. Not to mention he's in high school.
On October 08 2012 11:48 phosphorylation wrote: I think you misinterpreted him there. He isn't making a claim about how many Asians have an inferiority complex, rather that comparatively speaking, there are more Asians who "bow down" to whites than the vice versa. Which, unfortunately, I think is a true statement, particularly when you look at some of the Asian countries.
It's true to an extent, especially because America is built by White people while Asian people are relatively new in terms of generational immigration. If a white family went to live in Japan right now, wouldn't that family feel compelled to follow Japanese society rules and try to fit in? It's not until 3rd or 4th generation until the members of the family feel like that country is their country, and they begin to really try to develop their lost ethnic ties with their origin country.
On October 08 2012 10:16 phosphorylation wrote: In any case, the way to combat this sort of systematic racism (perceived or otherwise) is not to bow down to it but to become such a badass that it does not even matter. Of course, easier said than done, especially in such unfavorable environment.
It's really a much more complicated issue. Even a success story like Jeremy Lin faces racist sentiments and flack despite his level of success, and it begs the question as to why we should permit such inequalities in the first place (to draw a SC2 analogy, even if Fruitdealer was good enough to overcome the flaws of a terrible map pool in the first GSL, that doesn't justify keeping maps like Steppes of War or Jungle Basin in the map pool - while some people may point to the complexity of Fruitdealer's story as mentioned in that very well written TL article, that proves my point in displaying why certain individuals succeed in very contingent circumstances, and why those contingencies are not sufficient to address a generalized plane of inequality). Plus, it presumes the potential to succeed in the face of such systematic problems, when sometimes, the problem is inherently embedded within the social structure in the first place. Consider the role of Asian Americans in media - it's a self-reinforcing problem, lack of Asian-Americans in media lead to less exposure which lead to conscious or subconscious reluctance to accept Asian-Americans into the media.
valid points; i did over-simplify the issue a little -- but i maintain that this is by far the most productive attitude to have as an individual. as a collective, i agree that some of these problems need to be tackled at the fundamental core.
Yeah, I agree with you there. I just think that comments in this blog have been overly hostile towards the OP. People in general seem to have this knee-jerk reaction to any comments on things like racism, which seems to stem from the mantra of viewing the world as colorblind, when the reality of things are quite different. There was an interesting Newsweek article, "Is Your Baby Racist?" that pointed to studies where children grew up more tolerant when parents actively pointed out racial differences but explained them, rather than smoothing them over. In light of this, along with my personal knowledge gained from critical race studies and class studies courses, I think it's important for the OP to be able to express his views without getting shat on by a flood of angry reactionaries. He needs to be able to air his views in order to engage in dialogue with more reasonable views (like yours) in order to grapple with identity and relations towards society. If the angry voices win out, he just ends up internalizing the monologue and in the end, submitting to it.
That was a good article, and I like your stance. But do you disagree with anything i've said? Or just the tone?
I disagree with your points. I think you focus too much on blaming the OP ("you are racist as shit") instead of working through his ideas in a constructive dialogue. It's partly tone, but also partly content, since you form your message in a way that only addresses him personally and not him in relation to the society that he lives in, and you are too quick to dismiss the idea there may be some truth to his view that society has some racism (although how he should deal with it is an entirely different question). While his youth does play a role, youths aren't solely defined by their sexuality, so it would be incorrect to label his issues merely one of needing to get laid (by a white girl).
On October 08 2012 08:16 fatfail wrote: Foreward: -I live in a relatively good community with rather high property prices. (it isn't a ghetto by any means) -I live in a primarily Asian community. -I currently go to high school.
