• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:27
CEST 03:27
KST 10:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group C Toronto invitational lan 22 august [ASL22] Ro24 Group A [ASL22] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5064 users

"Merry Cheesemas" or "How to not get promoted"

Blogs > Tarotis
Post a Reply
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 17:52:59
December 11 2011 17:23 GMT
#1
Good morinng dear community,
Welcome to my first blog! I hope you enjoy it
I don't even know why I write this, maybe to dismiss my anger about cheese, ladder and everything else, but maybe just out of boredom. I am currently a high Platinum Protoss player who used to win most of his games to get promoted soon (well, today basically, because of the season lock), but then I took an arrow in the knee - cheese . Apart from the fact that I don't even like cheese in the real life (except on pizza!) I want to tell you my story about my ladder day today.
After getting roach rushed dozens of time yesterday (and losing to all of them ;() I hate zerg even more than before. Is it because of the season lock incoming or why is everybody cheesing so much this weekend? Well, I will tell you the story of my first few games today:

Game 1
I played against a fellow Protoss on Metalopolis and guys, now I know what people mean when they say lowground cannons reach the mineral line. Guess what, I got cannon rushed. I still hold it off eventually though! But I had already in mind will smell cheesy again.

Game 2
Another Protoss - another cannon rush. Yep, I am serious. Well, again I eventually hold it off and killed him later in the game, but still: Why is everybody cannon rushing so much? Just because they hate PvP? Colossus wars are so exciting

Suddenly a wild zerg appeared!
Game 3
Ok guys, nothing to see here, normal passive macro game on Metalopolis when suddenly some broodlords behind my eco line at the third. Very abusive *cough*. Well, I lost, I played terrible, My opponent was high diamond though. Promotion inc? Guess not....
The next game was a very normal game, too, I won a Colossi war PvP.

Oh, what do we have here? Another Protoss! Not only are they cheesing, there are simply too much of them!
Game 5
I 9scout and see....a Forge?!? Well, it was Shakuras and he built the forge as wallin at the natural, so I knew he was going FFE while scouting my base properly. Then I had to make the decision: 4gate or Nexus First? I cancelled my Gateway and just threw down my nexus and from there one macro up to 2robo Colossi. The problem: He didnt build a robo. But 3 Stargates. I failed to scout it as my observer crushed into a cannon and I didnt send another one. I should have known something is up and then 10 Void rays appeared out of the shadow, raping my mineral line and buildings. A Zealot/Colossi army isnt that good against this kind of units.....

Game 6
First terran of the day! And I scout? Only marines, nothing else. My alarm bells immeadiately rang, I went 30 supply 2 gas 1 Gate expo, throw down the Robo and 5 gates, killed the first cloak banshee but failed to stop the following 1/1/1 (with SCV's pulled). It was 1 minute earlier than I expected so I had very few units, mostly stalkers and only 1 immortal as I built 3 oberserver to be safe against the banshee Well, now I know how to defend 1/1/1. Atleast I hope so.

Time for breakfast!

Game 7
After eating some bap (not sure about the name, in german its "Brötchen") I wanted to find a game asap. Well, I found an opponent - it was a random. I already prepared mentally for a 6pool, but my opponent dropped out. Lucky win!

Game 10
Another Colossus war and one 10pool into roach/ling allin later I had to fight another zerg. On Tal'Darim. Guess what - mass mutalisk I opened stargate, killed 10 overlods, 5 mutas and some drone swithout losing anything but he just massed mutas, denied my third and I went allin with blink stalkers (not a few!), some zealots and ~10 phoenixes. I got crushed. Is it a premature egrackulation when I tap out when my 2base army is dead, 20 mutas survive and he has 2 base (i killed one hatch) are left? Well, I don't care, I will just do gateway timings on Tal'darim now! Let's see what I am about to face in the next game..

Yup, its a Cannon rush - once again. I guess its time for me to always 9scout. I let a second probe in once again bad as I am Ididnt realize fast enough whats up and even forgot to lay down a forge myself to defend. Well, I suck I guess :D
Before this cannon rush game I got Warp-Prism 4gated. Did i mention how much I hate PvP? I won the game after this and a window popped and I already though; yay, I am diamond!!! Well, no, it was only the achievement for 250 wins as protoss, guess I wont make it today. I am still #4, 30 points behind #3 and 60 points ahead of #5. Guess this will be the case for one more week. Atleast I have a nice Void Ray picture now!

My next game was another PvP. Quite unanticipated no cannon rush but a macro cheese (1gate robo expo or smth which would have died to all kind of aggression). Well, I was busy with his warp prism and then was very far behind ;(
But hey. the world is not boring: I got 6pooled directly after that! Well, he built it at 8 and i had a cannon up at my natural and he just gg'd knowing he was too far behind. Time to take a break and do something for school tomorrow!


