• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:21
CEST 19:21
KST 02:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2912Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format12[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!1Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back9BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Interview with an American 16 Year Old Grandmaster Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format
Tourneys
WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5124 users

Translation needed: Note left by Chinese customer

Blogs > Eufouria
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 00:18:20
February 10 2012 00:16 GMT
#1
So tonight the restaurant I work in had a function where we served a little over 100 Chinese tourists, who I think were on some sort of all inclusive holiday to London where they were being guided around by Chinese speakers.

Part of this trip included a meal in our restaurant, which I guess was supposed to be a traditional English meal or something like that. Unfortunately the boss overruled our head chef, so they were served the traditional English dinner of minestrone soup, steak and chips, with chocolate vanilla and strawberry ice cream as the desert.

This function highlighted the massive cultural differences between China and England (and I guess the rest of the west), and this along with the frustration of most of them not being able to communicate with our staff very well gave me the impression that most of the customers didn't enjoy themselves, which is unfortunate.

At the end of the night we found this note on a napkin.

[image loading]

Maybe its a glowing review of the night or maybe its a shopping list accidentally left on the table, but now I have to know, and since I don't know anyone with good enough Chinese to translate it for me I figured I'd turn to the website that we all know would form the perfect society if we could all come together and populate a small piece of land. So if someone would please be kind enough to translate this for me it would, at least, make my week. Otherwise its just going to eat at me.

Also while I've, hopefully, got the attention of a person well versed in Chinese society I have some questions.
-Quite a few people weren't fans of the minestrone and steak, is this just because its different to food in China or could something be done to make the customers enjoy them more (we have another group on Sunday).
-Apparently a couple of people were much happier with the steak once they had English mustard (but then again the manager that said that is a bit of an ignorant asshole so I don't know), is meat in China generally spicier?
-And finally, apparently people were expecting their next course as soon as they'd finished, is this how the culture in China works, compared to how in England you wait for the table to finish before the next course is served, or were people just hungry?

Thanks for your help.

*****
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
February 10 2012 00:23 GMT
#2
Oh, crap - now I _have_ to know as well. Someone please help the guy out, I can't go to bed until this mystery is solved.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
redoxx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States333 Posts
February 10 2012 00:26 GMT
#3
Those characters are so messy lol. I'm not that well versed in Chinese culture, but I think that the Chinese typically don't eat large portions of meat so eating a steak could be sort of weird for some of them.
The horror...the horror
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
February 10 2012 00:29 GMT
#4
So I asked my dad and he says the writing is REALLY messy. For someone that is really well versed in Chinese, its not very often that he says that. Pretty much it is a poem or a journal of some kind talking about the food he ate (red wine in the first column), then relating it to something else?? Didn't really get what he said either, but in the last column he talks about the year of the dragon. He said it wasn't written well and didn't really mean anything -.-
133 221 333 123 111
ins(out)side
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
220 Posts
February 10 2012 00:35 GMT
#5
I wont be satisfied until we have a character for character translation that is 100% accurate!!!
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
February 10 2012 00:54 GMT
#6
On February 10 2012 09:29 GenesisX wrote:
So I asked my dad and he says the writing is REALLY messy. For someone that is really well versed in Chinese, its not very often that he says that. Pretty much it is a poem or a journal of some kind talking about the food he ate (red wine in the first column), then relating it to something else?? Didn't really get what he said either, but in the last column he talks about the year of the dragon. He said it wasn't written well and didn't really mean anything -.-


Sounds like the guy writing it had a little too much red wine. :D
BW4Life!
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 01:09:42
February 10 2012 00:54 GMT
#7
It is a poem, here is the translation:

First column: 10 thousands killometers away in February of the year of the dragon.
Second column: flying snow embraces the journey to London.
Third column: the western world creates the feeling of homesickness.
Fourth column: red wine, the year in the west, and the drink that speaks feelings.

Basically, whoever wrote this misses home and wanted to express his feelings while he's in London England. I translated as accurate as possible. But there is no way to translate Chinese to English without losing significant amount of meaning, that's why it doesn't sound as good after translation.
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
February 10 2012 00:55 GMT
#8
On February 10 2012 09:29 GenesisX wrote:
So I asked my dad and he says the writing is REALLY messy. For someone that is really well versed in Chinese, its not very often that he says that. Pretty much it is a poem or a journal of some kind talking about the food he ate (red wine in the first column), then relating it to something else?? Didn't really get what he said either, but in the last column he talks about the year of the dragon. He said it wasn't written well and didn't really mean anything -.-


