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so... ladder as protoss

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-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 00:35:04
May 27 2012 00:30 GMT
#1
It goes:
+ Show Spoiler +
PvP

+ Show Spoiler +
PvP

+ Show Spoiler +
PvP, PvP

+ Show Spoiler +
PvZ

+ Show Spoiler +
PvP

+ Show Spoiler +
PvZ

+ Show Spoiler +
PvP PvP PvP

+ Show Spoiler +
PvZ

+ Show Spoiler +
... PvT! :O.... scv all in

+ Show Spoiler +
PvP

+ Show Spoiler +
PvP

+ Show Spoiler +
PvP

+ Show Spoiler +
-ragequit- play diablo 3


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Sorry I just have to rant D: I would like Starcraft 2 so much more if the ladder system didn't do this. Blizzard should realize people would enjoy laddering more if they had a more even distribution of matchups queued.. I feel like there are ways they could tweak it to prevent these long mirror-matchup streak's. As much as I play the ladder to improve, I also play it for fun.. and going on tilt because you have to all in in every PvP because you want to queue again and hope for a terran/zerg is NOT fun... I'm not really exaggerating that much either, most days I do get streaks of 6+ PvPs in a row and only 1-2 PvTs the whole day (and I'm lucky if the terran is nice enough to just play standard so I can refine my builds).

o and sorry for making you click all of the spoiler tabs, i actually like clicking them.


****
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
May 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#2
i once had 7 PvPs in a row against the same guy - 5 of which were on Tal'darim ^^
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 00:34:52
May 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#3
I think the spoiler tabs actually made for a nice touch.


On May 27 2012 09:34 green.at wrote:
i once had 7 PvPs in a row against the same guy - 5 of which were on Tal'darim ^^


WHAT? What was the final score? Who won?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 00:46:29
May 27 2012 00:36 GMT
#4
lol I chain-queue into the same protoss a lot too, we're both so angry after the game cause we had to play a stupid PvP that we both rush to spam click "Find Match" again at the same time..

anyways to elaborate on why i hate PvP right now since I know some people like it... the late game is incredibly boring and coin-flippy despite what Oz has said about it requiring skill (which is true early-mid game). Nearly all macro games will just be both of us sitting on 3 base going double robo colossus while teching to certain things. If I rush to a really fast mothership and get a vortex off I win, but he gets a clutch feedback on my mothership he wins, if he has more colossus in a battle with no motherships he wins.. if I didnt have cannons in my mineral lines and he drops a bunch of dts in my main he wins..just stupid stuff like that. you can't scout easily as both protoss will have an obs with their army.

There are no little battles like a zealot archon PvT where you can out multitask/ make better decisions than your opponent, it's just a few huge battles that decide the whole 20+ minute game, and those battles largely are influenced by risks the two players took because of the lack of effective scouting.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
May 27 2012 01:02 GMT
#5
That's because everyone plays Protoss. TvT on ladder is so rare both players are like "wow a terran, I thought I was the only one left!"
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 01:35:11
May 27 2012 01:07 GMT
#6
On May 27 2012 10:02 ShadowDrgn wrote:
That's because everyone plays Protoss. TvT on ladder is so rare both players are like "wow a terran, I thought I was the only one left!"

Funny thing is, most times a Terran wins, Diamond or higher, I'm sure they get BM'd about how easy Terran is and how bad they are. Quite ironic.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
GlintFox
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States275 Posts
May 27 2012 01:14 GMT
#7
Lol 5 stars, i laughed pretty hard by the time I got to the last spoiler.
"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful… the strong… the weak… the innocent… the corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally." -Darth Maul
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
May 27 2012 02:17 GMT
#8
On May 27 2012 10:02 ShadowDrgn wrote:
That's because everyone plays Protoss. TvT on ladder is so rare both players are like "wow a terran, I thought I was the only one left!"

Actually i've been getting lots of TvT's lately (diamond EU).
HypernovA
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada556 Posts
May 27 2012 04:22 GMT
#9
And people are surprised by this? People learned to stop 1/2 base timings, Terran late and early game
Keeps getting nerfed and TvP is a nightmare to play late game. Do you really expect Terrans to stick around? TvZ is just as bad but it's slightly better
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 05:32:31
May 27 2012 05:32 GMT
#10
On May 27 2012 13:22 HypernovA wrote:
And people are surprised by this? People learned to stop 1/2 base timings, Terran late and early game
Keeps getting nerfed and TvP is a nightmare to play late game. Do you really expect Terrans to stick around? TvZ is just as bad but it's slightly better

You heard the man. /thread
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
May 27 2012 06:21 GMT
#11
There's been less terrans on ladder for months now, not really matchmaking's fault.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
May 27 2012 06:50 GMT
#12
I played 8 zvzs today and 1 zvp. The zvp was a cannon rush.



I swear ladder just forces a fuck ton of mirrors on you.
Nible
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden85 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 10:38:12
May 27 2012 10:36 GMT
#13
On May 27 2012 15:50 Odal wrote:
I played 8 zvzs today and 1 zvp. The zvp was a cannon rush.



I swear ladder just forces a fuck ton of mirrors on you.

YEA! Blizzard hates us and Blizzard needs us to be miserable while playing their games >:|. We should be playing EA's games instead!

In Platinum league, yes that am I, and, I shall not deny. | 对不起我的中文不好
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
May 27 2012 14:09 GMT
#14
On May 27 2012 15:50 Odal wrote:
I played 8 zvzs today and 1 zvp. The zvp was a cannon rush.



I swear ladder just forces a fuck ton of mirrors on you.


No !
I'm Terran I haven't played a single mirror match this week ( ~30 games )
When I face a terran I don't know what to do because I never play against this race
I'm often playing while speaking with a friend on skype , he is terran too , he has the same problem !
every terran seem to have the same problem ^^' no body plays terran anymore or what ?
rly ?
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
May 27 2012 14:27 GMT
#15
My thoughts exactly. I get really bored of ladder and havent played in a week because of pvp.
Long live the Boss Toss!
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
May 27 2012 14:36 GMT
#16
Well everyone hates on us poor terrans so eventually we stop playing. You know, if you all would be a bit more friendly .. maybe we will come back.

Flowers would be nice too, once in a while.
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I said it in the beta, terran requires the most micro even though everyone said that it was the easiest. With the patches it made it even harder. I am NOT saying that terran is too weak, I am just saying that terran is too hard for people with mediocre mechanics. At least that is how I feel.
Where is my ACE flair
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 27 2012 15:12 GMT
#17
Expect this trend to continue.
Sup
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
May 27 2012 15:58 GMT
#18
Personally, I just stopped laddering after I lost about all my TvP's and TvZ's that went late game. Why even bother I thought, when I have to win early or face extreme difficulty in late game.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
May 27 2012 17:41 GMT
#19
good one! Story of my ladder life haha
Live and Let Die!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 27 2012 21:56 GMT
#20
I must be the only Protoss who complains about too much PvT...
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