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Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 23:09:27
September 29 2012 22:46 GMT
#1
Hey, TL. It's been a while. I haven't forgotten about you, but I have mostly forgotten about SC2. News of HotS once again brought me here, and, after browsing around a bit, I decided to post an unfinished segment of part of a blog I had been working on several months ago. It was the result of one too many late night Lovecraftian readings and may or may not be entertaining to people who are not me. This section was the introduction; there is a second part that would have contained the pictures and replays and all that jazz. I would have to reinstall SC2 and look through all the replays for screen caps again to post it, so don't count on it any time soon. Just posting this to say that I didn't die or get institutionalized or anything.

If you have no idea who I am or what the hell I'm talking about, you can see my older blog posts here. Relevant entries are the ones starting with "Worker Rush" or "Bronze."

Bronze: Ex Oblivione

It had been months since I dared venture into the Bronze league. I think those months had been happier ones for it. The portal remained open, the Battle.net account still active, but I had resisted. Other games, other activities altogether, had proven saner alternatives more suited to my recent tastes and I had, until recently, almost succeeded in putting Bronze out of my mind entirely.

There is something uniquely, indescribably awful about that place which one imagines would not lend itself to repeat visitations. Each trip down seems to irreparably mar the soul with the bizarre occurrences and horrid implications one is forced to endure during his stay. Why then, fully knowing and readily admitting this terrible truth to myself, can I go no longer than the span of a few months before the pangs of some twisted longing to return begin to gnaw at the edges of my consciousness and lead me to where I know full well no man should tread? Why do I suffer myself these repeated anguishes? Any petty treasures I once sought in that abyss are no longer of any importance to me. Any academic points have long since been made. Only the compulsion remains.

New readers of mine may not understand the trepidation with which I broach the borders of this abominable league. Avid readers, or at least those dedicated enough to have also read the replies to my work, will know that one of the most common responses my detractors have to offer is the simple, albeit misguided, refutation, "who cares? They're just newbies. Let them have their fun." These are the retorts of those who do not know. Those knowledgeable few among us, those who have themselves descended into the depths and gazed with their own eyes the hellish void that encompasses this league know better than to proffer such platitudes. Of the few fellow adventurers I have met down in the deep, they have, to a man, corroborated my sentiments. We have all felt the wretchedness, although, admittedly, others seem less susceptible to its effects, for I have witnessed them arrive and depart with an apparent will of which I cannot help but be somewhat envious. Perhaps due to the nature of my initial, prolonged visitation and the analytical, documentary attitude I took therein, I have gone, in some part, mad.

I consider it among my failings that I have still not, in any of these entries, adequately described just why both the journey and the destination are so cryptically loathsome. At times, I feel I have gotten near, but complete clarity in the matter has proven elusive. Extended exposure may have rendered me incapable of such clear thinking on the matter. My perception of the depths has agglomerated into an intangible jumble of uncountable perplexities, only a few of which stand out as depraved enough to merit written accounts. It is not these drastic instances alone that create the awfulness, though, but rather the gestalt of the illimitable psychical bewilderments I have endured.

I suppose I cannot say Bronze is unlike any other place, for I have not been to all other places. For all my knowledge, the world might very well be filled with similarly malign recesses and frightening abysses. Perhaps anything can be delved sufficiently deep in to that a primal horror will make itself known to the digger. However, I can speak only on what I know, and though I wish I did not, I know Bronze. So I shall again attempt to explain the root cause of this eldritch terror before retelling some of the specific instances whence it manifested.

In this Starcraft Tartarus, there exists a hideous dualism that, once understood, serves to permanently scar the mind. This dualism makes itself known when one has both seen the Bronze awfulness that I have exemplified over the course of these blogs and then also realizes that the Bronzies, as I have taken to calling the league's denizens, are, for all other intents and purposes, not altogether dissimilar from ourselves. I imagine that, as anyone else is, they are in possession of all usual human appendages and one functioning human brain with which to direct their course. The madness contained in Bronze cannot be explained through sheer force of idiocy or physical deformity. That is too safe, too tidy a conclusion regardless of how much comfort one would enjoy in taking refuge in it. Mere idiots, on their own, could not create such a vast and unexplainable domain.

