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Just finished 1984! (spoilers)

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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 24 2012 06:52 GMT
#1
This book was great! I'm glad that my english class made us read it. It's crazy how at the end Winston is changed so much that he actually loves Big Brother. Him and Julia were nothing like they were before they were caught, and it really shows how much power the Party actually had. When you read through the book, you think that Winston and Julia are somehow going to find a way to overthrow the Party, and then it takes an M. Night Shyamalan twist where they are caught and tortured into becoming brainwashed. If you guys haven't read it, you should definitely pick it up. It's a classic!

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SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
February 24 2012 06:57 GMT
#2
If you liked it, you should also read Animal Farm (if you haven't already). Also a brilliant book :D
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
February 24 2012 07:00 GMT
#3
May I suggest that you continue on your travels down the dystopic line by reading "Brave New World" next. I daresay I prefer Huxley to Orwell when it comes to conceptions of an upside down future, but that may only be the drug user in me speaking :D
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mahi29
Profile Joined May 2011
United States235 Posts
February 24 2012 07:01 GMT
#4
1984 is a great novel. And Brave New World is a close second in dystopian novels. You should definitely read BNW if you haven't already. The society of BNW is pretty shocking and thought-provoking
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 24 2012 07:02 GMT
#5
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll have to check them out
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
February 24 2012 07:05 GMT
#6
Love all of Orwell's stuff including his non-fiction stuff.
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 24 2012 07:12 GMT
#7
On February 24 2012 16:01 mahi29 wrote:
1984 is a great novel. And Brave New World is a close second in dystopian novels. You should definitely read BNW if you haven't already. The society of BNW is pretty shocking and thought-provoking

Most schools tend to have both books as required read. They were definitely my favorite books from high school.
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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 24 2012 07:18 GMT
#8
Read Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick.
shikata ga nai
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
February 24 2012 07:34 GMT
#9
1984 becomes better and better as you get older and re-read it. At least that's been my experience. It's one of the few books that I've ever read that conjured a real sense of fear.
TehPrime
Profile Joined February 2012
United States180 Posts
February 24 2012 07:34 GMT
#10
Loved reading 1984? Great!

Now you can go and have a real life experience of 1984.

Book a trip to North Korea.
ggggbabybabybaby
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada304 Posts
February 24 2012 07:39 GMT
#11
You should check out 'We'. It was written by a Russian guy during the revolution and is pretty much the inspiration behind 1984and Brave New World. I guess you could call it the hipster dystopian novel. It might be difficult to find depending on where you live but it's pretty cool read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_(novel)
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 24 2012 07:44 GMT
#12
Should be able to find We at most bookstores, actually.
shikata ga nai
BadgKat
Profile Joined June 2011
United States156 Posts
February 24 2012 07:47 GMT
#13
On February 24 2012 15:57 SgtCoDFish wrote:
If you liked it, you should also read Animal Farm (if you haven't already). Also a brilliant book :D


I want to second this. Such a great fable. Also, if you are interested in writing well, I suggest reading George Orwell's essay "Politics and the English Language." Hell, I say just read it because it makes listening to the news more sad and more interesting.
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
February 24 2012 07:52 GMT
#14
On February 24 2012 16:18 sam!zdat wrote:
Read Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick.


Most of Philip K. Dick's books are good. I'd suggest The Simulacra.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 07:58:30
February 24 2012 07:57 GMT
#15
On February 24 2012 16:52 beamingrobot wrote:
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On February 24 2012 16:18 sam!zdat wrote:
Read Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick.


Most of Philip K. Dick's books are good. I'd suggest The Simulacra.


Half of Philip K. Dick's books are good - four or five of these are among the best fiction of the twentieth century. The other half are terrible.

This is coming from probably one of the biggest PKD fans there is.

I recommended Flow My Tears because it's the most "dystopian."
shikata ga nai
BadgKat
Profile Joined June 2011
United States156 Posts
February 24 2012 07:58 GMT
#16
On February 24 2012 16:52 beamingrobot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 16:18 sam!zdat wrote:
Read Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick.


ALL of Philip K. Dick's books are good. I'd suggest The Simulacra.