First column is actually the left most, your dad is still reading from the old Chinese way - right to left. If you read it right to left, it doesn't make sense logically and the ending clearly is the 4th column the right most.
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 01:01:20
February 10 2012 00:58 GMT
#9
On February 10 2012 09:16 Eufouria wrote:
Also while I've, hopefully, got the attention of a person well versed in Chinese society I have some questions.
-Quite a few people weren't fans of the minestrone and steak, is this just because its different to food in China or could something be done to make the customers enjoy them more (we have another group on Sunday).
-Apparently a couple of people were much happier with the steak once they had English mustard (but then again the manager that said that is a bit of an ignorant asshole so I don't know), is meat in China generally spicier?
-And finally, apparently people were expecting their next course as soon as they'd finished, is this how the culture in China works, compared to how in England you wait for the table to finish before the next course is served, or were people just hungry?

Thanks for your help.

While I can't really make heads or tails of that chicken scratch (my grasp of Chinese is definitely not to the point where I can gander what that means) I can hopefully help with some of the questions you have.

I can see why the Chinese customers wouldn't be huge fans of minestrone soup. Soups in China are not nearly as thick as most minestrone soups are, and minestrone (at least in my experience) has a very strong broth. A lot of Chinese soups (depending on where in the country they're from) tend to have weaker flavors in the broth that serve to highlight more what is contained in the soup. As far as steak is concerned, Chinese people do tend to heavily season and condiment their meat dishes (again, preference depends a lot on where in China they're from as regional cuisines differ greatly from region to region).

And Chinese dining culture doesn't really revolve around "courses" that much. Many meals, especially larger meals in China, are done in a "grab what you want" style. Usually, most of the courses are laid out in the table in front of them, with each person having their own bowl of rice. They pick and choose out of the main courses in front of them to accompany the rice they have, so it's understandable that they expected to always have some sort of food in front of them.
Writer
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
February 10 2012 01:02 GMT
#10
On February 10 2012 09:54 Tryndamere wrote:
It is a poem, here is the translation:

First column: 10 thousands killometers away in February of the year of the dragon.
Second column: flying snow embraces the journey to London.
Third column: the western world creates the feeling of homesick.
Fourth column: red wine, the year in the west, and the drink that speaks feelings.

Basically, whoever wrote this misses home and wanted to express his feelings while he's in London England. I translated as accurate as possible. But there is no way to translate Chinese to English without losing significant amount of meaning, that's why it doesn't sound as good after translation.


this is a pretty accurate translation
the courage to be a lazy bum
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
February 10 2012 01:07 GMT
#11
Also while I've, hopefully, got the attention of a person well versed in Chinese society I have some questions.
-Quite a few people weren't fans of the minestrone and steak, is this just because its different to food in China or could something be done to make the customers enjoy them more (we have another group on Sunday).


Chinese cuisine is very different from the western cuisine. A lot of emphasis is put on the taste, marinade and sauce. They don't really care if it's healthy, they just care about the taste. So for steak and minestrone, they are just too generic, lack of taste. The soup itself is probably inferior to what they eat at home and the steak is just bland piece of meat.

-Apparently a couple of people were much happier with the steak once they had English mustard (but then again the manager that said that is a bit of an ignorant asshole so I don't know), is meat in China generally spicier?


Like what I mentioned earlier, it is all about the seasoning, sauce, marinade. The mustard is probably a sauce for them, just like they add soy sauce to sushi to enrich the taste.

-And finally, apparently people were expecting their next course as soon as they'd finished, is this how the culture in China works, compared to how in England you wait for the table to finish before the next course is served, or were people just hungry?


If you ever go to a Chinese restaurant, they send out shit really quickly because most of the stuff are stir fried and that's why it is fast or the food is always being cooked. The downside is that the service really sucks because they put more emphasis on food less emphasis on service.
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
February 10 2012 01:47 GMT
#12
Ya know......for a start you could actually rotate the pic 90 degrees clockwise before uploading it so that we can read it more easily......instead I had to turn my entire monitor 90 degrees............ -.-"
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 10 2012 01:49 GMT
#13
On February 10 2012 10:47 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Ya know......for a start you could actually rotate the pic 90 degrees clockwise before uploading it so that we can read it more easily......instead I had to turn my entire monitor 90 degrees............ -.-"

Can't you just do that in any image manipulating program, like paint?
you gotta dance
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 01:53:47
February 10 2012 01:52 GMT
#14
On February 10 2012 10:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 10:47 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Ya know......for a start you could actually rotate the pic 90 degrees clockwise before uploading it so that we can read it more easily......instead I had to turn my entire monitor 90 degrees............ -.-"

Can't you just do that in any image manipulating program, like paint?


