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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 12:20:16
December 09 2011 00:16 GMT
#1
Hi anyone and everyone who is reading this blog. I've always had some ideas on what my government (United Kingdom) should do with regards to policy, expenditure and tax, so I thought I would write all my ideas down and then make a blog about it, so here goes.

Expenditure

Privatise National Health Service (NHS) - Provide a subsidy for anyone earning less than the new 2nd highest rate of income tax.

Currently the only incentive for doctors etc to treat you well is because they "care", doctor get paid whether you live or die and whether they treat you badly or well, whether they treat you promptly or have hours waiting in A&E. I believe a private health care system will be more effecient and will allow me to save a lot of money to be given out in tax cuts to boost the economy and get people working and lead to greater prosperity for all.

Reduce all Benefits levels by 15% (see VAT tax reduction)

Will give me greater scope for reducing taxes and in real terms is likely to be an increase in benefits due to all the tax cuts, but will have to be tested.

Cut university funding to all "bad" universities (Any universities that firms regard degrees as effectively pointless and a college course would be just as good)

Effectively to cut away the waste of university spending, people are usually better working or taking an apprenticeship than going to these universities and may allow for reduced tution fees depending on the funds avaliable.


Evaluate all government advice/charitable agencies/organisations with regards to reducing funding up to and including a 100% reduction.

To look for saving to fund tax decreases and eliminate any effectively pointless agencies like the "wine advice agency" etc.

Look into part privatisation of education. (scrapped)

Increase science research and development spending by at least 100%.

New Technology is one of the keys to economic growth and prosperity to all with new medicines, energy etc and so I believe funding should be dramaticly increased.

Evaluate all religious,cultural and recreational funding.

Much of this funding is missused and wasted, so I would evaluate all of it.

Evaluate all employment,enterprise and environment spending.

Again alot of it is missused and wasted on unsuccessful projects.

Cut all European Union Funding. (see Other)

Increase Defence budget by approximately 50% 25%

To better equip our troops and provide better aftercare and to increase the effectiveness of British defence from terrorism and cyber attacks.

*new* Evaluate all foreign aid to better target people in need.

*new* 10% Subsidy for all offshore nuclear power stations.

The UK will face an energy crises if something is not done soon and I believe nuclear power is the way to go as long as it is managed properly and reactors and safety procedures are kept up-to-date.

Tax

Reduce Value added Tax (VAT) to 5% from 20%

Regressive Tax and a reduction will help promote growth.

Scrap all fuel duty

The price of petrol is in every single product a ~60% reduction of the price of petrol should decrease the value of all goods, allowing creation for more jobs and attract lots of foreign direct investment from companies abroad.

Various Income Tax Changes - No one pays tax below £20,000 a year.
£20,000-£35,000 10%
£35,000-£75,000 20%
£75,000+ 30%

To help attract the most skilled people to the UK and to keep the already skilled people we have from moving abroad. Also should help work pay for people on benefits as they will pay no income tax untill they earn more than £20,000.

Scrap National Insurance

A tax on jobs is completely unacceptable when 20% of young people cant find a job, again this should help businesses be able to hire more people and get the economy moving.

Increase Taxes on (*new*, Non Pub/restaurant) alcohol, tobacco and betting.

To fund other tax decreases and discourage binge drinking, smoking and debt.

New Tax on legalised drugs at 60% (see Laws and regulation)

Adds a good source of revenue for the government.

Reduce corporation tax - Main rate to 15%
- Small profits rate to 5%
- Special rate to 10%.

To encourage more foreign direct investment and to give our companies and edge in this globalised world.

Half all capital gains taxes. Scrapped

Reduce inheritance tax to 35%. Scrapped

Double all Stamp duty rates but provide 0% Stamp duty for first time buyers.

The housing bubble was one of the reasons for the financial crash, I've increased this tax to discourage people from using property to make money but also provided no tax for first time buyers to help them get onto the property ladder.

5% Tax break for all new nuclear power stations.

To encourage the construction of more nuclear power stations to prevent an energy crises


Laws and regulation

Legalise many currently illegal drugs on the advice of doctors such as cannabis with strict regulation and a new 60% tax on all of the newly legalised drugs.

Many Health professionals believe that people will be better off with a heavily regulated legal drug system, it helps prevent crime and takes away revenue from dangerous criminals.

Price control of all products directly affected by fuel duty for one year to enforce a reduction in price.

To make sure that the petrol companies dont just take a 60% increase in profits.

Legalise Personal piracy for a product that has been released for one year or more.

