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Hey,
Simple question, how did you deal with your first full-time job?
I'm 23 and I was never employed before. I was a student and during summer I rather worked around our house and garden than some manual part-time job others usually do.
4 weeks ago I started working full-time. Unlike usual hiring process, this went down pretty fast. Wednesday I sent CV+letter, Thursday I was invited for interview, Friday I did interview+tests and in 2 hours they called me I had the best results and asked if I can start working on Monday. They gave me 3 hours for decission. One of the hardest decissions I had to make (girl, studies, end of my basicly 2 year holidays) , but eventually I accepted.
But to my question - ever since the first day, my day consists basicly only of working and sleeping. I'm logistics planner in one of the biggest computer/electronics company and mentally it's very demanding. You have to analyse shitloads of data, make decissions, solve different problems. I wake up around 6:30am, and get back from work around 5pm. I'm so dead and brainwashed that I don't even want to talk to anyone and around 10:30pm I'm already in my bed (for last 5 years I would go to bed at 2am and wake up at 10-11am). In the last four weeks I also barely watched any starcraft. Goodbye waking up to GSL matches, eh. But it's not only matter of time, I just feel like losing all the interest I've ever had in starcraft. Normally I'd just turn any tournament or players' stream on, now I just go to TL to see if there's any interesting news (ffs, even TSL4 announcement didn't get me as before  ) and to check funny pictures thread. I hope today's/tomorrow's KESPA/Blizz/OGN announcement will draw me into the SC world again.
Anyway..besides the loss of interest in SC2, did any of you had to deal with what I described? Will it get better?
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You will eventually get used to it, and also enjoy the weekends or days off you get, they help a lot. Once you get used to it, you will build a routine that will let you enjoy the things you used to. Sorry I couldn't be that much assistance.
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Hello,
Also 23, started full-time employment since last July, so I've been in the routine for 10 months now. In the first few months it was just wake up -> work -> play a game or two (usually up to two games, three max) -> sleep (before midnight!) -> repeat, with the meals in between. All the social aspects of life got pushed to the weekends. Also, I stopped watching live events in Korea unless they were over the weekend.
The same continues today, but I've been fitting in a decent workout routine after work. Still, in the weekdays, hard to do anything else really. Try to do more in the weekends! That's what weekends are for! Catch up on VODs, read TL (unless you can do that at work like me right now), invite friends over for LAN (that's right, SCBW forever! up yours SC2!), whatever works for you.
*edit: 5/5 for the fellow full-time worker
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Russian Federation1849 Posts
Do you like having money more than you enjoyed having lots of free time? I am curious as I never worked full-time and I feel like free time is the best fucking thing that can happen to you. :D
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It hit me exactly the same. For my first job, I came back from one year of backpacking in Australia to a 45 hour workweek in a very fast-paced environment with loads and loads of information to soak up. For the first two months, I'd just commute, eat, shop for food and work. It got better then, I started socializing with my coworkers a bit (we'd have one evening a week, were all of us would leave work exactly on time and meet up for some squash and beer/sauna afterwards) and I picked up my gaming habit - Diablo 2 - again  .
You will also learn to prioritize things better at work, so it will be less stressful. Of course, depending on the 'depth' of the job, the time required for this will be a bit different. Working in a call-center, it might be a week, software development I have heard 3-6 months to get really productive and one of my friends builds power plants, he tells me even after three years he has to ask his senior colleagues at least once every week about something he has no clue about.
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It will get easier, much like a game of SC, you will learn how to prepare and react accordingly to your schedule. I too work a full time job and am working on my own SC projects, and it gets hard to juggle a life (which now that you work will consist of a lot more things to want to do), a job and a hobby/passion. Once you get your sleep and energy levels balanced, you will be able to make time for other things besides eating and showering. Stick with it, it sounds like you have a good and presumably a decent paying job considering your work load.
Best of luck and Cheers
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Maybe you just have to do something that feels different from work. I imagine you are on the computer all day at work so it's natural that you wouldn't want to watch the GSL or play any games when you get home. I had the same issue so I picked up some other hobbies and that has helped me de-stress from work.
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I am with Hemula on this one.
Also makes me remember, why not split work? No more unemployment and more free time for ya'll.
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You're probably making bank, so enjoy life on the weekends!
