EPTThe comment Destiny made about LoL being harder is just ludicrous. It's not even the hardest moba game. I have even heard some top Moba players say, that if they had a choice in what game they can play at the highest level they choose SC2 because of it's difficulty and complexity. I think Destiny is just in a slump ATM.
My view regarding Destiny's latest statements - Page 9
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downmaster
Canada116 Posts
The comment Destiny made about LoL being harder is just ludicrous. It's not even the hardest moba game. I have even heard some top Moba players say, that if they had a choice in what game they can play at the highest level they choose SC2 because of it's difficulty and complexity. I think Destiny is just in a slump ATM. | ||
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chaosfreak11
Singapore367 Posts
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ssi.bal-listic
United States568 Posts
Did he really say LoL takes more skill than SC2? LoL is mechanically easiest piece of shit there is... | ||
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LogiKalFail
Cayman Islands30 Posts
LoL viewers already are dedicated to people like theoddone etc | ||
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TrainSamurai
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LogiKalFail
Cayman Islands30 Posts
On February 08 2012 19:26 TrainSamurai wrote: Look I think we're all being stupid. The way I see it BW took a lot of time to become what it is today, give LoL some time and it will become like sc2. no dude I think we're right, LoL is just plain bad. dont lose hope we WILL win this | ||
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deathray797
196 Posts
S: LoL needs no skill, SC2 is so hard needs so much more skill and so much more apm O: Then explain: if SC2 needs so much skill, why did I, a 15 year old kid with a disabled left hand+fingers which are very hard to move accurately, get into masters in 3 months of practicing SC2 with like 80 apm average + Show Spoiler + also I think the BW fans would like a word with you S: lol does it matter? Look at the average SC2 player apm, its 200 or higher. Average LoL apm is like 30 O: Nonono the average SC2 PRO apm is 200 or higher. The average SC2 player apm is like 50 S: Either way in SC2 you need to know mechanics, builds, timings, how to multitask, how to scout and react and so much more shit O: In LoL you need to know 92 champions, all of their abilities (around 368 in total, not including passive), jungle spawn timings, how to counterpick, how to change your build depending on the opponent's composition, etc. Not much of an argument there S: Even if you need to know a lot, LoL is still mechanically super easy and made for retards who can't multitask O: I won't argue with the fact that SC2 is mechanically more difficult than LoL, however, you need to learn what Elo Hell is, and that even if your mechanics are "SUPER ULTRA BEAST" from SC2 u'll still die without cooperating with teammates + Show Spoiler + btw SC2 is mechanically super easy and made for retards who can't multitask too according to BW fans S: You're just a LoL fanboy who sucks at SC2, you're opinions don't mean shit O: Well I did get into masters, so... And I've also played BW AND SC2 for like 4 times longer than LoL... And I never said SC2 was bad, I'm just saying all the SC2 fanboy arguments are A: Exactly the same as the BW vs SC2 ones or B: Don't make any fucking sense Edit: Now for some lolz (copying some SC2'ers hating on LoL and transforming them into BW hating on SC2): + Show Spoiler + 1. "You're shitting me. Did he really say SC2 takes more skill than BW? SC2 is mechanically easiest piece of shit there is..." 2. "Honestly Ill just say what;s on the majority of peoples minds. SC2 is waaaay easier. *insert pro name here* was probably drunk. If not he is prob sick of being semi-pro BW, you can imagine how frustrating it is losing on ladder. Now imagine losing when you know your GOOD. SC2 is a joke, im sorry but its designed for people who don't like to multi-task but like to feel good about themselves by making colorful spells pop up. also please don't bring intelligence into a game, im sorry there are a ton of people who aren't good at college/exams and do very well in BW and the reverse is also true its just pointless to equate intelligence with game skill " 3. "A game that requires no skill such as SC2 might make you feel relieved, you might feel good about yourself when you win matches. Owning noobs and what-not. But deluding yourself into believing you are actually playing a game superior to StarCraft BroodWar is unacceptable, and quite frankly, pathethic." "SC2 is a terrible game, I won't even get into how shitty the community and pubs are on there. Fuck that. It's more about luck then skill, what skills do you need in SC2 honestly? learning a build order, scouting, know what all the unit abilitys and shit do, what builds to do etc. Is that really harder then BW? I have played at least a thosand games of both and the answer is no. *insert pro name here* is just stirring shit up I think, it's all he does." There are many ironic comments in this thread Edit 2: Before I get hate on also being a BW fanboy, this was just so you could see how ironic the situation you're in now is | ||
