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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
February 06 2012 21:56 GMT
#321
I'm laughing my ass of at work right now, that was the funniest thing I have ever read
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
IcariumJhag
Profile Joined November 2011
United States21 Posts
February 06 2012 22:09 GMT
#322
Holy Crap that last one from Benzilla had me laughing for a good minute.
You win the internet.

But speaking for the bronzies, you underestimate the impact of panic. Panic can do weird things to people, that is probably the root cause of all this not to mention they probably don't know what A-move means.
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
February 06 2012 22:13 GMT
#323
On February 07 2012 06:56 Felnarion wrote:

It goes on, but the point is that the problem with the blog isn't that he's trolling bronze players, which he clearly is, its that he's being a giant twat about his superiority.

How is this any different than MVP trolling around in diamond and then making a post about how stupid and shitty diamond players are? Why do diamond players not improve beyond diamond, why don't they take a moment to learn what makes them bad, so they can be masters, grandmasters?

No, truthfully, the OP wants an excuse to troll, that's it. He disguises it by being curious, intrigued, fascinated, but at the end of the day, he loves it when he makes someone with less skill so angry that they accuse him of cheating. He relishes it when they just leave at his nonsense. He even messages them afterward asking, more politely and less to the point, "How could you be so stupid?"



Oh I get it, you got that ESPN thing where you can read minds you know what is inside the OP's heart of hearts, right?

You are taking this comedic blog post way too seriously.

Again, the basic skills needed to play this game are provided via the tutorial. Let's use an analogy, cause it's the popular thing to do in this thread.

An idiot is starting his first day of work. His job will be using a machine that cuts things with a blade. He has never used this machine before. But no problem. His boss says "there's the machine, there's the manual, figure it out and get to work." The idiot decides to skip the manual, thinking he can just fuck with it until he figures it out, starts up the machine, and cuts off his own arm.

In the really real world, obviously the boss would be to blame, but let's just look at this philisophically for a second. Who is really at fault here? The idiot was given everything he needed to do what was asked of him, and he chose not to read the book. I'm going to blame the idiot.
gitarrojoe
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany69 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 22:54:31
February 06 2012 22:51 GMT
#324
I want to add something to this discussion. He is getting insulted by the players and then decides to troll them for being ingorant, stupid pricks adn you still defend those bronzies. it wouldnt be hard for the opponents to take a comment like"you couldve won, just a move", the reason why it is, is because there is a big number of people in lower leagues who are bad mannerd, just complaining about imbalance and so on. so the people who want to improve, maybe just bought the game, still lose to gheed worker rushing. they get mad themselfs because people always feel offended by their oponnents playstyle. its ridiculous to limit this game down to some specific match up scenario because its the most effective. Worker rushing is an option that is fun and thats what games are about. you dont have to give in to some narrow minded people.

btw. i think this thread is for fun also!
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
February 06 2012 23:22 GMT
#325
A few moments in this are just priceless I was LMAO at a few parts.

Very interesting, thanks Gheed =D
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
February 07 2012 02:57 GMT
#326
Holy christ, amazing. This puts things into perspective. Sometimes zergs will call me "unbelievably bad" after I beat them with 2 base timing pushes in high masters. This whole series though... good god they are the truly unbelievably terrible players.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
mothergoose729
Profile Joined December 2010
United States666 Posts
February 07 2012 03:09 GMT
#327
On February 07 2012 06:56 Felnarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:13 HackBenjamin wrote:
Holy SHIT.

I read all 16 pages of this, and people need to cut this crying about the poor bronzies out.

This blog was great. The people in bronze who lose to worker rushes have only themselves to blame. If you are playing on a competetive ladder, and you don't know basic things like a-move, of COURSE people will make fun of you. I'm sick of these analogies about bullying and shit, because they do/should not relate to StarCraft2 games. If you are intelligent enough to put in your e-mail address and password and log into Battle.net, the a-move command is not beyond your ability to learn. It is their choice to not try to improve. The game has been out for quite some time now.

Yes, there is a learning curve. Yes, it sucks to be the shitty bronze player who loses to a worker rush. No, we don't need heroes to champion the people of bronze league and put a stop to the injustice of smurfing. Gheed isn't Al-Assad killing civilians here.

