The Single Dumbest Thing About Diablo III - Page 2

On May 25 2012 03:10 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Using the auction house already makes you so much stronger even with the ten item limit.

I feel like these statements have some inconsistency:

When you are adventuring, you are killing monsters and getting loot. When you're trading, you're only getting loot. So you're fulfilling the point of the game only when you're adventuring. Trading is supplemental to the game that, when used at the proper times, can get you loot more efficiently.

D2's trade system was very time consuming. D3's trade system is far less time consuming. And even less time consuming would be your hypothetical free and unlimited auction house. But you've got to draw the line somewhere. If there was some super smart system that automatically traded for you while you were adventuring so that you suddenly lost items you didn't need and got gold or suddenly got items and lost gold, that would be ridiculous. When the whole community can perfectly optimize their loot and gold distributions, the game becomes too easy. The more easily you can trade, the more easily you can get your desired combination of stats. But it's pretty obvious to any D3 player that randomness is an enemy that you're constantly struggling against.

Asking for a better AH is asking for an easier game. It's much different than WoW because of the randomness of stats. The line must be drawn somewhere for design reasons and perhaps somewhere else for logistical and technical reasons, and then the line ends up somewhere and that's that.

I think if you accept the way it is and respect the fact that the AH is a limited resource that you must manage then you'll get along much nicer. If you use your 10 slots better than the next guy then you have an advantage, just the same way you use limited resources better than the next guy to gain an advantage in so many other ways.

On May 25 2012 03:14 Catch]22 wrote:


And you are paying €14 per month, so they can afford the extra servers.

On May 25 2012 03:59 Logo wrote:
The single dumbest thing in D3 is actually something else.

You can drag abilities off the hotkey bar. It has literally 0 use for 4/6 abilities and the only use for LMB and RMB is to make an ability slot back to auto-attack (though you can do this another way anyways). Good luck if you accidentally drag off something like ss during a battle. Granted it's not easy to accidentally do, but I have had it happen once or twice.

On May 25 2012 03:59 Logo wrote:
The single dumbest thing in D3 is actually something else.

You can drag abilities off the hotkey bar. It has literally 0 use for 4/6 abilities and the only use for LMB and RMB is to make an ability slot back to auto-attack (though you can do this another way anyways). Good luck if you accidentally drag off something like ss during a battle. Granted it's not easy to accidentally do, but I have had it happen once or twice.

On May 25 2012 05:19 javy925 wrote:
Limiting the auctions to 10 is fantastic. I don't want to sift through a bunchy of shitty rares because people have unlimited auctions. I always use at least 2 of the optional filters when I'm searching for an item and it still takes a while to find something good amongst the trash, even with the 10 auction limit. The prices of items have also substantially dropped since last week because people have realized it's not worth waiting 2 days for an item to sell, so they reduce their prices 25-35% to get a quick sale. If you have 10 items sitting for 2 days not being sold, then that means you have no idea how to price your items.

On May 25 2012 06:31 jacosajh wrote:
Ten items is very low. But I'm also glad I don't have to spend a few hours updating AH like I did with WoW.

I also like the lock-out because it discourages undercutting, to the point where items become completely worthless.

On May 25 2012 08:27 FFGenerations wrote:
the best "auction house" ive experienced was where you set up a personal stall with your character in whatever location you like (eg town centre or outside a dungeon), drag max 10 items, and then wait for someone to come browse your stall

there was no searching, no auto price matching/advice. if you wanted to be competitive you had to run around everyone's stalls to research what was going on and then set your own prices , pick the most competitive items , and position your own stall. you needed to dynamically and constantly research what was going on around you and the person who got the edge was the person who done the most research, browsed the most stores, noticed and remembered little details.

WoW's auction house blew my mind. what was the point of it? i mean gameplay-wise, after what i had experienced?

i had all sorts of fun with things like undercutting people by opening my stall next to them with cheaper items, or browsing stalls for an hour and being rewarded by finding some super cheap items that would have been sold in an instant via these automated auction houses

On May 25 2012 05:43 Heh_ wrote:

You referring to me? Haha. One thing I realized about auctions is that the buyout price is really important. People want items instantly and not wait for 1-2 days, during which they might get level up or get a better item. The minimum price thingy is pretty useless; all my items have either been bought instantly or unsold after 2 days. Spend a bit of time to research market prices and your items will sell like hotcakes.

On May 25 2012 09:15 Heh_ wrote:

Now do you want to search around 20000 stores to find a single item? Yeah that sounds really practical. I think that Blizzard should have used this concept, then no one would use the AH.