FTFY. Speaking of which I should read Flow My Tears next. One of the few PKD titles I haven't read and I hear such good things.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#17
On February 24 2012 16:58 IMBensin wrote:
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On February 24 2012 16:52 beamingrobot wrote:
On February 24 2012 16:18 sam!zdat wrote:
Read Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick.


ALL of Philip K. Dick's books are good. I'd suggest The Simulacra.

FTFY. Speaking of which I should read Flow My Tears next. One of the few PKD titles I haven't read and I hear such good things.


You have clearly never read The Cosmic Puppets.
shikata ga nai
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
February 24 2012 08:13 GMT
#18
On February 24 2012 16:34 Ganfei2 wrote:
1984 becomes better and better as you get older and re-read it. At least that's been my experience. It's one of the few books that I've ever read that conjured a real sense of fear.


i agree completely. I've come to like it more and more over time as I've reread it
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 24 2012 08:14 GMT
#19
On February 24 2012 16:34 TehPrime wrote:
Loved reading 1984? Great!

Now you can go and have a real life experience of 1984.

Book a trip to North Korea.

Or come to China, it's a nice Lite version

1984 definitely a real classic. Its impact on culture is just huge.
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actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 21:07:04
February 24 2012 08:41 GMT
#20
1984, i am almost finished rereading it. like 30 pages to go. Great book! first book i ever bothered finishing actually.

Another book i really enjoyed and read shortly after 1984 was Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury.

I dont read often mind you, and its a rarity i finish a book i pick up >.< Fahrenheit was short tho. It is about the burning of books. Really good imo and i kinda felt the vibe that 1984 had with the destruction of information and such.

Edit -

So i just finished up the ending again (this was my second time reading it), and damn did i forget how much the end pissed me off. Why do the best endings seem to make me mad lol. Its great. Happy i reread it, defiantly will again in a few years when it starts to leave my memory.
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surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
February 24 2012 09:02 GMT
#21
Another book that's worth reading now is Anthony Burgess' "1985". It starts with a 100 page essay on 1984 and Orwell's political views, socialism in England and so on (Don't worry, it's not as boring as it sounds and totally readable as a laymen). Then comes the novel 1985 which is Burgess' alternate version of a dystopia and his prediction of how a dystopian future would look like; also kind of a parody of Orwell. Definitely worth checking out.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 10:00:50
February 24 2012 10:00 GMT
#22
On February 24 2012 16:57 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 16:52 beamingrobot wrote:
On February 24 2012 16:18 sam!zdat wrote:
Read Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick.


Most of Philip K. Dick's books are good. I'd suggest The Simulacra.


Half of Philip K. Dick's books are good - four or five of these are among the best fiction of the twentieth century. The other half are terrible.

This is coming from probably one of the biggest PKD fans there is.

I recommended Flow My Tears because it's the most "dystopian."


I would say Wait for Last Year or Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep are the most dystopian, although not the most similar to 1984 if that's what you mean.
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hGA
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden4 Posts
February 24 2012 11:06 GMT
#23
All the previous recommendations are really good and I applaud the taste of the TL-members.
If you read Brave New World and like it I can really recommend another of Aldous Huxley's books: Point Counter Point, which is also very good.
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
February 24 2012 12:11 GMT
#24
1984 is my favorite novel of all time.

To me, the scariest parts were always the chapters where O'Brien applies his pseudo-logic. Why can't 2+2 = 5?

The utter pointlessness of it all, is what really frightened me. Why do they do what they do? For the good of the party. Completly subverting the course of humanity in order to please an abstract notion, an essentially non-existing entity.

And finally of course, the need for power, just for power's sake. Why does the party need to convert Winston before they kill him? It doesn't make any sense, but in that twisted pseudo-logic, it does. They can't even let him die with his mind in pieces, they need to break everyone and everything. All in servitude of the party, something that doesn't even exist.

What does the future look like? Imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.


The only thing I don't like is when people talk about 1984 how it is supposed to be some prediction of what is around the corner. Or people yelling that 1984 is here!

You miss the point if you think that is what the book is about.
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