5/5 for the blog.


The problem isn't and never was about bronze players losing to a troll player who is smurfing in their league.

Show nested quote +
It's as if they just want to shit out something, anything, to stain the universe with their taint and prove that they were here, that reality exists and they were a part of it.


Show nested quote +
WoW is feel-good everybody-wins garbage; the only redeeming feature it has are 4 of the battlegrounds and the unlimited potential for trolling people who, by just playing the game, have admitted they are at least partially stupid.


Show nested quote +
Why is there such continued stagnation? Do they not tire of their own shittiness and desire to become better?


Show nested quote +
I worker rushed him, he ran away from his base like an idiot


It goes on, but the point is that the problem with the blog isn't that he's trolling bronze players, which he clearly is, its that he's being a giant twat about his superiority.

How is this any different than MVP trolling around in diamond and then making a post about how stupid and shitty diamond players are? Why do diamond players not improve beyond diamond, why don't they take a moment to learn what makes them bad, so they can be masters, grandmasters?

No, truthfully, the OP wants an excuse to troll, that's it. He disguises it by being curious, intrigued, fascinated, but at the end of the day, he loves it when he makes someone with less skill so angry that they accuse him of cheating. He relishes it when they just leave at his nonsense. He even messages them afterward asking, more politely and less to the point, "How could you be so stupid?"

Honestly? If he worker rushed me? I'd probably fucking leave too. Especially when he's Terran. Best case scenario? You win the worker rush with a couple probes/scvs/drones remaining and have to tech all the way up from 3 SCVs to something that flies because he's a giant douche that flies the CC to the corner of the map.


This blog was written for entertainment. If you take anything in it very seriously, you are entirely missing the point.

Honestly, its not likely he is literally studying bronze players, or actually finds anything about the league truly enigmatic. Its satire. Damn good satire. Just read it and be happy.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
February 07 2012 03:11 GMT
#328
On ICCUP, the D- player still usually knew basic builds used by pro players. Bronze in SC2 is like ICCUP Z minus minus minus minus if it existed.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Alfalfa
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada26 Posts
February 07 2012 03:23 GMT
#329
I is really impressive!!! People losing to a worker rush and saying that you are a noob lol... This blog is just amazing!!!!!!
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
February 07 2012 06:39 GMT
#330
haha this is great insight!
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nadshot
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada1 Post
February 07 2012 07:18 GMT
#331
I would be very curious to know if I was one of your worker rush victims. I did in fact resign on seeing the rush incoming, because I suddenly realized I had no idea of what to do, nor any chance of figuring it out on the spot. I had never been worker rushed before, and just decided to go look it up before playing again. Hope I didn't BM you too bad.

RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
February 07 2012 08:28 GMT
#332
Some of this stuff blows your mind. haha.
Someone call down the Thunder?
RayBeans
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany331 Posts
February 07 2012 09:34 GMT
#333
Nice read. I started playing again recently, starting in bronze, and was always wondering how people could have played over a thousand games and are still stuck in bronze (europe). I also can't figure out how they even can have fun. But maybe they don't have fun and that's why they are to badmannered when loosing.

Much respect for your "work" here. I myself have not been workerrushed so far.
eSports with friends & HSV esports e.V. - Hamburg!
perestain
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany308 Posts
February 07 2012 09:53 GMT
#334
So you're ridiculing individual casual players for their skill publicly.
The bm doesnt count here btw, if you harcore cheese people, you will provoke rage in any league.

Good job in trying to transform the community into a bunch of elitist pricks.

Believe it or not, but the game is designed so that people can have fun at any skilllevel, even bronze.
Taking a public shit on casuals/beginners/people who just fool around with the game because you're frustrated with your own skill development is pretty low imo.

Also it is not obvious at all how to defend a worker rush if you never think about it.
I.e. do probes really win a-moving vs drones? After all they are much weaker. Its not exactly intuitive.

