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Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 20:17:50
February 28 2012 18:29 GMT
#1
So there was a Steam sale around 7-9 months ago and one of the items on sale was the "Doom complete pack". I had played the freeware version of the original Doom alot when I was a child. In fact, it was the first computer game I had ever played. I felt nostalgic and decided to buy the whole thing.

So what I got for the price of 8 euros?

Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Master levels for Doom 2, Final Doom, Doom 3 and Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil

Excluding the Doom 3 series, the other ones are pretty much the same game with different levels and monsters/guns(I´ll get to that later). In total, those "original Doom games" consist of more than 150 levels. I don´t think I`ve ever bought anything as cost-effectively.

Being a person who likes challenge in videogames, I decided to play through the older games with "Ultra Violence" difficulty. There actually is a harder difficulty level, Nightmare, where random enemies keep spawning as you kill them.(I still prefer UV, what is dead should, preferably, stay dead)

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Ultimate Doom Episode 1: Knee-Deep in the Dead

When the first level began and the music started playing...I smiled the whole level through...I mean, how can you not? I give you a link in the spoiler, it is a masterpiece+ Show Spoiler +
. Having played this episode hundred times it didn´t take too long. I was ready for the next one.

Episode 2: The Shores of Hell

I had not played these levels before, so everything from now on was new to me. There is one new weapon in this episode(The plasma rifle) and 2 new enemies (Cacodemons and Lost souls) as well as the boss monsters of episode1(Barons of Hell) are now normal enemies. The levels weren´t too difficult but still harder than the ones episode 1 had. At the end of the episode there also is a real bossfight, which was also cool.

Episode 3: Inferno

The last weapon the original Doom is introduced in this episode: The BFG9000. There are no other new enemies except the final boss of the episode. Again, harder than the previous ones but nothing I couldn´t handle.

Episode 4: Thy Flesh Consumed

Ok, here is where progressive difficulty scaling goes to Hell. This episode was harder than everything I had experienced before put together. I literally made it out of the first level with 2 hit points left as I ran past the few demons guarding the exit. Later I discovered that the hardest map of the Ultimate Doom was the second map of this episode. I made it eventually, thinking it wouldn´t get any harder than this. I was wrong.

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Doom 2: Hell on Earth

The basic gameplay of Doom 2 is exactly like the original, with new things added: (I´ll spoiler this to keep it clean)
+ Show Spoiler +
One new weapon, the Super shotgun, one powerup Megasphere and a bunch of new monsters:
-Chaingun Zombie
- Hell Knight(smaller version of Baron of Hell)
-Revenant(Skeleton with shoulder-mounted rocket launchers firing guided rockets)
-Mancubus(fat brown demon firing barrages of fireballs)
-Arachnotron(smaller version of the boss Spider Mastermind, fires plasma rounds)
-Pain Elemental(Round flying monster that spits out Lost Souls)
-Arch-vile(Spellcaster demon with high-damaging fire attack as well as power to resurrect dead monsters)

There are no episodes in Doom 2. Instead you just play around 30 levels straight. The difficulty increases pretty rapidly from easier early levels to slightly more harder than the episode 4 was. The hardest part for me was to learn how to deal with the new enemies. There are considerably more monsters in each level than in the previous game and the level design is more advanced.

Having completed Doom 2, the next thing in the list was Final Doom. Final Doom consist of 2 parts of 30+ missions: The Plutonia Experiment and TNT:Evilution. The game is essentially a map pack for Doom 2. I decided to play PE first.

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Final Doom: Plutonia Experiment
This set of levels is the hardest thing in these 3 games, clearly shown in these results of scientific research + Show Spoiler +
The Doom Difficulty Scaling-O-Meter

EP1<EP2<EP3<<<EP4<<Doom 2<<<<<<<<<<<<TNT:Evilution <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Plutonia Experiment

Eventually I made it. Every last one of those 422 Revenants is dead. Every...last....one...
Just to show you the most ridiculous map this set had, have a walkthgrough(not me playing)+ Show Spoiler +
.

Final Doom: TNT:Evilution

While not being as hard as Plutonia, these maps still were a challenge. The level design is more complex and a few times I got stuck for many minutes not knowing where to go next(maybe just me).

Finally I was done. I had beaten the original Doom series on Ultra Violence.

So onto this[image loading]

This game was released in 2004 and was considered to be one of the greatest achievements graphics wise up to that date. It still looks good.

The one thing that comes to mind for most people who have heard of Doom 3 is darkness. That game is dark. As in, it is hard to see things. Doom 3 is sci-fi/horror/survival fps that is known for pitch dark corridors filled with demons waiting to ambush the player. Player can still use a flashlight but not while using a weapon.

I had no expectations when starting this game. I haven´t really played any horror-games, classic Doom is not horror in my opinion. Overall, my experience turned out to be quite positive.

Unlike the previous games, this one also has an actual story in it: it is year 2145, UAC research center developes teleportation technology on Mars, something goes wrong, they manage of open a portal to hell, hell breaks loose, it is up to you to save the day.