I think alot of copyright laws are very overdone and I think one year is enough time for a person/company to make money on their product.

Set up the Nuclear Power Regulatory Comity (NPRC) to inspect all nuclear power stations every year for safety and to decide on any future regulation.

To regulate the new power stations and to keep the public safe from any however unlikely nuclear disaster.

Merge all U.K. Competition authorities into one organisation and relax monopoly regulation.

To save money by merging the authorities, monopolies and oligopolies also provide dynamic efficiency which is key for an economy moving forward. If every market was perfectly competitive you would never get any new products such as your phones or your computer or new medicines.

Ban smoking and Drug use in all non-private areas (including cars.)

To reduce the effect of passive smoking to its absolute miminmum.

New government Rule - Magic Formula - The British Government may only run a budget deficit in recessions or extreme economic circumstances.

A market economy based on debt is worse than communism, we need a market economy without debt and governments should lead from the front with this ideal.

Semi-Legalise Polygamy - Must marry all at the same time/place as to not deceive.

If you can have an affair and thats not illegal why is it illegal if you love two people and they love you, to not be able to be married together.

*new* Fully legalise gay marriage

People should be able to marry no matter what sex they are.

Other

Leave the European Union but promote free trade and immigration with all "friendly" countries. (Free trade should be the neutral/default position)

I will change this to leave the European Union if an agreement can be kept with most countries to at least keep free trade and hopefully free immigration aswell.

Seek invasion of Iran through the UN Security Council with NATO to remove the nuclear threat. Scrapped but keep a very close eye on them and do not rule out invasion in the future.

Attempt to extend "Parliament Life" to eight years with a referendum after five years.

Most current government policies are very short term, I would like to help politicians create more long term policies to help the country.

More actively Persue Tax evaders

Might not be needed but may increase tax revenue slightly

So those are my current policies so would you elect me?

Poll: Would You elect me?

No (43)
 
96%

Yes (2)
 
4%

Would Need More information (0)
 
0%

Dont care (0)
 
0%

45 total votes

Your vote: Would You elect me?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Would Need More information
(Vote): Dont care



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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 09 2011 00:25 GMT
#2
Based on my (admittedly slim) understanding of UK politics, along with context, I'd vote for you. Winning the election is a different story.

Given that I'm an ignorant American, could you enlighten me on how important religion is to the UK? In the US, religion is incredibly important in many aspects of our lives. Is it the same way with you folks across the pond? I ask, because one of your campaign promises is to reevaluate religous funding. If a potential candidate said that in the US, his chances of winning would literally drop to zero.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 00:29:36
December 09 2011 00:26 GMT
#3
In my experiance religion isn't really that important to the whole population, to some people its very important but as ive stated I would only evaluate funding. I can definately say religion is not as extreme as the US.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 09 2011 00:33 GMT
#4
A few more questions, if you'll humor me: What exactly do you mean by "Parliament Life"? Are you referring to term limits? If so, what is your reasoning for extending them?
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
December 09 2011 00:35 GMT
#5
Parliament life is if i get elected today currently im there for 5 years providing i can hold a majority, so i want to extend that to 8 years to promote more long term policies from governments and less short sited rushed policies.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 09 2011 00:36 GMT
#6
I see. Thanks for informing me! :D
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
December 09 2011 00:37 GMT
#7
no problem (now vote for me )
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 09 2011 00:40 GMT
#8
Lol i couldn't decide if this is serious or not but you are

Your policies seem so incredibly arbitrary - why not provide reasons for them?

Reasoning behind dropping the inheritence tax? Corporate tax? etc i mean if your answer is "i think they are too high" then i will probably never enter this thread again. What are the implications of doing these things? How do you not run a budget deficit after scrapping all these taxes? Seems like your counting on a lot of things without any reasoning?
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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 00:45:49
December 09 2011 00:42 GMT
#9
On December 09 2011 09:25 Aeres wrote:
Given that I'm an ignorant American, could you enlighten me on how important religion is to the UK? In the US, religion is incredibly important in many aspects of our lives. Is it the same way with you folks across the pond? I ask, because one of your campaign promises is to reevaluate religous funding. If a potential candidate said that in the US, his chances of winning would literally drop to zero.


I know he already answered but I would say that politically religion is of little concern. I understand that in the US, a non Christian candidate is basically a no go? Not so here, even slightly. In my experience, in fact, it's relatively rare to meet anyone who is a christian.

EDIT: No doubt he is much more in danger of losing votes with the whole 'privatise the NHS' thing. I can imagine that going down badly.