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I am in my last year of college for my undergrad degree, not sure if I'm going to do post grad or not. Never had a job or anything in my life and I have no idea what I'm going to do after this year.
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You know you are allowed to ask for more time right. If you were genuinely one of the best canidates they've seen in a long time, a reasonable company shouldn't mind if you request a few days to a week to consider this and other offers.
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Work smarter, not harder.
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You get used to it, it's pretty harsh on the first 2 months but you will build your new rotine and that's it.
That's how it feels being a productive member of society.:p
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On May 02 2012 06:23 antilyon wrote:
You get used to it, it's pretty harsh on the first 2 months but you will build your new rotine and that's it.
That's how it feels being a productive member of society.:p
That's how it feels being a worker drone
Yeah you get used to it. You really appreciate your leisure time.
But every so often you get the niggling idea in the back of your head...'In the unknowable infinity of the universe, for the smallest amount of time I am alive, I am conscious, I can experience this small corner of the majesty creation. And I'm spending most of my waking moments in this fucking place for a reason I cannot comprehend.'
Luckily those moments of existential dread don't stick around for too long 
For myself though, I do erratic shift work so I don't really settle into any routine and my hours very often allow me to have a daily social life. Often I do a 6am-4pm, and afterwards I've got time to go have a few drinks with friends or something before going back to bed again at 10.
It's exhausting, but it's worth it to make the time.
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On May 02 2012 05:07 Rimstalker wrote:
You will also learn to prioritize things better at work, so it will be less stressful. Of course, depending on the 'depth' of the job, the time required for this will be a bit different.
That's a good point, but I want to elaborate on that. During those 4 weeks I've been working I already learnt to prioritize things better at my personal life. I used to be TERRIBLE procrastinator, not only with studies, but generally. Now I feel like even with just few hours after work and weekends I'm managing to do more things than before. You also learn to appreciate and enjoy your free time much more.
On May 02 2012 05:02 Hemula wrote:
Do you like having money more than you enjoyed having lots of free time? I am curious as I never worked full-time and I feel like free time is the best fucking thing that can happen to you. :D
It's not about money. It's about future, I already feel like I'm behind others of my age because I didn't have any working experience before. I was trying to get an internship in PWC before, I made it to last 3 persons, they told me I had the best results+others chose me as a person they'd like to work with the most, but I lack experience.
On May 02 2012 05:41 Zidane wrote:
You're probably making bank, so enjoy life on the weekends!
Oh, man, how wrong you are. They pay is extremely shitty (around average wage in my country), considering what I do for the company (I basicly optimise logistics process of LCD monitors in whole Europe). But as I said, money aren't that important to me, I hope it will open more doors in future and I'm sure If I do this job somewhere else, I will get paid much more. On the other hand, there's lot of people who can't find in my region, and the fact is I just finished undergraduate studies and have no experience, so I would hardly find a job that would pay more.
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Yeah man, I'm in the same situation as you. The job you're currently working at will no doubt open some doors for ya though. I reccomend you get up early and exercise as, believe it or not, it gives you more energy throughout the day. You can come home feeling more fresh after you have a regime that includes a light jog or something. May improve your gaming/sex life
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It is a scam. That is how they make you unable to resist the hegemony of capitalism, by wearing you down and taking all of your free time and energy alienating your labor and producing surplus value for the capitalist, in the vague hope that something will get better in the big ponzi scheme that is your life.
Turn on, tune in, drop out
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Ha, I just saw that you are in CZ. Don't take any bullshit from HR and check your work contract and every single monthly statement very, very thoroughly. Don't believe any of the bullshit they feed you about transferring abroad through some official program the company has, the only way to land a job abroad is to become good friends with ppl there.
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You basically described the life of every working class citizen.
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Current almost 25. I joined the Air Force at 19. I have little free time. Work from 9-12 hours a day depending on what type of work I have to do. Also I am trying to finish my bachelors degree while working full time. Also I am married so I spend time with my wife. A pro gaming SC2 career is nowhere in my future, but I still play a couple games if I have time.
Thank God I dont have any kids. If you are still in High School enjoy it while you can. Work really isnt that fun for me or paying bills.