That's what I did. Clazz I thought you are Korean... wait, you post count doesn't match with that other Clazz. Similar names perhaps?
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
February 10 2012 03:05 GMT
#15
On February 10 2012 09:54 Tryndamere wrote:
It is a poem, here is the translation:

First column: 10 thousands killometers away in February of the year of the dragon.
Second column: flying snow embraces the journey to London.
Third column: the western world creates the feeling of homesickness.
Fourth column: red wine, the year in the west, and the drink that speaks feelings.

Basically, whoever wrote this misses home and wanted to express his feelings while he's in London England. I translated as accurate as possible. But there is no way to translate Chinese to English without losing significant amount of meaning, that's why it doesn't sound as good after translation.


IMO, that's not a bad poem! (albeit translated)
forelmashi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
421 Posts
February 10 2012 03:34 GMT
#16
On February 10 2012 09:54 Tryndamere wrote:
It is a poem, here is the translation:

First column: 10 thousands killometers away in February of the year of the dragon.
Second column: flying snow embraces the journey to London.
Third column: the western world creates the feeling of homesickness.
Fourth column: red wine, the year in the west, and the drink that speaks feelings.

Basically, whoever wrote this misses home and wanted to express his feelings while he's in London England. I translated as accurate as possible. But there is no way to translate Chinese to English without losing significant amount of meaning, that's why it doesn't sound as good after translation.

can you provide the chinese text please? :D
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 03:37:34
February 10 2012 03:36 GMT
#17
On February 10 2012 12:34 forelmashi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 09:54 Tryndamere wrote:
It is a poem, here is the translation:

First column: 10 thousands killometers away in February of the year of the dragon.
Second column: flying snow embraces the journey to London.
Third column: the western world creates the feeling of homesickness.
Fourth column: red wine, the year in the west, and the drink that speaks feelings.

Basically, whoever wrote this misses home and wanted to express his feelings while he's in London England. I translated as accurate as possible. But there is no way to translate Chinese to English without losing significant amount of meaning, that's why it doesn't sound as good after translation.

can you provide the chinese text please? :D


Look at the pic lol... I can't type it out here, don't have the software to type Chinese.
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
forelmashi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
421 Posts
February 10 2012 03:44 GMT
#18
my chinese isn't good enough for that owell
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
February 10 2012 03:47 GMT
#19
Your boss overruled your head chef for a menu like that? Sounds terrible
Logic is Overrated
forelmashi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
421 Posts
February 10 2012 03:56 GMT
#20
On February 10 2012 09:16 Eufouria wrote:

Also while I've, hopefully, got the attention of a person well versed in Chinese society I have some questions.
-Quite a few people weren't fans of the minestrone and steak, is this just because its different to food in China or could something be done to make the customers enjoy them more (we have another group on Sunday).
-Apparently a couple of people were much happier with the steak once they had English mustard (but then again the manager that said that is a bit of an ignorant asshole so I don't know), is meat in China generally spicier?
-And finally, apparently people were expecting their next course as soon as they'd finished, is this how the culture in China works, compared to how in England you wait for the table to finish before the next course is served, or were people just hungry?

Thanks for your help.

1) different tastes
2) asians generally like meat "flavored", they don't like just the taste of meat (aka steak)
3) traditionally all the food comes out at once so you can pick and grab at the dishes. they may not be familiar with western dining tradition.
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 290
CosmosSc2 47
BRAT_OK 30
MindelVK 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4082
Horang2 483
Light 409
Zeus 274
actioN 216
ggaemo 185
firebathero 172
Soulkey 123
Movie 44
ToSsGirL 33
[ Show more ]
Hyun 32
soO 32
910 26
scan(afreeca) 25
Barracks 17
Yoon 17
Rock 16
Sacsri 14
Sexy 8
Dewaltoss 5
Dota 2
Gorgc8701
qojqva934
League of Legends
Doublelift3329
KnowMe81
Counter-Strike
FalleN 1659
fl0m1480
x6flipin442
adren_tv94
kRYSTAL_34
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0177
Other Games
Grubby1656
singsing1360
Liquid`RaSZi1170
Beastyqt510
ceh9401
crisheroes141
Livibee131
XaKoH 103
SteadfastSC78
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2820
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV514
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2230
Other Games
• imaqtpie570
• Shiphtur308
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
15h 39m
CrankTV Team League
17h 39m
Replay Cast
1d 15h
CrankTV Team League
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.