I think I only faced one workerrush back in beta, lost, and the guy was pretty nice, told me not to worry and explained it. If I had met someone like you I'd probably have stopped playing back then. I don't feel well in company of people who are so desperate that they need to act insecure about a computer game to boost their egos. Good thing the SC community is usually better than that.
No matter how hot it gets, sooner or later there's a cool breeze coming in.
Fungee
Profile Joined February 2010
Finland42 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 17:49:39
February 07 2012 16:45 GMT
#335
On February 07 2012 17:28 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Some of this stuff blows your mind. haha.


My head started hurting halfway through so I stopped reading.

I think someone in this thread (I skipped it through fast) claimed the OP is trying to ridicule the example players taken from bronze league. That clearly isn't the case. The OP is simply pondering why the bronze league players don't even try to become better at SC2. And if they aren't having fun losing games then why are they even playing Starcraft 2?

EDIT:
On February 07 2012 12:09 mothergoose729 wrote:
This blog was written for entertainment. If you take anything in it very seriously, you are entirely missing the point.

Honestly, its not likely he is literally studying bronze players, or actually finds anything about the league truly enigmatic. Its satire. Damn good satire. Just read it and be happy.


Still strolling around in this thread while my mind wanders. This comment was the most relevant to my interests.
It's easy being an experimentalist. If you fail try again.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 16:49:59
February 07 2012 16:47 GMT
#336
the most interesting game I've had involving worker rush was when I was 6pooling against worker rush. While waiting for the pool to end was a bullet proof way of winning I decided to take my chances in a micro war 6vs6 + 1 worker coming on both sides. Well I started losing and had to flee having 4 drones vs 5. What followed was very micro intensive 3 minutes where I tried to get minerals for lings and he tried to deny me while trying to kill workers or biting hatch when possible. Microing often occured in 2 places at the same time so it was probably also the most apm intensive game of sc2 I've had. Even more funny is that the game was between 2 masters but in customs.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
February 07 2012 17:00 GMT
#337
the only thing funnier than this blog is the replies to it
I drop suckas like Plinko
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
February 07 2012 17:43 GMT
#338
This is amazing lol. Every part of this is epic. I guess the only way to lose is to try to win by not ever building a worker. Also not attacking within the first 8-10 minutes of the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
February 07 2012 17:57 GMT
#339
Man this is so good. Thanks Gheed. Looking forward to your future posts
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
February 07 2012 18:09 GMT
#340
On February 06 2012 00:24 Bruky wrote:
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On February 05 2012 23:38 Bojas wrote:
It's not that he's bullying. He's using a bad strategy and kind of abusing the lack of basic sc2 knowledge of his opponents. It's just 3 minutes of their time. I can't imagine Gheed BMing someone who was friendly.

Knowledge is more like a power in starcraft so in a sense he is more powerful than his opponents if they don't know how to a move. So he is abusing weaker players.
It can be just 3 minutes of their time or maybe it's much more. If somebody gets harvester rushed three times in a row i can see him being even for some time after a game or you can ruin his game so much he wont play anymore. I don't think it's a good thing, do you?
And of course he won't BM someone who is friendly, but he is purposely trying to make them angry so he can post their rage on his blog.
And it's not like he is trying to help them. He could just write them and say "Hey, I'm sorry for doing this strategy. But it is easy to hold. You just box all your workers click A or attack icon and click behind enemy workers and that way they start attacking and you should have much more units."
How can you say it's not bullying? Btw usually bullying starts as a fun for people watching it.

You lose because your opponent a moves his workers on yours. K, gg. You type how to beat worker rush in google. You'll probably find the solution as the first option.
Done. Next time you get matched up with this guy you won't lose, in fact you get a free win, maybe not if it's the 12 drone cheese, but he's not doing that.

I haven't seen Mr. Gheed BM people who don't BM him, so following the bullying logic it would be that you yell at someone who beats you at a game and when he writes some witty response you get angry. Is that bullying?

Btw usually bullying starts as a fun for people watching it.

If they are able to notice they are getting made fun of that means they've got acces to this site, and they won't lose to a worker rush again. There's 2 solutions for not getting made fun of, don't BM in the first place or kill his worker rush and LOL at the silly opponent.
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