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XiVol
Wales74 Posts
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Pulzlulz
Germany412 Posts
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LogiKalFail
Cayman Islands30 Posts
but you know what, if you like LoL, play it not because its harder than sc2 but because it gives you more pleasure. I'd rather play the easier game which ofcourse LoL is. Hence I encourage people to play LoL, sc2 gives an experience that can be unpleasant so I understand the hate etc etc etc etc | ||
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deathray797
196 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:27 LogiKalFail wrote: honestly, comparing GSL level starcraft to LoL is just so idiotic its not even about being a fanboy its just a joke but you know what, if you like LoL, play it not because its harder than sc2 but because it gives you more pleasure. I'd rather play the easier game which ofcourse LoL is. Hence I encourage people to play LoL, sc2 gives an experience that can be unpleasant so I understand the hate etc etc etc etc Yea lets compare tornament lvl SC2 to casual (bronze-gold SC2) LoL that seems totally fair am i right? Imo bronze league SC2 compared to tornament level LoL is just so idiotic its not even about being a fanboy its just a joke too. Not bashing you, but just saying, that argument is kinda dumb :/ | ||
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preddo
United States7 Posts
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LogiKalFail
Cayman Islands30 Posts
best of LoL are no way near that to sc2. also - LoL can be learnt like a book, there are only so many things that can be done (cant believe people are comparing SC2 A GAME WITH MORE THAN ONE UNIT TO CONTROL) to LoL. | ||
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UltimateHurl
Ireland591 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13090 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On February 08 2012 21:21 SkelA wrote: Who is this destiny dude and why ppl care about what he has to say? Well, no idea. | ||
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DanceOnCreep
Germany22 Posts
and if u really watch his stream cuz u want to watch a good zerg player please give guys like gLsnute more attention cuz he is a really good zerg player and doesnt even gets 10% of the viewer count that a destiny gets | ||
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deathray797
196 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:51 preddo wrote: not only does LoL takes minimal amounts of skill to play at the very top level, it's a horrible game to watch. kind of like watching a group of people painting a wall. there's always 1 obvious correct option to go for, and nothing beyond that. Judging a game by how much fun it is to watch... really. + Show Spoiler + God even though I said that I think BW>SC2 for that very reason :/. IM A BAD PERSON On February 08 2012 20:55 LogiKalFail wrote: @deathray ; I meant to compare best of LoL to best of sc2, because I dont feel you can judge the real "skill" of either games otherwise. best of LoL are no way near that to sc2. also - LoL can be learnt like a book, there are only so many things that can be done (cant believe people are comparing SC2 A GAME WITH MORE THAN ONE UNIT TO CONTROL) to LoL. O ok I misunderstood you my bad. The thing is that you can get into mid masters in SC2 by learning some builds, timings, and simply not doing stupid shit like forgetting to build supply depots/pylons/overlords for like 5 minutes fairly easily. This kinda connects to my first and fourth point in my very first post. Even though SC2 DOES require more mechanical expertise, the amount needed to be relatively good at the game is fairly low, hence why even I could get "good" at sc2 despite my problems. Additionally, the difficulty of both games is similar, it's just difficulty of different types. Sc2 is difficult because you yourself cannot make any mistakes or it puts you at a severe disadvantage, while LoL is difficult because your allies can put you at a disadvantage so that despite you winning your lane the opponent(s) is/are still more fed than you, forcing you to try to carry the game. Thinking the reverse way, both games are easy because in Sc2, if your opponents make a mistake, they gain a disadvantage, while in LoL if your allies get fed, they can simply carry you. TL;DR: You're right that comparing Sc2 and LoL is dumb because they are games of different types, but the fact that you're implying Sc2 is much harder than LoL at tornament level is just you're opinion and both are equally hard in different ways. | ||
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preddo
United States7 Posts
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
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