When the game begins you(nameless, silent space marine without a personality) arrive in the UAC labs. After getting introduced to characters and walking around the labs for 15 minutes the action begins. You´ll get your first heart-attack around the 16 minute mark.

Difficulty levels in this game only alter the % of incoming damage from the enemies. I intended to play this with hardest one but after getting brutally murdered in the first level while having a pulse of 200 I did reduce it.

There are 27 levels in Doom 3, most of them are pretty linear, filled with dark corridors. There still is a reason to explore everything as the levels are filled with hidden ammo and weapons.
The gameplay is considerably slower in Doom 3 than in the older games and very repetitive(personally I dont really care, older Doom games are even more repetitive tbh)

Most of the classic Doom monsters and weapons can be found in the game as well as a bunch of new ones. The biggest change however is that Cacodemons are no longer cute+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading]
.

This game also has deathmatch-style multiplayer but nobody really cares about it at all.

Without making this a complete review Im just going to list a few more things liked and didn´t like in Doom 3 + Show Spoiler +

What I liked:
-Almost all of the weapons are fun to use
-Story
-enemies
-bosses
-interraction with control panels/security lockers
-PDAs

What I didn´t like:
-basic grenade is the most useless and badly designed weapon in the whole Doom-series
-the darkness(I did not hate it but still would prefer more light)
-slow gameplay(gets better later in the game)
-corpses of dead enemies disappear instantly

What I did not mind:
-Constant ambushes
-Scripted events
-(over)use of horror clichés


So all in all, I enjoyed the game. Total heart-attack count: 459.

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Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil

So the story continues with 12 more levels, translating to 3-5 hours of gameplay.
To keep this short, some new monsters and weapons(super shotgun is the best thing ever) and more fast-paced levels. Excellent expansion to the game. I finished this game today.

And now I´m done. Almost + Show Spoiler +
If you followed closely, I skipped Master levels for Doom 2. I have played some of them but not all of them yet. Very challenging and enjoyable levels



This pack costs 35e on Steam right so if you are interested in these games I suggest you to closely follow Steam sales in the future. You might get the best deal of your life.

****
AoD
EonuS
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovenia186 Posts
February 28 2012 18:38 GMT
#2
I'm one of those people who played doom when I was 3 years old aswell, good to hear I'm not the only one

if you are interested in playing oldschool doom online btw, check out skulltag

http://www.skulltag.com/

it is based on doom engine and has many interesting modders / map makers that know how to make the game even more fun

servers sometimes get upto 30 people, it's quite fabulous that there are so many people still playing the game even though it's so old
Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
February 28 2012 18:43 GMT
#3
Now go back to the top and read it again with this playing

QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 18:51:57
February 28 2012 18:51 GMT
#4
I was just thinking about running through the older dooms again the other day. I never played Final Doom too much. I always seemed to like Ultimate Doom the best.

Doom III was not my cup of tea at all. It kept on trying to be too much like Half Life imo. Supposedly the talks about D4 have been going back to the roots of the orginals with the fast paced shoot em up stuff.

my favorite parts were always the .midi music of the originals. God I love that stuff.
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CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
February 28 2012 19:07 GMT
#5
Awesome write up, thanks for posting this I played DOOM when I was a little kid, and it's partially due to that (and heretic, and quake) that my parents always have had the impression that video games are bad, haha. I think the games gave me nightmares back then! I bought the original Doom game on xbox live marketplace a couple of years ago and ran through that, it was awesome. Episode 4 was some fun stuff :D I beat Doom 3 around a year after its release, and wow that game made me jump a lot. The levels in Hell were super fun though. I still haven't finished beating Doom 2 and I've never played Ultimate Doom - it looks like I learned something new from your post, and I'll keep my eyes open for a sale on these games in the future. ^^
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
February 28 2012 19:22 GMT
#6
This takes me back. Doom was the best thing ever back in the day. I'll definitely watch out for that steam sale. I loved all doom parts. Especially the music was kick-ass. Even though (maybe because) it was so limited the tunes are awesome and stick to your brain. And the level design is, albeit complex, better than in most modern day shooters where you can only go in one direction and are held by the hand. Thanks for this OP.
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All Bogs
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands104 Posts
February 28 2012 19:42 GMT
#7
On February 29 2012 04:07 CakeSauc3 wrote:I still haven't finished beating Doom 2 and I've never played Ultimate Doom - it looks like I learned something new from your post, and I'll keep my eyes open for a sale on these games in the future. ^^


Keep in mind that "Ultimate Doom" is merely the original game with a fourth episode tacked onto it.


To the OP, if you haven't had your fill yet, I'd recommend checking out the fan made Plutonia 2 map-pack. It's pretty challenging, but without every map devolving into a major slugfest similar to the one you've been through in map 32 of Plutonia 1. Assuming custom maps work with the Steam thingymajig at all, that is :-p
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 19:43:05
February 28 2012 19:42 GMT
#8
Initiate refresh Daemon.

I'll deathmatch whoever

edit: it just hit me....is Doom the origin of the term Deathmatch?
Delvin
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland141 Posts
February 28 2012 20:11 GMT
#9
On February 29 2012 04:42 All Bogs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 04:07 CakeSauc3 wrote:I still haven't finished beating Doom 2 and I've never played Ultimate Doom - it looks like I learned something new from your post, and I'll keep my eyes open for a sale on these games in the future. ^^


Keep in mind that "Ultimate Doom" is merely the original game with a fourth episode tacked onto it.


