• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:51
CEST 08:51
KST 15:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)73Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4) StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft Sagi.gg Launcher Released Fantasy returning? BSL Season 23 Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7122 users

Getting Started. I want to be like a Terran Idra!

Blogs > TG Manny
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
December 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1
Hello and welcome everyone to climbing up the ladder, Idra style! I am a silver level Terran player in SC2, my first RTS game. Over this break I'd like to improve my SC2 ability and decision making in order to climb the ranks and be a more informed watcher of GSL/MLG as well as be a part of the conversation on TeamLiquid forums as well.

You may have noticed that I want to climb the ladder Idra style as a Terran. I'd like to elaborate. I really like terran mechanics and would rather not switch to zerg as I can hardly hold terran simplistic macro mechanics as it stands. In the same vein of Idra (minus raging over cheese), I'd like to be able to just crush the enemy with a massive amount of units mid-late game and use map control to keep myself ahead in expos (even in case of zerg). How will I try to do this? First, I will be attempting to 1raxFE on all matchups except on Xel'Naga (in which I'll opt for faster factory vsT/Z or added rax vP) and then focus on being ahead in upgrades, expansions, and unit producing facilities. I prefer bio play at this time so it will be reflected that you'll see me opt for 12 rax late game with 2 reactor port for medivacs and run my marines through a meat grinder while taking several expansions.

I know I am silver and have high expectations but I really would like to bring my story to the community whether it is in failure or success. In failure, you guys can know how to help fledgling players get their mechanics and 'style' down better because of what failed for me and my feedback to things like “macro better” or “scout more”. In success you can celebrate my new skills with me and be a part of the community.

Goals (short-term):
-Play three games a day, look at each replay from all perspective and then mine. Used to find TIMINGS and PATTERN RECOGNITION.

-Learn to change unit composition slightly when facing difficulty. (IE, add a second factory for tanks if lots of banes vZ)

-Be able to hold any cheese opener with 1rax while continuing to make workers and throw down an expo.

-Find a good reaction to 4-gate from protoss.

Goals (long term):
- Find a good 'team' or practice partners and learn to practice well off of ladder
-learn to micro early units to apply pressure to Z while maintaining safety at my expo.
-Be able to take a BO5 from similar level players
-Stream for anyone who may want to watch this lulzworthy performance.

Currently:
Online, trying to fix games.

Current Trends in-Game:
Able to hold out, but early 'cheesy but not really' pressure hurts me but I can hold. Recently hit by 3-reaper, then 9 reaper harassment. I should have just pushed but I held and had 3 to 1 expos. Game lasted forever, he transitioned to BCs and I got ~30 vikings and ups to push FTW. Game lasted way to long, though.

Games lasting forever and letting opponents catch up in upgrades.

No one can kill me due to upgrades/added production once I get to 10 minute...But I can't kill them.

As any newer player I'd love extra support, coaching, and criticism. I have a long way to go but the more involved I am with the community the easier it is for me to stick to my goals.


*
Singularity is at hand...
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 10 2011 19:35 GMT
#2
You should try a bio style. ^^ I've been off-racing as Terran and managed to beat Masters Zergs and Terrans with pure bio.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
December 10 2011 19:40 GMT
#3
I do enjoy biocentric play. I want to eventually get to very good marine control so I can drop more effectively vs Z and pressure with smaller amounts of marines than, say, 70. Which eat everything when up 2 armor and 2 weapon upgrades.
Singularity is at hand...
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
December 10 2011 19:41 GMT
#4
You should add drop out of college and going pro as one of your long term goals.
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
December 10 2011 19:43 GMT
#5
On December 11 2011 04:41 The_LiNk wrote:
You should add drop out of college and going pro as one of your long term goals.


I'd rather not I like class too much and SC2 not enough (atm lol). Plus I'd like my girlfriend to not break up with me.
Singularity is at hand...
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
December 10 2011 19:51 GMT
#6
Look at some games from MVP o/ his macro and timing pushes are just scary.
I am Latedi.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 10 2011 19:59 GMT
#7
I wish you luck! However I feel that only playing 3 games a day will make the improvement take really really long. 3 games is about an hour or a little less of actual gametime. You could easily play 6-10 games in 2-3hours tops, and it would help just as much as taking the time to analyze your mistakes. Basically, you want to give youself as many chances as you can to correct the mistakes you are currently doing, and only playing 3 games a day gives you 3 chances to get things right, before noticing more mistakes etc. The more games you play, the more opportunities you have to correct the mistakes you noticed prior to that gaming session. If you are short on time, then its understandable, but I would highly suggest doubling it to *at least* 6 games a day.
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
December 10 2011 20:15 GMT
#8
I understand you notion, eXigent and I really appreciate the advice. But the majorit of my games run 25-35 minutes game clock, a longer game being 45 minutes. (and I know that runs faster).