As an outsider traversing Bronze, it often feels as though I am wading through a waking nightmare of inescapable proportions. As is commonplace inside such terrifying dreams, its setting is, upon cursory examination, familiar. It does look like Starcraft, after all. But after some time, one begins to perceive a phantasmal taint afflicting this pseudo reality. Just as a nightmare wherein a friendly apparition might metamorphose into an abhorrent monster, so too do the people I encounter in Bronze seem unfixed and transient in nature. One moment amiable, the next hostile. Joyful, then miserable. Sane, then insane. As in the realm of nighttime fantasy wherein one may fly, move through solid objects, or otherwise defy physics, so too do the normal rules of Starcraft seem inapplicable to this singular domain. Bronze defies all rational expectation to the point where it becomes logical to assume the existence of the illogical.

Worse than all this lunacy is the unsettling fact that the native inhabitants seem to be unaware of it. If you were to ask one of the Bronzies how he ended up in such a place, he would respond, with bewilderment, "wat u meen?" For them, this madness is normal. For them, losing to a worker rush is not something to be ashamed of, but instead just… something. For them, it is standard procedure to cease entirely the production of workers after a mere dozen. For them, their possession of an irrational, childlike fear of all things outside their own base is wholly unremarkable. All precepts of generally accepted Starcraft reason are completely foreign and totally unknown in this deep, forgotten, hole.

Perhaps most vexing of all is the ease with which one can wake from this apparent nightmare. Despite the overbearing madness, it has been proven that all it takes to leave this dreamlike netherworld is a few dozen 4 gates before one meets the argent light of the league above. When one simultaneously realizes the ease of escape from and continued existence of this place, the next level of horror reveals itself as those concurrent states open for the thinker a veritable Pandora's box of questions for which there exist no answers acceptable to the rational mind.

Bronze is not a town or district which, due to the persistent nature of reality, will remain permanently on Earth in one form or another, whether peopled or desolate, thriving or ruinous. Bronze is defined by the people within it, not its location. And so the question lingers: Do these people choose to be there? Why do they not leave? Is their madness wanton? Why do they persist in such a state of seeming obliviousness toward any progress the outside world makes? To these base questions I have been able only to scratch upon the surface and reveal the faintest impressions of hints of answers.


***
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
September 29 2012 22:55 GMT
#2
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."

- H P Lovecraft, "The Call of Bronze League Cthulhu"
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
September 29 2012 23:02 GMT
#3
On September 30 2012 07:46 Gheed wrote:
My perception of the depths has agglomerated into an intangible jumble of uncountable perplexities, only a few of which stand out as depraved enough to merit written accounts.


SO. GOOD. Just one of the most hilarious sentences I have ever read. I miss you Gheed =(
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
September 30 2012 00:17 GMT
#4
Liked your earlier blogs but this one kind of missed the mark. Verbosity =/= eloquence and while I got the point I was just kind of hoping it would end by the 3rd paragraph.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 02:07:48
September 30 2012 02:06 GMT
#5
I felt that this was a 'lets see how many large words I can get away with' blog. When you can obviously use simplistic words to describe things then do it, all large words achieve is a forced slowdown of the read. I was bored because the pace was wrong.

Also the immense question talking? Was bad? I didn't like it?
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
September 30 2012 02:42 GMT
#6
So many big words... TT
Definitely got bored of it, and it kind of seemed to all say the same thing: bronze sucks and you are going crazy being there. Which is an exaggeration anyways.
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
spacebob42
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
September 30 2012 02:44 GMT
#7
I saw Gheed blog and dropped everything to read it.

Did not disappoint.
Go big or go home.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
September 30 2012 02:50 GMT
#8
Read some Lovecraft if you're complaining about the way he wrote it... it's on purpose.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
September 30 2012 03:22 GMT
#9
Definitely can tell you've been reading some Lovecraft. I enjoyed this one, for its own sake.

To be fair, you have to realize the stupidity of starcraft is all relative, for the most part. I look at gold and even platinum players and get completely mind-fucked by some of the decisions, or anti-decisions, if there can be such concept, that they make sometimes. Granted, it isn't nearly as all-encompassing as what you see in bronze, (and I haven't spent nearly as much time playing gold/plat players as you have with the so-called "Bronzies") but there is still some pretty inane shit. You see things that hint at a certain understanding of some aspect of the game, then something that completely undoes that understanding 30 seconds later. It's pretty impressive, in its own way.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
September 30 2012 03:35 GMT
#10
On September 30 2012 11:50 corpuscle wrote:
Read some Lovecraft if you're complaining about the way he wrote it... it's on purpose.

Is anyone who hasn't heard of lovecraft supposed to know this? Or relate to it?
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
September 30 2012 03:52 GMT
#11
On September 30 2012 12:35 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 11:50 corpuscle wrote:
Read some Lovecraft if you're complaining about the way he wrote it... it's on purpose.

