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theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
July 17 2012 04:13 GMT
#21
"Made this a blog because I don't want unnecessary drama"

Sure, dude.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
July 17 2012 04:16 GMT
#22
why in bw time nobody offer iccup power leveling service =P .
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 17 2012 04:24 GMT
#23
lol not cool, dragon
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
July 17 2012 04:26 GMT
#24
lol if kids are stupid enough to want their account leveled to show off, then let them waste their money. Also, a lot of things are against ToS, doesn't stop people..Sound modding, color modding, etc.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 17 2012 04:32 GMT
#25
Its obvious this is against the EULA and TOS, but he hacked before, so why would this be any different. I'm not into player bashing, but he has a bad history in the game, he was damaged goods when he came to SlayerS_ and then he left in a rediculous manner with tons of drama and now HE, not the OP, Dragon is looking to make a quick buck because he is half decent at SCII and can't really win a large tournament now. I find this wholly unacceptable in that it steals spaces in GM, it ruins peoples experiences when HE plays and trolls them which pretty much gets rid of the point of having a ladder system that pits you against people your level, ruining other experiences. Thats not the same as a smurf or port farming, those people who smurf do it to relevel an account so they shoot up, dragon would pretty much be port farming into mid masters, which most people look down on. This may as well be a mirror image of my previous post, but this is not an acceptable behavior for a pro.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 04:55:30
July 17 2012 04:54 GMT
#26
On July 17 2012 13:32 docvoc wrote:
Its obvious this is against the EULA and TOS, but he hacked before, so why would this be any different. I'm not into player bashing, but he has a bad history in the game, he was damaged goods when he came to SlayerS_ and then he left in a rediculous manner with tons of drama and now HE, not the OP, Dragon is looking to make a quick buck because he is half decent at SCII and can't really win a large tournament now. I find this wholly unacceptable in that it steals spaces in GM, it ruins peoples experiences when HE plays and trolls them which pretty much gets rid of the point of having a ladder system that pits you against people your level, ruining other experiences. Thats not the same as a smurf or port farming, those people who smurf do it to relevel an account so they shoot up, dragon would pretty much be port farming into mid masters, which most people look down on. This may as well be a mirror image of my previous post, but this is not an acceptable behavior for a pro.


Good thing you're not into player bashing!

Also, I believe

On July 17 2012 13:32 docvoc wrote:
rediculous


would make the perfect TL;DR for both your post and this blog entry.
Resistance ain't futile
RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
July 17 2012 06:36 GMT
#27
I don't understand why everybody is so upset at the original post. I think it's a legitimate point to at least discuss. My 2 cents on the issue:

1. It's laughable that people pay to have their accounts leveled up
2. I am not surprised that pro players do it because typically SC2 is their only source of income
3. It should be a bannable offense

When I was still playing, some of my buddies regularly offered me to level my account up to high master or GM. But I always refused because I wanted to make diamond on my own. And I retired as soon as I made it because there was nothing left to achieve.
Teaching Chess to a Starcraft 2 Grandmaster: http://revtiberius.blogspot.ca
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
July 17 2012 06:38 GMT
#28
Only a fool would pay for this because they're going to tank it back to their skill level and then have lost $20+ for nothing LOL
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Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
July 17 2012 06:45 GMT
#29
I have a friend that payed to get his account to grandmaster, but hes an idiot.

Hasn't Dragon been doing this forever? I tuned into his stream months ago, and stopped watching when he was stomping silver-gold players and getting the accounts higher ranked. If he can take peoples money, more power to him.

If we want to talk about blizzards ToS, teamliquidTV casts uses the strong team color mod, so teamliquid obviously isn't against all and every ToS breach. This is much different, so depending how they feel, they can do as they choose. I don't see how its hurting anybody (except a few people in GM), and im sure he needs the money since progaming is not profitable.

Yes, you were trying to start drama, if you didn't want drama you wouldn't post this at all.
In Mushi we trust
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 17 2012 07:08 GMT
#30
I wonder how many games Bronze to GM averages for Dragon... that seems cheap for how long it must take.

Also "Made this a blog because I don't want unnecessary drama"?

Yeah you do.
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 17 2012 07:12 GMT
#31
On July 17 2012 15:36 RevTiberius wrote:
I don't understand why everybody is so upset at the original post.


Well... I reread the OP and you are right. It didn't occur to me that the PL offer was so transparent, so I guess there's nothing to be angry at with OP blog.

Apologies, cheers.
Resistance ain't futile
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
July 17 2012 07:14 GMT
#32
Those prices are retardedly low imo. Even though he's winning 100% of his games from bronze to GM that still takes a long time. I would hope his time is worth more than a mere $110 for that.

Also, once GM is full he won't be able to get people in I hope he realizes. He should charge way more for that and do it right at the beginning of the season.

And yeah, while idc about him leveling people to masters. I think going all the way to GM is unethical because it takes slots from others who might actually deserve the spot.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 07:32:45
July 17 2012 07:32 GMT
#33
On July 17 2012 11:21 Ruscour wrote:
So my question to you, the reader, is:

- do you have a problem with Dragon doing this?

- do you think this could have negative consequences for Dragon and/or Millenium?

- should Team Liquid enforce that streamers aren't allowed to advertise services against Blizzard TOS?



No; No; No. And I wouldn't even count myself as a Millenium fan (old national rivalries).

Blizzard's TOS are stupid, I think everybody agrees on that. Even the courts in various countries.
So I don't see TL in the responsibility to reinforce them.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 17 2012 07:45 GMT
#34
To address comments like "if you didn't want drama then why post this" etc, I'm trying to raise awareness about a potentially serious issue without causing a shitstorm. If I wanted to create drama, /r/starcraft would be all over this shit.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
July 17 2012 07:54 GMT
#35
I don't get it-what's the point in power leveling when you're not as skilled as the others at that level?
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
July 17 2012 07:57 GMT
#36
Personally I don't see anything wrong with powerlevel. Pros need a little extra money, there's nothing wrong with that. If the players paying for the service is inactive, then they get demoted off GM. If they actually play games and isn't capable of hanging with GM, they would get demoted.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353266
Go here and express yourself about powerleveling. You're just singling out Dragon >_<
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
July 17 2012 08:24 GMT
#37
- do you have a problem with Dragon doing this?
I think it's bad for the game so yeah. I don't think Dragon should be punished or anything, but I would prefer if he didn't do it, it definitely makes me less of a fan.

- do you think this could have negative consequences for Dragon and/or Millenium?
Dragon might lose some respect and fans, but otherwise, no. It's not a big deal.

- should Team Liquid enforce that streamers aren't allowed to advertise services against Blizzard TOS?
I don't think it would help, the streamers would still advertise it elsewhere and I seriously doubt TL would like to remove streams like Dragons from the list just because of minor things like this.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 08:52:53
July 17 2012 08:52 GMT
#38
I personally don't have a problem with it, but blizzard obviously does as they banned an account of HuK/TLO as you said.
As for the guy above saying he will lose fans, he definitely won't. His fans actually prefer him trolling wood league players with mass ravens and stuff as opposed to tryharding on GM ladder
Dunno what Mill. would think about it though.
Vestrel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada271 Posts
July 17 2012 09:20 GMT
#39
I don't think he's charging enough.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
July 17 2012 12:23 GMT
#40
I don't get why people like Dragon. Just because he makes funny faces on his stream or something? He pretty much either smurfs and acts like a douche to low league players, or powerlevels accounts. Not to mention he was a confirmed cheater that promised not to be a progamer ever again.. And then turns around and does.
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