My beautiful archons! - Page 2

On February 09 2012 20:23 evanthebouncy! wrote:


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On February 09 2012 15:41 Joraiem wrote:
Back in brood war, Archons were, well at least for me, extremely powerful, and an invaluable asset to my army. I loved them so much, I actually made shield generators, you know, those things that the probe could build, but you never really saw a use for, ya, there basically built for archons. When I first started playing, all I would do was mass archons and wreck every thing. Then of course my friends found out about the science vessel, and I learned that when you pair archons and corsairs, you’re basically untouchable...basically.

On February 10 2012 01:53 Servius_Fulvius wrote:


I'm curious to know how good a player you were at BW. I played a D+ zerg summer 2010 (between SC2 beta and release when the iccup ladder was arguably at its best), and mass archons were a gimmick strategy. 5 hatch hydra wrecked strategies like this. Ranged zerg attacks have been and are currently the working counter to massing archons. What if you took it to the late game, massed corsair, and huge upgrades? I take a million expansions, max on fully upgraded hydras/guardians/defilers and wrecked you with a combination of dark swarm and superior army regeneration.

That's not to say they are completely uncalled for. In a balanced protoss army they do very well. They destroy clumped muta going for high templar snipes and were a perfect use for templars after you wrecked the zerg army with storm.

In my opinion, the biggest reason you're seeing problems with this strategy in SC2 is because most zergs will use range-based units (roaches and hydras). If I scout something like zealot/archon I beeline for a roach warren since I play a zergling/baneling-style midgame. That's not to say there is zero use for archons in SC2, but even lower level players will unwittingly counter the strategy just by following popular metagame trends.

I'm glad you like your archons, but if all you want to do is mass them and get upgrades then you should really learn to love the lower leagues because you're going to be stuck there forever.

On February 10 2012 02:57 Xenocide_Knight wrote:

I think you missed the point. It's not a question of it being a viable strategy to reach 200/200 3/3/3 archons, it's a question of how powerful that final product is.

Back in brood war, Archons were, well at least for me, extremely powerful, and an invaluable asset to my army.