Is anyone who hasn't heard of lovecraft supposed to know this? Or relate to it?


I don't know, it's hard to figure out whether I'd find it amusing if I didn't get the reference being made... I can see why you would find it kind of tedious and strange if you don't "get it" though.

That said, just because some people don't get the point doesn't make it a bad one.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
September 30 2012 04:07 GMT
#12
Incredibly eloquent, and hilariously compelling read. How is it that geniuses can write about one subject for 400 words plus while keeping their piece enticing?

Seriously.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
September 30 2012 04:11 GMT
#13
Ahaha I've missed these, saw gheed, clicked immediately!
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
September 30 2012 05:45 GMT
#14
Oh thank god!
I though you were dead Gheed.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 07:34:44
September 30 2012 07:11 GMT
#15
On September 30 2012 12:35 galtdunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 11:50 corpuscle wrote:
Read some Lovecraft if you're complaining about the way he wrote it... it's on purpose.

Is anyone who hasn't heard of lovecraft supposed to know this? Or relate to it?

You don't have to have read lovecraft to appreciate gheeds writing. You just have to have taste.



Mere idiots, on their own, could not create such a vast and unexplainable domain.

This is how I feel about most things. So I thank you for illuminating the world in a bronze light.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
DLChucklesSP
Profile Joined September 2011
Spain16 Posts
September 30 2012 07:25 GMT
#16
I also felt while reading it that it was very lovecraftian, I guess that was the aim. Very good writing nonetheless
FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 07:51:23
September 30 2012 07:51 GMT
#17
wow, this blog reads so well. So...do you still worker rush bronzies these days?
Formerly known as carbonaceous
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 30 2012 11:06 GMT
#18
On September 30 2012 16:51 FakeDouble wrote:
wow, this blog reads so well. So...do you still worker rush bronzies these days?

....so you didn't read the blog?
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
September 30 2012 13:02 GMT
#19
Hilarious..though it does drag on a bit too long for my tastes.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
September 30 2012 13:21 GMT
#20
Gheed <3 Install the game, we need more of the sadness and hilarity that is bronze.
The Bomber boy
SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
September 30 2012 13:40 GMT
#21
well, there has to be 20% of people in Bronze regardless if everyone was pro or not, right?
"terrible, terrible damage". terrible, terrible design.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 30 2012 14:07 GMT
#22
Great read as usual, love your stuff.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
September 30 2012 15:42 GMT
#23
--- Nuked ---
Gaius Baltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
September 30 2012 17:20 GMT
#24
On September 30 2012 07:46 Gheed wrote:
For them, losing to a worker rush is not something to be ashamed of, but instead just… something.

I saw the sea of madness. When the demented winds howl, take down thy trusted mast. But jump thee not into the water.
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
September 30 2012 18:31 GMT
#25
On September 30 2012 22:40 SEA KarMa wrote:
well, there has to be 20% of people in Bronze regardless if everyone was pro or not, right?

Careful, you will hurt yourself if you continue to try and grapple with bronze using rationality.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Weebem-Na
Profile Joined May 2010
United States221 Posts
September 30 2012 23:58 GMT
#26
I read this on my lunch break then about 2 hours later I giggled about this part here:

"For them, losing to a worker rush is not something to be ashamed of, but instead just… something. For them, it is standard procedure to cease entirely the production of workers after a mere dozen. For them, their possession of an irrational, childlike fear of all things outside their own base is wholly unremarkable. All precepts of generally accepted Starcraft reason are completely foreign and totally unknown in this deep, forgotten, hole."
The reaction of boron-11 and plain hydrogen produces all its energy in the form of charged particles which can be directed by a magnetic field, but the reaction is very difficult to sustain and many fusion physicists doubt it will ever prove practical
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 01:07:08
October 01 2012 00:59 GMT
#27
gheed,
when i read your other blogs, i was struck by your word choice and sentence construction.
your style of writing was fascinating. you talk with the attitude of a surly teenager and use sentences that wouldnt be out of place coming from an english professor. it was awesome. i loved it

but this blog takes all that to the next level, and then some. im completely blown away by the way you wrote this blog. the vocabulary and sentence structure you use is incredible. it screams intelligence and sophistication... in a blog about n00bs who suck at a particular video game.

you weild the english language like a god, and you use that power not for good or evil, but for giving teamliquid an in depth analysis of the one place none of us want to be.

i am in awe.
My religion is Starcraft
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
October 01 2012 03:03 GMT
#28
On October 01 2012 03:31 EatThePath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 22:40 SEA KarMa wrote:
well, there has to be 20% of people in Bronze regardless if everyone was pro or not, right?