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On May 02 2012 05:02 Hemula wrote:
Do you like having money more than you enjoyed having lots of free time? I am curious as I never worked full-time and I feel like free time is the best fucking thing that can happen to you. :D
Keep in mind that the amount of time you need to spend working just to break even and pay the bills from month to month varies dramatically from place to place around the world. Not all countries have a nice, well-established balance between work and life.
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Anyway..besides the loss of interest in SC2, did any of you had to deal with what I described? Will it get better?
Nope. Unless you find an easier job where you don't have to do anything or quit.
You just learn to appreciate the weekends and days off a lot more.
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On May 02 2012 06:42 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 05:07 Rimstalker wrote:
You will also learn to prioritize things better at work, so it will be less stressful. Of course, depending on the 'depth' of the job, the time required for this will be a bit different. That's a good point, but I want to elaborate on that. During those 4 weeks I've been working I already learnt to prioritize things better at my personal life. I used to be TERRIBLE procrastinator, not only with studies, but generally. Now I feel like even with just few hours after work and weekends I'm managing to do more things than before. You also learn to appreciate and enjoy your free time much more.
I just wanted to say that when I worked last summer full time (not the first time I was doing full time), I lived alone but I still found myself much better able to manage my time. I felt accountable to arrive at work and so didn't play as long. I also woke up every weekday because I had work. And When I got to work, I was always working or looking for work. 7 hours a day. I took my lunch hours off though.
Then when school started, I think I managed to stay focused for the first semester but I should have done better in operating systems. I almost failed that. And then this semester got worse. I think my productivity is linked to whether I have a scheduled job.
I didn't have the so called problem you had of not doing anything enjoyable though. I took my work home last summer and also got my Paladin to level 70+ in diablo 2 untwinked single player. If anything I had a lot of free time compared to the hellish workweeks of second year computer engineering. I'm mad I didn't spend it better with my best friend or with a girl.
I've never had a job for longer than four months but I just wanted to share what I could.
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put up with it for 3-5 years
acquire the experience
develop expertise/leadership skills to the point where head hunters constantly try to poach you
start dictating terms and conditions that are needed to keep you at a company or attract you away from one
or
just find something you really like to do and be happy
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On May 02 2012 04:30 ondik wrote:Hey, Simple question, how did you deal with your first full-time job? I'm 23 and I was never employed before. I was a student and during summer I rather worked around our house and garden than some manual part-time job others usually do. 4 weeks ago I started working full-time. Unlike usual hiring process, this went down pretty fast. Wednesday I sent CV+letter, Thursday I was invited for interview, Friday I did interview+tests and in 2 hours they called me I had the best results and asked if I can start working on Monday. They gave me 3 hours for decission. One of the hardest decissions I had to make (girl, studies, end of my basicly 2 year holidays) , but eventually I accepted. But to my question - ever since the first day, my day consists basicly only of working and sleeping. I'm logistics planner in one of the biggest computer/electronics company and mentally it's very demanding. You have to analyse shitloads of data, make decissions, solve different problems. I wake up around 6:30am, and get back from work around 5pm. I'm so dead and brainwashed that I don't even want to talk to anyone and around 10:30pm I'm already in my bed (for last 5 years I would go to bed at 2am and wake up at 10-11am). In the last four weeks I also barely watched any starcraft. Goodbye waking up to GSL matches, eh. But it's not only matter of time, I just feel like losing all the interest I've ever had in starcraft. Normally I'd just turn any tournament or players' stream on, now I just go to TL to see if there's any interesting news (ffs, even TSL4 announcement didn't get me as before ) and to check funny pictures thread. I hope today's/tomorrow's KESPA/Blizz/OGN announcement will draw me into the SC world again. Anyway..besides the loss of interest in SC2, did any of you had to deal with what I described? Will it get better?
Oh man. Summer job and I wake up at 6 and get home at 6:30 since I stay too late at work. I am so dead when I get home. Now the only time I actually have time is the weekends. You were right OP. I must have forgotten how tiring a full time job is. I feel like I don't really do that much at home even though I do have 3.5 hours free every day to browse the web and play a few games. Perhaps I should stop playing on the weekdays. And going home earlier.
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I also just started my full time life. (Just finished 3rd week) I also wake up at 630 but I am home around 430-500 depending on the day.
