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Your Opinion on Stream Sniping

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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 07 2012 19:48 GMT
#1
Now stream sniping is a thing which immediately creates thoughts of "what a douchebag" in most people. But, what about a different form of stream sniping. What if you are stream sniping someone because you really want to practice against them?

To make things clear, you are using their stream only to time your hitting the queue button - no stream cheating is allowed. Turn that stream off the moment you hit queue.

I've done this before, with the aim of queuing into people within my MMR range but who are without a doubt a lot better than me and will beat me 90%+ of the time. As it so happens, I actually have a 0% win rate so far in these stream snipes lol, but I enjoy it because it's good practice for me. It's one thing to have a replay of a pro to study, and another thing to have a replay of a pro where you're the opponent.

So what do you think about sniping to practice, with no bm'ing or anything, not trying to cause rage like the traditional stream sniping. I personally view it as a form of flattery, that I would especially want to practice against them. What do you think?

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Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1976 Posts
May 07 2012 19:53 GMT
#2
Everyone does it, even pros among themselves. This one time when I was stream sniping TLO I would always instead be matched with CN!MoMaN who was doing the same thing.

If you don't look at the stream (stream cheat) and you're not BM, there is no problem I think.
I wouldn't do it 5 times in a row though.
geiko.813 (EU)
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 07 2012 19:53 GMT
#3
On May 08 2012 04:48 EtherealDeath wrote:
What if you are stream sniping someone because you really want to practice against them?

Then ask them to play customs with you.

If they don't want to practice with you, then that should tell you whether or not you should be stream sniping.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
May 07 2012 19:53 GMT
#4
Sniping doesn't seem very bad to me, but some people also stream cheat and that's where the problem lies.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 07 2012 19:54 GMT
#5
On May 08 2012 04:53 Geiko wrote:
Everyone does it, even pros among themselves. This one time when I was stream sniping TLO I would always instead be matched with CN!MoMaN who was doing the same thing.

If you don't look at the stream (stream cheat) and you're not BM, there is no problem I think.
I wouldn't do it 5 times in a row though.


I only do it once or twice max a week vs any one guy.
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
May 07 2012 20:08 GMT
#6
Pros doing it is probably a really good thing. At least on the NA ladder, most of the time pros are facing some random people that are way below their skill. You're getting a better game anyways. I think most people just hate when people like CombatEX do it just to harass people and/or get a bunch of games with one person in a row.

It's also nice for the viewers, you get to see some matchups you might never see. A mid-tier pro player can snipe one of the top players and have a game when they probably would never meet in a tournament because he would always get knocked out early on.
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
May 07 2012 20:57 GMT
#7
So long as it's not more than once vs someone during a stream, and as you say isn't being used for cheating I personally have no issue with it what so ever. The important thing is that it doesn't disrupt the quality of the stream for the viewers or the streamer themselves, which means no channel plugging, spamming, OTT BM, continually sniping or whatever. If you meet them by chance then sure, act how you want, but if you snipe someone intentionally and then do that you're an ass.

That's basically my thoughts.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 07 2012 21:19 GMT
#8
Can you explain the term "stream sniping" to me? If I understand it correctly it's not the same as watching or listening to the stream while playing against the streamer?
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 07 2012 21:21 GMT
#9
On May 08 2012 06:19 beetlelisk wrote:
Can you explain the term "stream sniping" to me? If I understand it correctly it's not the same as watching or listening to the stream while playing against the streamer?

Watching their stream so you can search when they search and thus dramatically increase your chance of playing them.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 07 2012 21:35 GMT
#10
Thanks.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 07 2012 22:48 GMT
#11
I dont see the issue. its not cheating at all. Maybe if the person your sniping asks you to stop and you refuse then your kind of a douche, but I dont see anything wrong with it at all. If your in their MMR range then presumably you should be playing him/her anyway.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 23:40:45
May 07 2012 23:39 GMT
#12
As long as you don't go all Deezer on everyone, I don't see the problem.

Related:

Go to 5:40 for the definition of "going Deezer".
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1312 Posts
May 08 2012 01:38 GMT
#13
What about both players stream sniping each other but they didnt know that the other player was doing it?
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imanoobcs
Profile Joined January 2012
184 Posts
May 08 2012 06:15 GMT
#14
How does it help you get better by watching their stream to match their build? Not everyone plays the same. I would think that it would be worse for your play. To each their own.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 08 2012 11:06 GMT
#15
On May 08 2012 15:15 imanoobcs wrote:
How does it help you get better by watching their stream to match their build? Not everyone plays the same. I would think that it would be worse for your play. To each their own.


That's stream cheating not stream sniping lol
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