Careful, you will hurt yourself if you continue to try and grapple with bronze using rationality.



hahaha


Yeah I think the question isn't necessarily "why is there still bronze?" but "why is bronze THIS bad?". I mean D/D- ICCUP had players who were mostly functional and knew lots of basic things about starcraft and made rational decisions. Bronze is just a stochastic abyss of complete disregard for reason or intelligence.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 01 2012 03:10 GMT
#29
On October 01 2012 00:42 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 11:50 corpuscle wrote:
Read some Lovecraft if you're complaining about the way he wrote it... it's on purpose.

Ke$ha's music is on purpose. It does not mean that it is good.

Are you calling Lovecraft's work bad? I just want to know where you stand on this.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
October 01 2012 04:58 GMT
#30
Nice blog as always, would have liked some ingame screens though =/
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
sanddbox_sc2
Profile Joined October 2011
United States173 Posts
October 01 2012 06:27 GMT
#31
On October 01 2012 09:59 snively wrote:
but this blog takes all that to the next level, and then some. im completely blown away by the way you wrote this blog. the vocabulary and sentence structure you use is incredible. it screams intelligence and sophistication... in a blog about n00bs who suck at a particular video game.

you weild the english language like a god, and you use that power not for good or evil, but for giving teamliquid an in depth analysis of the one place none of us want to be.

i am in awe.


No offense but it seems like you're impressed by the fact that he uses a lot of big words. That's great, but the verbosity was pretty unwarranted and just detracted from the writing in general. It's the same kind of writing you see from kids who spent all summer doing SAT prep - essentially a regurgitation of every possible big word out there.

Still, though, Gheed was clearly doing it intentionally, so I guess that somewhat justifies it, but I found it more tedious than anything else.
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 10:24:59
October 01 2012 10:22 GMT
#32
On September 30 2012 16:11 EatThePath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 12:35 galtdunn wrote:
On September 30 2012 11:50 corpuscle wrote:
Read some Lovecraft if you're complaining about the way he wrote it... it's on purpose.

Is anyone who hasn't heard of lovecraft supposed to know this? Or relate to it?

You don't have to have read lovecraft to appreciate gheeds writing. You just have to have taste.



Most presumptuous thing I've read in a long while. You mean "You have to have MY taste."

On the subject of the blog, I don't agree with a lot of your conclusions but you do make me read to the end which is always a sign of good writing. Some lines were funny, only complimented by their needless complexities.

EDIT: too harsh
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tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 16:40:18
October 01 2012 16:38 GMT
#33
Haha reads just like Lovecraft, strange!! Some of the best writers you will ever read, Lovecraft, Howard, Sprague De Camp, etc.

EDIT: It's intentionally written that way peeps, get out more, go to library, leave your town for a while.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
October 01 2012 22:34 GMT
#34
On October 01 2012 15:27 sanddbox_sc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 09:59 snively wrote:
but this blog takes all that to the next level, and then some. im completely blown away by the way you wrote this blog. the vocabulary and sentence structure you use is incredible. it screams intelligence and sophistication... in a blog about n00bs who suck at a particular video game.

you weild the english language like a god, and you use that power not for good or evil, but for giving teamliquid an in depth analysis of the one place none of us want to be.

i am in awe.


No offense but it seems like you're impressed by the fact that he uses a lot of big words. That's great, but the verbosity was pretty unwarranted and just detracted from the writing in general. It's the same kind of writing you see from kids who spent all summer doing SAT prep - essentially a regurgitation of every possible big word out there.

Still, though, Gheed was clearly doing it intentionally, so I guess that somewhat justifies it, but I found it more tedious than anything else.


its ok, im not insulted by the fact taht you told me im only impressed by big words. and since im not insulted i wont reply with something offensive about your mother and/or your sexual preferences
My religion is Starcraft
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25979 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 03:05:36
October 02 2012 02:05 GMT
#35
Haha this was great! For me the juxtaposition of such verbosity with such a trivial subject matter makes it all the more hilarious.