As a Chinese American, I am wondering why do people always admire Caucasians? All the Asian girls in this region (possibly everywhere) struggle to get white boyfriends. Asian boyfriends are a “last resort” and are stepping stones to better (and whiter) things. Additionally, white people who call Asians chinks never experience retaliation while calling a white person anything slightly derogatory will result in possibly getting attacked. Thank god the only classes I have had in which I encountered white people were PE and health. There aren’t many “normal” white people at my school. I define “normal” as does not get into fights, does not smoke weed, and cares about school and learning at least a little bit. Every white person seems to be the generic delinquent, loitering on campus for hours, smoking some pot with buddies, wandering the streets, skateboarding, and then getting home at 12, doing a half assed job on half of his homework, and then chatting with his Asian girlfriend until 3am. Additionally, old white women in cars sometimes honk and scream at my father for not yielding to them, even when he has right of way. This is a combination of the fact he is a “fucking chink” and he drives a ’97 civic. I find myself yielding to this pressure as well. For instance, last week I was watching something on my phone while standing on the sidewalk in the neighborhood. A white person came out of an adjacent home and told me to fuck off (because I am Chinese). I immediately ran away. However, had that been an Asian person, I probably would have reasoned with him and explained that I have the right to stand on the sidewalk because it is public property. A few weeks ago, a fat white woman in a car screamed and threated to kill me because I was riding my bike in the vehicle lane for a left turn, despite the fact I gestured left with my arm. This is completely legal and is required for the safety for both the cyclist and drivers. She screamed, “GET THE FUCK OFF THE ROAD, YOU DON’T OWN THE ROAD.” I immediately complied. You see, I fear white people. I think white people are better than me, even though I can’t bring myself to admit it. I just listen to them because they are white, and because I’ve been taught by society than I’m the white man’s bitch. In my subconscious, I think they are better than me in every way because they are white and I’m Asian. Are white people really better than me? Maybe. They are taller, have more angular facial features, are stronger, are more athletic, and are faster than Chinese people. They have been pwning eastern society’s military, economy, and society ever since the Ming dynasty. This has caused me to continually consider the nature of this superiority. Are whites really the master race and is that why I am the white man’s bitch? Or am I actually just as good as the white man, and I’ve just let my weak peers influence my perspective of the world? This is something to think about, and maybe some of you guys can give me an answer.
Was going to 7/10, but it's already page 3 with serious discussion. So 9/10. Well played.
On October 08 2012 08:31 Elegy wrote: Everything in this blog is anecdotal evidence based on a biased local sample of a handful of occurences, hyperbole, exaggeration, and selective bias...no, white people are not better than you.
I'm white...are Asian people really better than me? Maybe. They are smarter, harder workers, economically successful and have extraordinary discpline and cultural codes of ethics. They are better at things involving hand-eye coordination, ping pong, and badminton.
My guess is for every bad experience you've had with a white person, you attribute it to racism or view it with a racial slant. That is a bold assumption to make about your experiences...
I believe most people would agree Asians admire and bow down to whites more than whites admire and bow down to Asians.
You seem bitter because you had a few bad experiences and asian girls won't pay attention to you allegedly because you're not white. Replace the word "white" with any other minority in your blog and you would be banned for being absurdly racist lol
On October 08 2012 10:31 Bswhunter wrote: Dude come to Australia. Very multicultural, no redneck pricks trying to enforce their beliefs.
To be perfectly honest, it's a mix of both how you think and how society is in the United States. I think that Asians are the latest arrival of immigrants starting with the Chinese and Japanese, and then Koreans, Vietnamese, etc. The fact of the matter is, discrimination is everywhere for minorities of any nation or race. I'm Asian and I admit, when I go to a white neighborhood, I feel a bit out of place, but that's it. If anyone would pick on me for being Asian, I don't give a fuck who they are, I'll fight back and defend myself (verbally physically if I have to). The most important thing that people seem to forget, is that it's usually inside your head. Just remember, stand up for yourself, fuck the others. You are fatfail (I'm sorry I don't know your actual name) before you are a Chinese American. Stand up for your identity, your existence. Don't let anyone assert themselves over you. You have JUST as much right as they do to do whatever the fuck you want.