To the OP, if you haven't had your fill yet, I'd recommend checking out the fan made Plutonia 2 map-pack. It's pretty challenging, but without every map devolving into a major slugfest similar to the one you've been through in map 32 of Plutonia 1. Assuming custom maps work with the Steam thingymajig at all, that is :-p
I don't have the Steam version but I'd imagine the .wad files can be found in the steamapps directory. Easiest would probably be to copy them into the directory of a separately installed modern source port. Zdoom for example can run custom levels just by drag 'n dropping them on the main executable.

My personal favourites are Erik Alm's Scythe series and various other epic maps like Deus Vult :-)

In any case the Master Levels are rather mediocre compared to a lot of freely available content (try browsing Doomworld's annual Cacowards for example; they feature many of the highlight levels of every year).
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3386 Posts
February 28 2012 20:17 GMT
#10
I bought this a while back too but whenever I run Doom 1 or 2, I can't seem to get the mouse working and have to use the arrow keys for turning even though Doom 1 & 2 had mouse support. I'm running windows XP here too.
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Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 20:29:25
February 28 2012 20:26 GMT
#11
Thanks for the responses.

Actually yes, I have downloaded Skulltag engine and I´ve mainly played co-op with a friend(who I gifted this pack on Steam) in Doom 2 and Final Doom. For whatever reason I forgot to mention it.

Quess I should look more into fan made maps.

If you buy Doom games on Steam you can find .wad files in steam/steamapps/common/insertdoomnamehere/base

Edit. finding typos is fun btw.

AoD
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
February 28 2012 20:29 GMT
#12
On February 29 2012 05:17 Yaqoob wrote:
I bought this a while back too but whenever I run Doom 1 or 2, I can't seem to get the mouse working and have to use the arrow keys for turning even though Doom 1 & 2 had mouse support. I'm running windows XP here too.


Yeah this is the same for me

I used to LOVE the wad creator. Even if my maps were awful i had so much fun just making random shit for my brother to try and run
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Knap4life
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Slovenia333 Posts
February 28 2012 20:31 GMT
#13
thanks , i enjoyed reading this.
CreatorGX
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
February 28 2012 20:51 GMT
#14
Now I want to try reinstalling Doom and see if I can still run through the game on Nightmare.

Thanks for that sudden urge of masochism, OP.
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KNICK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Germany248 Posts
February 28 2012 20:59 GMT
#15
That was a fun read! I remember watching my dad play Doom when I was 3 or 4 years old and then a year later starting to play it myself. I can't tell you how often I have finished Doom and Doom II, probably well over 20 times each. Evilution and The Plutonia Experiment I only played through once, somehow they don't quite have the charm or nostalgia of the original maps.

Doom 3 and the add-on were also fun, but in a different way. While in the classic games you just had to slaughter the shit out of everything, Doom 3 went with a more atmospheric approach, considerably less enemies on screen etc. It was one of the first games I got with a new computer at the time (around 2004 I think?), and I remember being absolutely blown away by the graphics.

Even nowadays I'll boot up Doomsday (Doom source port) once in a while and do a quick runthrough of Doom II, since by now I pretty much know all the levels by heart.

To the OP: Have you ever played Heretic or Hexen? They were made by Raven Software, published by id and they both use modified versions of the Doom Engine. The big difference is that instead of a zombies and demons kind of deal, they take place in a fantasy setting. While neither of them will ever have as big a place in my gamer heart as Doom has, they were still fun games in their own right.
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FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 21:19:53
February 28 2012 21:19 GMT
#16
i was just looking back at doom just videos of people playing, but i have never played it myself i was more into consoles at the time and the only computer games i bothered with were sc bw and aoe series
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TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
February 28 2012 21:30 GMT
#17
finding doom/doom2 and making levels for both a few years ago was one of the best things to happen to my gaming career. doom is sooooo fun!
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
February 29 2012 17:14 GMT
#18
I played a little of Final Doom and Ultimate Doom last night and this morning. Man I love this game.

I love the midis of the metal songs though more than anything
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
March 05 2012 01:12 GMT
#19
I beat Ultimate Doom on UV today. No fucking kidding e4m2 was stupid hard. Good lord.
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Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
March 05 2012 16:28 GMT
#20
On March 05 2012 10:12 Hawk wrote:
I beat Ultimate Doom on UV today. No fucking kidding e4m2 was stupid hard. Good lord.

Yeah, it still is one of the best maps, though.

What makes e4m2 Perfect Hatred hard:
-Lack of cover
-not too much extra ammo to spare
-not knowing what is about to happen(if 1st time playing)
-easy to fall of ledges into that poison pit
-not picking up the secret Rocket laucher in m1

Funny fact: The Cyberdemon in the end is intended to be telefragged by walking onto a teleporter. You´ll find a BFG below its corpse.

Also there is a hidden exit to a bonus level. Every episode has one hidden somewhere.
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