Wish I could write like yourself Gheed, wp sir, wp.
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phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
October 02 2012 03:37 GMT
#36
Felt like reading a 1960s supreme court opinion. Call me a cave man but i prefer practicality to eloquence. Couldn't finish.
Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
October 02 2012 03:37 GMT
#37
I've been following this blog from the beginning and while this one takes a somewhat different route then your normal blogs I still found it just as amusing.
All play and no work makes Jack unemployed.
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
October 02 2012 04:30 GMT
#38
Come back Gheed! (but you don't have to stay in bronze)

Loved the blog as usual, I haven't read any Lovecraft, but I certainly enjoyed the writing style regardless.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 13:54:07
October 02 2012 13:45 GMT
#39
This was an awesome read, but I couldn't help but notice the lack of use of the word nameless (and you might want to throw antediluvian in there as well)

Edit: For those of you who still haven't noticed, this is basically what it would look like if H.P. Lovecraft wrote a blog about starcraft. Anyone who has ever read the works of Lovecraft will know that he liked to use these "big" - and often somewhat archaic - words (according to Lovecraft himself, he would fit better into colonial-age America than the early 20th century he lived in). If you want to get into Lovecraft (which i highly recommend), I suggest you start with the short story Dagon, as it is very typical for his writing style - and really good as well
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 02 2012 14:02 GMT
#40
I enjoyed it The thing that got tedious for me was not the words but the abundance of commas. And appositives? Anyways, I loved all the uncommon and/or archaic words.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 14:36:01
October 02 2012 14:35 GMT
#41
Was really good even and you really imitated really well the way Lovecraft tries to describe the unknown
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Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
October 03 2012 02:08 GMT
#42
Truly the most philosophical piece of literature describing Bronze League. You have my respect.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States447 Posts
October 03 2012 22:40 GMT
#43
I keep re-reading this giving you the benefit of the doubt, and telling myself that there is something clever in between the lines that I don't understand. Why did you change your writing so much for this one? The way you wrote before resonated much better. This one sounds like you got fucked by a thesaurus and shat out an illegitimate child. I'll continue suspending reality because I don't want to believe that the man I respect so deeply could think this is change for the better. Hope to read more soon.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
October 05 2012 05:42 GMT
#44
Heh, Glad you're back
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
October 08 2012 23:28 GMT
#45
Gorgeous.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
October 10 2012 00:32 GMT
#46
Loved the blog, as I love all your blogs, I don't have a problem with the big words because I do crosswords and there were no words in the blog I hadn't seen before, just had to look up Tartarus to make sure I knew where you were going, but it could be implied from context. Anyway, keep 'em coming.
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
Cormaximus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States13 Posts
October 11 2012 00:55 GMT
#47
Gheed! Come back, we miss you oh so very much.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10228 Posts
October 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#48
On October 01 2012 12:03 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 03:31 EatThePath wrote:
On September 30 2012 22:40 SEA KarMa wrote:
well, there has to be 20% of people in Bronze regardless if everyone was pro or not, right?

Careful, you will hurt yourself if you continue to try and grapple with bronze using rationality.



hahaha


Yeah I think the question isn't necessarily "why is there still bronze?" but "why is bronze THIS bad?". I mean D/D- ICCUP had players who were mostly functional and knew lots of basic things about starcraft and made rational decisions. Bronze is just a stochastic abyss of complete disregard for reason or intelligence.

I wonder... Time to start where Gheed left off.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10228 Posts
October 18 2012 19:50 GMT
#49
On October 19 2012 00:17 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 12:03 Drowsy wrote:
On October 01 2012 03:31 EatThePath wrote:
On September 30 2012 22:40 SEA KarMa wrote:
well, there has to be 20% of people in Bronze regardless if everyone was pro or not, right?

Careful, you will hurt yourself if you continue to try and grapple with bronze using rationality.



hahaha


Yeah I think the question isn't necessarily "why is there still bronze?" but "why is bronze THIS bad?". I mean D/D- ICCUP had players who were mostly functional and knew lots of basic things about starcraft and made rational decisions. Bronze is just a stochastic abyss of complete disregard for reason or intelligence.

I wonder... Time to start where Gheed left off.

Results so far are... Interesting...
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
November 12 2012 08:31 GMT
#50
On October 19 2012 04:50 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 00:17 Jealous wrote:
On October 01 2012 12:03 Drowsy wrote:
On October 01 2012 03:31 EatThePath wrote:
On September 30 2012 22:40 SEA KarMa wrote:
well, there has to be 20% of people in Bronze regardless if everyone was pro or not, right?

Careful, you will hurt yourself if you continue to try and grapple with bronze using rationality.



hahaha


Yeah I think the question isn't necessarily "why is there still bronze?" but "why is bronze THIS bad?". I mean D/D- ICCUP had players who were mostly functional and knew lots of basic things about starcraft and made rational decisions. Bronze is just a stochastic abyss of complete disregard for reason or intelligence.

I wonder... Time to start where Gheed left off.

Results so far are... Interesting...



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