EPTMy Experience @ Sloan Sports Analytics Conference - Page 2
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NeonFox
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Condor Hero
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ggahSoO
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On March 07 2012 03:29 ggahSoO wrote: Great read! :D UIUC hwaiting You UIUC? I just graduated last spring haha | ||
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rkshox
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Hamzilla
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YMCApylons
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cma1681
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On March 07 2012 04:46 YMCApylons wrote: The problem with streaming practice is that it gives other teams a look on what you're working on, your adjustments. Can't the same be said for sc2? The teams could stream specific practices where they aren't working on set plays, but stream scrimmages instead. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i'm still annoyed at how points against is used as the basis for determining the strength of a defense. why they don't use baskets per possession is beyond me. i remember being laughed at for using that stat during the d'Antoni Suns days, when i was trying to say they actually had good defense because they allowed less points per possession then most teams; they just had more possessions in the game by 10-20. and it's not like this is something new either, i read dean smith's coaching book and he writes about that same thing. when i think about the positional chemistry paper, it really makes me wonder how far behind the press is in terms of statistical analysis. | ||
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Paladia
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prodigalsun
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Myles
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Anyways, as a Magic fan, the positional chemistry paper reinforces something I felt for a while - despite adding arguably better players, they actually made us worse. And I can totally see Van Gundy saying something like that. The GM of the Rockets being an esports fan is incredibly awesome, too. I never thought someone like him would be into esports. | ||
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cma1681
United States59 Posts
It's funny, I originally wrote this for a few friends on our college SC2 team who were curious about the conference, and one suggested I post it to TL. I never thought so many people read the blog sections. Wow! | ||
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rebdomine
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holy_war
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On March 07 2012 07:37 kainzero wrote: i always thought stats in the NBA were way behind. at least the stats they use in the press; i'm not sure what coaches and teams actually use. i'm still annoyed at how points against is used as the basis for determining the strength of a defense. why they don't use baskets per possession is beyond me. i remember being laughed at for using that stat during the d'Antoni Suns days, when i was trying to say they actually had good defense because they allowed less points per possession then most teams; they just had more possessions in the game by 10-20. and it's not like this is something new either, i read dean smith's coaching book and he writes about that same thing. when i think about the positional chemistry paper, it really makes me wonder how far behind the press is in terms of statistical analysis. That's why defensive stats like Defensive Efficiency and Opponents True Shooting Percentage are being used more and more by basketball analysts. The same goes for Player Efficiency Ratings on offense. APBRmetrics (Basketball's equivalent of Sabermetrics) are being used by more and more people like Daryl Morey and it's very interesting to see the long term results. | ||
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StarStruck
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cma1681
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That's why defensive stats like Defensive Efficiency and Opponents True Shooting Percentage are being used more and more by basketball analysts. The same goes for Player Efficiency Ratings on offense. APBRmetrics (Basketball's equivalent of Sabermetrics) are being used by more and more people like Daryl Morey and it's very interesting to see the long term results. Dean Oliver mentioned that currently, the go-to "good" NBA stat is plus-minus, because its easy for commonfolk to understand and can be put in a newspaper box score. It's such a flawed stat since you can bet Joel Anthony has a kick-ass +/- from playing with the Heat big 3, but it's what we got. Someone else mentioned that they have live cameras in many of the stadiums, which can track 3-dimensional coordinates of the ball, and of each player. Only very recently have teams started to analyze those, but it's difficult since SO MUCH data is collected in the course of a game. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
sidenote. can you punch john hollinger in the nuts, his shit on ESPN is so terrible | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On March 07 2012 12:17 holy_war wrote: That's why defensive stats like Defensive Efficiency and Opponents True Shooting Percentage are being used more and more by basketball analysts. The same goes for Player Efficiency Ratings on offense. APBRmetrics (Basketball's equivalent of Sabermetrics) are being used by more and more people like Daryl Morey and it's very interesting to see the long term results. perhaps, but why aren't these stats really publicized? after moneyball, OBP became a big stat, i don't see why better and more accurate defensive stats should be used during the broadcast. i think rebounding is a bogus stat too, when i used to play nba live/nba2k i'd get like 6 rebounds because i made 80% of my shots. after sunday's game, when i think of joel anthony and +/- all i can think of is his forehead. man, twitter was brutal to him during the game, lol. | ||
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cma1681
United States59 Posts
The majority of sports viewers are still having a tough time with more complicated stats. As terrible as rebounds are as a defensive stat, more rebounds usually still means better. Just like a higher BA means the player is better. Sometimes. | ||
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