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Starcraft II Journey as a bronze player

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Isolath
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia17 Posts
February 22 2012 05:29 GMT
#1
Hi there, I'm a Bronze player.

No no, don't runaway just yet. I intend to leave it. However, I still think the journey of a Bronze player is still... interesting. And hopefully this will have other Bronze players look at their journeys and say to themselves "wtf am I doing???".

Unfortunately my first replays were not saved, so I have no pictorial demonstration of early mistakes. However I do remember the first conversations when I was being taught by my lovely partner. No experience of Starcraft BW, and little exposure to the game, convos went a little something like this (after watching some games):

Expand to read.
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Partner: "You want to play Terran, Zerg or Protoss?"
Me: "Uh, Zergs look yuck and you play Terran... so Protoss?"
Partner: "Okay, I'll teach you your first build: 4gate"
Me: "Okay"
(entered AI game)
Partner: "Make some probes then make a pylon."
Me: "What's a probe? What's a pylon?"
P: "That's a probe and that's a pylon."
M: "How do I make them?"
(etc... after awhile)
P: "Okay make another pylon."
M: "What's a pylon?"
P: *facepalm*


I was either slow or didn't pay much attention. I choose the latter.

Basically I started at zero and had to learn everything! At the time for me 'cheese' was a delicious dairy food and 'creep' was to sneak around or a word to describe myself.

After a few games I was taught to use hotkeys and my keyboard for selecting things instead of my mouse. This created a lot of miss clicking, miss pressing, weird hotkeying and just weirdness.

Example of army hotkeyed below:
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The gateways were accidental
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progressing in the game... I managed to throw more random in the mix.
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You can just imagine what this would create. Each time I moved my army, I'd tell my nexus to shoot out probes exactly to where my army was walking towards. Great strategy.


Then when I knew A-clicking like a charm, I abused it to suicide my army. Common was to have no idea what the enemy had, select my whole army and A-click into their base. And then wait and see what happened.

Here I am blue protoss:
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Should I back away? Nah, I'm invincible!... Oh, maybe not.


And of course not understanding the game at all. There were important numbers my partner mentioned to me, but I thought was fluff. Below are the numbers I am referring to. I am the blue player.

Guess who won. Hint: It wasn't me.
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Not to mention things that I just can't explain...
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My opponent could see what I was doing the whole time. He may have asked:
"Why are the probes lingering with the army? How did they get there? And why aren't they mining instead?"
Or just simply state:
"I'm going to win this no worries"
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This I call a nexus probe hug. How it happened? Beats me. Should I find out? Maybe.
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So I guess a Bronze player's journey is mistake after mistake after mistake. When you fix one thing, there are still way more to fix. The random mistakes are due to bad manual movement (e.g., miss clicking). That corrects itself through practise. For me, a lot of the mistakes was not understanding what was important (e.g., building workers and not getting supply blocked). Also being quite careless (e.g., letting my whole army enter an unscouted base and not retrieving if necessary).

They are simple things, but easily forgotten by someone who is still figuring out how to click and select things. I know it has taken me a while to understand even with constant hassling of my partner when he looks at my replays and makes me focus on my nexus and says "you're not making probes."

My journey as a Bronze has been learning, forgetting what I have learnt, learning again, practising what I have learnt and then learn something else whilst forgetting the previous thing I learnt. Let's just say I am easily distracted.

However, I feel like my Bronze journey is coming to an end. My win ratio is increasing and I am taking things a little more serious now. I feel like I am starting to 'get it'.

I've shown some of mine, so what random mistakes have you made?

***
somewhere there is somebody doing something
Ezkaton
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Japan416 Posts
February 22 2012 05:39 GMT
#2
Man I used to do the hotkey nexus/gateways with my army all the time. The thing is I would do it ALL the time and never know how I managed to do it lol.
Keep trying man good to see you are keeping positive and improving slowly but surely
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44620 Posts
February 22 2012 05:41 GMT
#3
When you select all your probes and want them to mine resources, right click the minerals instead of the nexus.

That will be the best advice anyone will ever give you.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Isolath
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia17 Posts
February 22 2012 06:00 GMT
#4
On February 22 2012 14:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
When you select all your probes and want them to mine resources, right click the minerals instead of the nexus.

That will be the best advice anyone will ever give you.


Hahaha! Thanks man. Much appreciated.
somewhere there is somebody doing something
Isolath
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia17 Posts
February 22 2012 06:02 GMT
#5
On February 22 2012 14:39 Ezkaton wrote:
Man I used to do the hotkey nexus/gateways with my army all the time. The thing is I would do it ALL the time and never know how I managed to do it lol.
Keep trying man good to see you are keeping positive and improving slowly but surely


I still do it, but have figured out why, so correcting myself.

Bad habits are hard to break. Damn muscle memory...
somewhere there is somebody doing something
ELYSiUMlol
Profile Joined November 2011
United States89 Posts
February 22 2012 07:39 GMT
#6
Bronze league is a very difficult time in a man's life. Coming from a master league player who was bronze not even a year ago, I understand your troubling journey through the depths of hell itself.

Good luck though, it's seriously one of the best gaming experiences ever.
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