As my avg game time lowers and my free time goes up the games per day will increase. If I know I can play a game in 10 minutes as opposed to 45 then I'd feel better starting another game

Onto game 2 today,

Game 1 vT, won with upgraded marines around 20 minutes clocktime supported by 2 fac tanks. Enemy had made thors (?) in response. Tanked the tanks hard but my marine count and upgrades ate the enemy alive. At one point lost all my marines but 8 reactor rax replenished quickly.
Singularity is at hand...
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
December 10 2011 20:20 GMT
#9
Game 2 vT on Shak Plateau again. Got 2 rax all-ind but didn't recognize quickly enough for bunkers to finish (were ALMOST done too!)

Game 3 vP
Singularity is at hand...
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
December 10 2011 20:30 GMT
#10
Game 3vP on Shak was a DT warp prism play. He warped in 8(?) dts on one base w/ red health. They overwhelmed my marine count by mismicro
Singularity is at hand...
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
December 10 2011 21:03 GMT
#11
Game 4 had usual problem. Bio center play held off mech expansion long enough. I eventually had 9 expos to his two and just waited for him to quit after drop harassing with my marines. Took out important tech first (fusion core) and killed lots of workers.

May post up replay. I won, but I shouldn't have.
Singularity is at hand...
heroofcanton
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States167 Posts
December 10 2011 22:12 GMT
#12
On December 11 2011 04:43 TG Manny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 04:41 The_LiNk wrote:
You should add drop out of college and going pro as one of your long term goals.


I'd rather not I like class too much and SC2 not enough (atm lol). Plus I'd like my girlfriend to not break up with me.


Congratulations on not being stupid and 14. I support you and your rational goals for improvement.
The hero of Canton, the man they call me.
Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
December 10 2011 22:15 GMT
#13
don't be the IdrA that cancels his CC against probe harass.
Dess.JadeFalcon
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 22:17:55
December 10 2011 22:17 GMT
#14
Idra would probably use mech every game in every matchup and complain about it so you should try that.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
December 10 2011 22:20 GMT
#15
Playing terran like idra is... interesting

RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
December 10 2011 22:56 GMT
#16
./hasn't watched video yet.

That looks like SC1 gameplay and I am relatively new (got game over summer, on again and off again. Now watching GSL/MLG to look for improving DECISION MAKING (not build orders)

Currently 7-2 on the day. Had a shaky start but my unit control is getting stronger, though my expo timings are getting weaker. Also starting to face gold opponents.

P.S. is zerg metagame changing? I'm seeing a lot of early lings (like 20) that are map controlling vs me. I am not having an issue since I'm pulling even/ahead in econ vs early zerg because of it but I was reading them as all-inning until I saw semi-delayed 4 gasses and knew spiretech was coming.

Games ARE getting shorter, now. But enemies are trying to engage/get map control once my tanks push out a little farther on the map to secure 3rd and losing everything. Drop play is also helping. Won me my last game (vZ, attacked 7 and 9 o clock mineral lines and completely cleared as ling/bling.muta was moving across map to make a kill shot).
Singularity is at hand...
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 23:03 GMT
#17
There is no such thing as a metagame in silver league, dude.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 11 2011 00:03 GMT
#18
Watch that video. You'll understand it.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 11 2011 00:10 GMT
#19
On December 11 2011 04:43 TG Manny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 04:41 The_LiNk wrote:
You should add drop out of college and going pro as one of your long term goals.


I'd rather not I like class too much and SC2 not enough (atm lol). Plus I'd like my girlfriend to not break up with me.


that's what fangirls at major events are for!

Heyooo
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 11 2011 00:20 GMT
#20
terran idra? lol
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyun 62
NotJumperer 42
sorry 41
Bale 36
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Noble 10
Britney 0
Dota 2
febbydoto195
League of Legends
JimRising 577
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King125
Other Games
summit1g7972
Coldzera 728
WinterStarcraft416
ceh9364
C9.Mang0339
NeuroSwarm105
Sick44
ViBE17
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick642
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream40
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Letter148
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2276
League of Legends
• Rush1234
• Lourlo1013
• Stunt354
• Jankos102
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
3h 9m
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
4h 9m
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
17h 9m
Patches Events
1d 9h
The PondCast
2 days
INu's Battles
2 days
Percival vs TBD
TBD vs herO
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
3 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.