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Warning -- This VOD is of me, a newly terran (silver) player and a silver opponent. On the plus side, it's a short video.
I decided to make this video (my first using Fraps) to show a macro exercise I've been doing on the ladder. This is mostly going to be helpful for lower level players (bronze, silver, gold) but others might find it interesting.
I don't remember where I got the specific idea for this exercise (EDIT: apparently it's called Halby's marine drill, there is a link to the battlenet thread in the first comment below), but the concept comes from Day[9] who says that if you want to improve, you should focus on one aspect of your game at a time. The exercise is this: Only build scvs, rax, command centers, marines and depots. Try to keep money low, mule when energy is available and dont get supply blocked. Whenever you have extra money after making scvs and marines, build more rax and expand. Don't get gas! Don't micro marines, just A-move them whenever you get a nice clump.
Here's the video:
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I don't have any facebook or twitter, etc. to promote and I would not recommend you subscribe to me, I'm probably going to be doing these infrequently. If you are interested, this explains why I switched to Terran from Zerg.
Here is what I would like some help with: My next step is to work on mastering one style of play from each matchup. I want to work on a standard macro style. I need some quality terran role models to analyze. I am looking for players that are:
1. Not Korean pros -- I don't want to copy the best of the best because these guys have sooooo many build orders that I am going to have to sift through a bunch of replays to get a lot of the player executing the same style.
2. Not cheesing -- just not what I am interested in.
3. Have replay packs available -- VODs are fun, but I need to be able to study the styles in-depth.
4. Particularly good at/known for a specific match-up.
At another nice user's suggestion, I am working through Pokebunny's reps currently, but I'd like some other players to choose from as well.
Any feedback on the video or my questions is appreciated. Thanks.
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I like this exercise. I think a good idea is after you get a hang of the overall macro, you begin doing small stuff like begin to actually make a build order using this, scouting, small bits of micro all while keeping the macro going. Just adding on small things at a time.
Also, everytime you get above 1k minerals, you have to slam your head against a wall. :D
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Good macro trainer. But Im sure Ive encountered something like this before
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Actually is there an option to queue one marine in all your barracks? I offrace terran and it's a pain in the ass to press a/d for each rax. Really annoying, that action could be going to managing a drop or expanding/teching.
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i wrote a similar guide about learning to be better by use of deprivation. its more so about more then just macro.
the thing i find is that macro is fine but its the combo of macro and micro that make one or the other fail. with this in mind i make my concept about multitasking
its a good idea i think that you most def need to add in a bit more then just "a move every so often" since i dont think anyone will ever have an issue JUST looking at his base
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On December 30 2011 14:24 ohokurwrong wrote:
i wrote a similar guide about learning to be better by use of deprivation. its more so about more then just macro.
the thing i find is that macro is fine but its the combo of macro and micro that make one or the other fail. with this in mind i make my concept about multitasking
its a good idea i think that you most def need to add in a bit more then just "a move every so often" since i dont think anyone will ever have an issue JUST looking at his base
Yeah, it's definitely not the be-all end all of training. It's just an exercise to make you focus on only macro and see the effects. I was just playing around with this today and thought that I got some interesting results.
A next good step would be to look at the multitask trainers on battlenet (I used them a lot learning zerg). After I made the video, I have been playing a bunch of standard games, and my macro is a bit better (and I'm doing drops and making tanks, etc.).
Before someone can macro and micro, they need to be able to just micro.
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its true
i think if you are not scared to lose games on ladder doing games with this in mind works as well but there has yet to be a GREAT method of "training"
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What place are you in silver while doing this?
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On December 30 2011 17:16 Jedclark wrote:
What place are you in silver while doing this?
I was/am around rank 6. When I started my account, I placed in silver, then got promoted to gold, then pretty soon got demoted to silver. I just started the account a few days ago, so my mmr is pretty up and down.
Honestly, to me it doesn't make sense to care about ladder points when I am still trying to learn the basics of the race. I'm just having fun and trying to improve.
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This is a good beginner video to look at but there are some very bad habits being trained in this/these videos. Queuing units is always a bad idea and these videos teach you to queue up to max which is extremely bad.
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On January 19 2012 01:22 EvilZergling wrote:
This is a good beginner video to look at but there are some very bad habits being trained in this/these videos. Queuing units is always a bad idea and these videos teach you to queue up to max which is extremely bad.
I think I explicitly state in the video that a goal is to never queue-- and I don't think there is any queuing happening in the video.
If there is any doubt about my message -- queueing is always bad. Don't do it. The point is to build more production facilities anytime you have more money then you can spend WITHOUT QUEUEING.
Just for clarification, where do I queue or give the impression that one should?
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I'm sorry I was referring to the Halby videos posted by JagerGard up above in this thread. The video has a lot of queueing and actually advocates it.
Your video is pretty solid. I should have been clearer.
^_^
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