Alright, I am back! I don't have done that much things for school, more precisely nothing, but thats :offt :! Let's go into the next game:
Tal'darim Altar against a terran opponent. I scout his bunker and only marine so I know banshees are coming. I delay my nexus for the robo to know exactly what kind of push is coming and I see 2port banshee. As I am still a little noob I have know idea what is coming but still defeat the first 2 banshees without a problem, I even kill one. I realize he will go allin and stop tech/probes and just go mass stalkers as he only built marines/hellions ans banshees. Well, banshees are pretty good! I wanted to place down a stargate but cancel it as I see him pushing. I crush his marines/hellions and the banshees retreat. 5 minutes later he pushs again - with SCV's - and completely c rushes me. Guess I should have rebuilt that Stargate? Well, now I know!

Thats it for me today, but maybe I will be in another league soon. Or maybe not. But one thing is for sure:
When I'm Grandmaster, I will play faster
They'll call me bonjwa, just like my name was Flash
But now I'm just Plat



Thank you for reading it, feedback is very appreciated! I am gonna close StarCraft for today, eat some Pizza (I need more cheese in my life!) and drink some Well, and do stuff for school! Always remember, Starcraft is fun, but school is important for your whole life!

love, gl and hf
Tarotis


ps: Go mana, win the scan invitational! (or take another second place once again ;()

pps: I think I need a song of the day: London Elektricity - The plan that cannot fail!

***
CreatorOfAll
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada14 Posts
December 11 2011 17:42 GMT
#2
hehe nice
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
December 11 2011 17:44 GMT
#3
Somehow some parts of the text got lost, gonna edit a bit now...
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
December 11 2011 17:49 GMT
#4
lol nice. Blizzard believes that you need to work on defending cheese. Obviously, they are correct. Work on your scouting bro or they'll have to start singing in-game vs you that you don't even scout. You don't know whats up!
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 18:00:14
December 11 2011 17:54 GMT
#5
On December 12 2011 02:49 3FFA wrote:
lol nice. Blizzard believes that you need to work on defending cheese. Obviously, they are correct. Work on your scouting bro or they'll have to start singing in-game vs you that you don't even scout. You don't know whats up!

Scouting zergs is not always that easy as a probe dies very fast. Against terran its even harder! But yes, thats probably my main problem at the moment and I try to work at it
evaunit01
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States512 Posts
December 11 2011 18:00 GMT
#6
London Elektricity is awesome!
Gamertag: William T. Riker - My life for Aiur!
PenguinWithNuke
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
250 Posts
December 11 2011 18:30 GMT
#7
I find this weird: all zergs hate protoss and all protosses hate zerg. Is there anyone who likes this matchup? I find this funny because all my protoss friends say "zerg is op" while all my zerg friends say "toss is op".
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 11 2011 19:53 GMT
#8
The trick is to cheese when you are in masters. Few expect it up, and fewer can react properly to it.

Note: by cheese I don't mean cannon rushing. I mean scv-allins every game.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
December 11 2011 19:58 GMT
#9
On December 12 2011 04:53 101toss wrote:
The trick is to cheese when you are in masters. Few expect it up, and fewer can react properly to it.

Note: by cheese I don't mean cannon rushing. I mean scv-allins every game.

I had that yesterday. A guy named Bilbyip. I should have known what is coming and I even thought: is his name inspired by Bitbybit? Well, he denied scouting and triple 12 rax marine/scv allin'd me.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
December 11 2011 20:07 GMT
#10
On December 12 2011 03:30 PenguinWithNuke wrote:
I find this weird: all zergs hate protoss and all protosses hate zerg. Is there anyone who likes this matchup? I find this funny because all my protoss friends say "zerg is op" while all my zerg friends say "toss is op".

Nah man all zergs hate zergs
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
December 11 2011 21:06 GMT
#11
On December 12 2011 03:30 PenguinWithNuke wrote:
I find this weird: all zergs hate protoss and all protosses hate zerg. Is there anyone who likes this matchup? I find this funny because all my protoss friends say "zerg is op" while all my zerg friends say "toss is op".


Zergs simply hate whiney cheesy races that only know how to do stuff off of one base or two base all ins until they take a third and turtle up hard. Protoss are simply jealous of our free three bases and because of their combined rage from PvP they direct their anger at building cannons into our naturals.

Meanwhile, the magnificent Zerg player, with his trillion IQ and 600 apm, gets stuck in gold because people keep cheesing him. With his calculated decision he decides to stab the Protoss in the heart where it hurts, baneling busting right through forges and pylons.

The Protoss player, distrought and complaining about not having a boat unit so they can travel over their tears, decides to go for a 4 gate instead of a cannon rush but gets shut down by the tactical genious of the glorious zerg player, 6 pool drone allinning him.

