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surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
February 24 2012 09:02 GMT
#21
Another book that's worth reading now is Anthony Burgess' "1985". It starts with a 100 page essay on 1984 and Orwell's political views, socialism in England and so on (Don't worry, it's not as boring as it sounds and totally readable as a laymen). Then comes the novel 1985 which is Burgess' alternate version of a dystopia and his prediction of how a dystopian future would look like; also kind of a parody of Orwell. Definitely worth checking out.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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Last Edited: 2012-02-24 10:00:50
February 24 2012 10:00 GMT
#22
On February 24 2012 16:57 sam!zdat wrote:
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On February 24 2012 16:52 beamingrobot wrote:
On February 24 2012 16:18 sam!zdat wrote:
Read Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick.


Most of Philip K. Dick's books are good. I'd suggest The Simulacra.


Half of Philip K. Dick's books are good - four or five of these are among the best fiction of the twentieth century. The other half are terrible.

This is coming from probably one of the biggest PKD fans there is.

I recommended Flow My Tears because it's the most "dystopian."


I would say Wait for Last Year or Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep are the most dystopian, although not the most similar to 1984 if that's what you mean.
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hGA
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden4 Posts
February 24 2012 11:06 GMT
#23
All the previous recommendations are really good and I applaud the taste of the TL-members.
If you read Brave New World and like it I can really recommend another of Aldous Huxley's books: Point Counter Point, which is also very good.
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zalz
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Netherlands3704 Posts
February 24 2012 12:11 GMT
#24
1984 is my favorite novel of all time.

To me, the scariest parts were always the chapters where O'Brien applies his pseudo-logic. Why can't 2+2 = 5?

The utter pointlessness of it all, is what really frightened me. Why do they do what they do? For the good of the party. Completly subverting the course of humanity in order to please an abstract notion, an essentially non-existing entity.

And finally of course, the need for power, just for power's sake. Why does the party need to convert Winston before they kill him? It doesn't make any sense, but in that twisted pseudo-logic, it does. They can't even let him die with his mind in pieces, they need to break everyone and everything. All in servitude of the party, something that doesn't even exist.

What does the future look like? Imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.


The only thing I don't like is when people talk about 1984 how it is supposed to be some prediction of what is around the corner. Or people yelling that 1984 is here!

You miss the point if you think that is what the book is about.
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