I have found that I have gotten surprised how much my schedule has changed. Now I tend to get to bed around 12-1am and that is enough sleep for me. But I have no school obligations (class/hw) in the evenings or over the weekends. And I find that I have more money to go out and enjoy the things that I like doing such as taking a girl out to a nice date instead of feeling like im breaking the bank each time.
Its a transition. But I know its for the better.
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Natural part of growing up and going into the real world. Unfortunately staying awake till 2am and all that stuff ain't to last forever. I left that behind after high school and started working full -time. Though now I'm at university I have a lot more time to do that stuff but I don't spend it on video games. It just doesn't feel the same as it did when I was 15.
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Don't get married... that's a second full time job. I can't even practice SC2... *sigh*
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Reading this really makes it sound sort of sad... worker drone, rat race, etc. T_T
It's your typical boring routine of going to work, coming back drained of life and deprived of all your time sort of idea... and it's coming sooner than we think and it does sound pretty monotonish/suckish ;__; sigh
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half the time you feel knackered like this is because your learnign thigns about the job, once you know where everything is what t do etc you willl get into some sort of sync and you will feel a lot better. Working in Insurance ehre and to begin with I knew nothing and every day was hard, stressful and id go home tired... now I have another job at night, working out and also doing a degree in my spare time, would never of been able to do any when I first started! you will get there!
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It is time for you to move away from active income and try going the passive income route.
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On June 02 2012 17:15 Tommylew wrote:
half the time you feel knackered like this is because your learnign thigns about the job, once you know where everything is what t do etc you willl get into some sort of sync and you will feel a lot better. Working in Insurance ehre and to begin with I knew nothing and every day was hard, stressful and id go home tired... now I have another job at night, working out and also doing a degree in my spare time, would never of been able to do any when I first started! you will get there!
How you even can do this is beyond me.
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On June 03 2012 04:38 ElizarTringov wrote:
It is time for you to move away from active income and try going the passive income route.
What does this even mean? Going on welfare? Somehow becoming a rentier? Good work if you can get it, I guess.
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On June 04 2012 13:05 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 04:38 ElizarTringov wrote:
It is time for you to move away from active income and try going the passive income route. What does this even mean? Going on welfare? Somehow becoming a rentier? Good work if you can get it, I guess.
He means starting a business and making money even when you are sleeping. People all around the world can order your products when you are sleeping.
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Oh, I see. I guess I feel like the world has enough products already.
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I work full time at 18. I finished highschool and decided to myself that I would either go into a trade, which would be plumbing or painting (plumbers make so much money here its insane… painters not so much) and if I couldn’t find an apprenticeship in a few months that I would study. This mostly came from not knowing what I wanted to do and not wanted to commit all my cash to studying.
As I was going to study and almost booking into a degree, because I had no luck in any of my interviews due to no physical labour experience (which I didn’t really know if I wanted or not) I got a call telling me I should come into my local cities office and be interviewed for a traineeship. At first I kind of said to the lady that I applied for this a good while ago and that I was probably going to study instead.
She told me to just come in and be interviewed and that I gain a small qualification from it at the end of my year. I kind of just thought what the hell and went in. I basically admin in a planning branch, I get paid below average pay. But I kind of like it, its given me a lot of perspective in life, I most probably will study at the end of this traineeship unless something more interesting comes up for me.
At first I found it really annoying that I could barely play games and if I ever slept early I felt like I wasted my night and was annoyed at myself for it, which is weird but yeah. I still feel like that in a way, but the people at my work are beyond nice and slowly I’m losing the urge to play games but I will never stop being a nerd!
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I'll be 26 this month but I've been working fulltime for 2 years now. Personally, I don't really know how to cope still, I guess kids today are just lazy. It feels like work literally takes up all your time, even if you have several hours free time afterwards, you're tired and it ends so quickly. For me, it's all about enjoying weekends to the fullest and then try to at least get some fun in every day after work. Playing SC2 has become impossible for me, I simply do not have the energy and motivation to do something competitively after work, and playing it only on weekends isn't enough to get good for me.
Only one thing to do: Hope for 6 hour workdays in the near future.
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Been working fulltime for a year. Pretty much come to grips that I will no longer have the time I used to have. And I will no longer have the energy to do whatever I want during my free time. There are just some days when I don't feel like doing any competitive gaming when I get home from a long day at work. You'll just learn to love the weekends more I guess. And maybe you'll have an increased appreciation for single-player games.
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