Depressed, the slightly dimwitted Protoss player admits to his primal cheese urges, opening dark templar in every PvZ he meets. Within 10 games, he is insta-grand mastered while the Zerg player, more skilled and probably more endowed, gets stomped into bronze. The Zerg player quickly respondes in the next game by metagaming the Protoss however, going Lair as soon as possible and buliding 12 overseers. The dark templar are now so visible to the Zerg player that the sheer ugliness of its appearance makes the Zerg forget injections, zergling speed, and to build units. The dark templar still kill him off but atleast the Zerg managed to contaminate every building of the Protoss.

The zerg players, convinced that they deserved to forge the world out of their unending knowledge of the game, accumulate on the forums to downvote anything related to Protoss and Terran and talk high of every Zerg player that attackmoves into armies effectively.

And this is why we hate eachother. It's nothing personal or imbalanced, just that on one hand there's beautiful, talented and tactical masterminds whereas on the other side there are jealous, sad people wishing they had as much stuff as the Zerg.

@OP : I get what you mean, in general cheese doesn't hurt me much but cannon rushes just enrage me more than anything and will probably effect the next couple of games.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
December 11 2011 21:14 GMT
#12
On December 12 2011 03:30 PenguinWithNuke wrote:
I find this weird: all zergs hate protoss and all protosses hate zerg. Is there anyone who likes this matchup? I find this funny because all my protoss friends say "zerg is op" while all my zerg friends say "toss is op".


PvZ is definitely my favorite matchup. The lack of scouting you can do vs Terran infuriates me when I prepare for a normal 111 and they end up doing something else like 2 port banshee. But vs Zerg, I love how all of the Protoss units synergize really well together and hallucination scouts show you exactly what's up.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 11 2011 22:04 GMT
#13
Haha this was a great read and sry friend but it doesn't get better in diamond lolol.
Greed leads to just about all losses.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 22:19:48
December 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#14
later I had to fight another zerg. On Tal'Darim. Guess what - mass mutalisk

We are related.




Zergs simply hate whiney cheesy races that only know how to do stuff off of one base or two base all ins until they take a third and turtle up hard. Protoss are simply jealous of our free three bases and because of their combined rage from PvP they direct their anger at building cannons into our naturals.

Meanwhile, the magnificent Zerg player, with his trillion IQ and 600 apm, gets stuck in gold because people keep cheesing him. With his calculated decision he decides to stab the Protoss in the heart where it hurts, baneling busting right through forges and pylons.

The Protoss player, distrought and complaining about not having a boat unit so they can travel over their tears, decides to go for a 4 gate instead of a cannon rush but gets shut down by the tactical genious of the glorious zerg player, 6 pool drone allinning him.

Depressed, the slightly dimwitted Protoss player admits to his primal cheese urges, opening dark templar in every PvZ he meets. Within 10 games, he is insta-grand mastered while the Zerg player, more skilled and probably more endowed, gets stomped into bronze. The Zerg player quickly respondes in the next game by metagaming the Protoss however, going Lair as soon as possible and buliding 12 overseers. The dark templar are now so visible to the Zerg player that the sheer ugliness of its appearance makes the Zerg forget injections, zergling speed, and to build units. The dark templar still kill him off but atleast the Zerg managed to contaminate every building of the Protoss.

The zerg players, convinced that they deserved to forge the world out of their unending knowledge of the game, accumulate on the forums to downvote anything related to Protoss and Terran and talk high of every Zerg player that attackmoves into armies effectively.

And this is why we hate eachother. It's nothing personal or imbalanced, just that on one hand there's beautiful, talented and tactical masterminds whereas on the other side there are jealous, sad people wishing they had as much stuff as the Zerg.

@OP : I get what you mean, in general cheese doesn't hurt me much but cannon rushes just enrage me more than anything and will probably effect the next couple of games.

Um, sorry...

@OP, gl hf~ Keep gaminG!
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
i_imperator
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Ireland94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 23:27:12
December 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#15
I know your pain even though I'm Terran, I've lost 6 games in a row tonight and 5 of them were to cheese. seriously its getting crazy at this point, I've had 10 games today and have only won two of them (which were macro games bdw, tvz). At least ive learnt that if they pull off alll their workers to kill your scouting scv, its probably cheese.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
December 14 2011 23:35 GMT
#16
lol just one of those days gl dealing with it in the future!
LiquidDota Staff
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 15 2011 00:40 GMT
#17
o.O 6 games before breakfast.

I envy your lifestyle.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE154
ProTech128
RuFF_SC2 59
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 1120
MaD[AoV]18
Dota 2
The International8519
XaKoH 839
NeuroSwarm214
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift4583
JimRising 569
Counter-Strike
minikerr57
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox636
Mew2King99
Other Games
summit1g7135
C9.Mang0346
ToD225
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1137
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH420
• Hupsaiya 104
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra967
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 33m
PiG Sty Festival
10h 33m
Solar vs Reynor
Serral vs TBD
OSC
14h 33m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 8h
hero vs ggaemo
Larva vs Mong
The Patches Monday
1d 14h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.