I mean, the current government is trying to do as much as they can to put NHS funding in private hands but they do it on the sly (saying that they are handing power to GPs, who are actually going to outsource it, at least that's my understanding) while outwardly their policy is that the NHS is a national institution that must not be torn down.

If I could ask the OP, why would you want to privatise it anyway?
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
December 09 2011 00:47 GMT
#10
On December 09 2011 09:40 bkrow wrote:
Lol i couldn't decide if this is serious or not but you are

Your policies seem so incredibly arbitrary - why not provide reasons for them?

Reasoning behind dropping the inheritence tax? Corporate tax? etc i mean if your answer is "i think they are too high" then i will probably never enter this thread again. What are the implications of doing these things? How do you not run a budget deficit after scrapping all these taxes? Seems like your counting on a lot of things without any reasoning?


The reasoning for lowering taxes is to promote economic growth and greater prosperity for all especially the corporation tax and income tax decreases. Privatising the NHS will cut around 15% of government expenditure so i have a fair bit to work with that. Plus I also believe tax revenue will not fall proportionately, as i reduce taxes the economy will grow, more people will work so i get more tax revenue from that and I also believe less people will try to avoid it at the lower rates as what is the point? Of course tax revenue overall will fall but not by the same percentage decrease as the tax rate.
JonnyClark
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom79 Posts
December 09 2011 00:48 GMT
#11
absolutely no way would i vote for you. though, i usually vote for green/labour so you wouldn't be appealing to me in the first place. anyway, your opinions seem to be a bit up in the air. do you have any economics knowledge to justify the %'s you decided on?
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
December 09 2011 00:49 GMT
#12
On December 09 2011 09:42 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:25 Aeres wrote:
Given that I'm an ignorant American, could you enlighten me on how important religion is to the UK? In the US, religion is incredibly important in many aspects of our lives. Is it the same way with you folks across the pond? I ask, because one of your campaign promises is to reevaluate religous funding. If a potential candidate said that in the US, his chances of winning would literally drop to zero.


I know he already answered but I would say that politically religion is of little concern. I understand that in the US, a non Christian candidate is basically a no go? Not so here, even slightly. In my experience, in fact, it's relatively rare to meet anyone who is a christian.

EDIT: No doubt he is much more in danger of losing votes with the whole 'privatise the NHS' thing. I can imagine that going down badly.

I mean, the current government is trying to do as much as they can to put NHS funding in private hands but they do it on the sly (saying that they are handing power to GPs, who are actually going to outsource it, at least that's my understanding) while outwardly their policy is that the NHS is a national institution that must not be torn down.

If I could ask the OP, why would you want to privatise it anyway?


Two main reasons for wants to privatise the NHS, 1. I believe the overall level of health care is bad and i think the private sector could do a better job and its not really a Public Good/service. 2. it costs a ridiculous amount of money for the government and therefore people and businesses through taxes each year.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
December 09 2011 00:50 GMT
#13
On December 09 2011 09:48 JonnyClark wrote:
absolutely no way would i vote for you. though, i usually vote for green/labour so you wouldn't be appealing to me in the first place. anyway, your opinions seem to be a bit up in the air. do you have any economics knowledge to justify the %'s you decided on?


Im doing a degree in economics.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 09 2011 00:55 GMT
#14
Or you can just move here Zaros. We can trade passports or something.
Thank God and gunrun.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
December 09 2011 00:57 GMT
#15
On December 09 2011 09:55 Primadog wrote:
Or you can just move here Zaros. We can trade passports or something.


No thank you, i dont like the US.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 01:01:16
December 09 2011 01:00 GMT
#16
I'm not sure no would be a strong enough term to express my opinion on those changes, but I clicked it for lack of a stronger worded opposition. Here are some notes on why:

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 09 2011 09:16 Zaros wrote:

Expenditure

Privatise National Health Service (NHS) - Provide a subsidy for anyone earning less than the new 2nd highest rate of income tax.

The NHS whilst already suffering major budget cuts in a bid to force quality down and sell it off piece by piece to the private sector is already having privatisation bids have a terrible impact on healthcare. PFI initiatives are already the biggest single cause of NHS related debt, and a for-profit system will only further reduce care whilst driving up costs. We can already see the result of private healthcare and insurance in the US and whilst it may only be a matter of years before we end up there here, rushing towards it would eradicate all hope of keeping a free at the point of use, universal healthcare system.

We should instead immediately remove the private sector from the NHS, cut debts to PFI scheme's and invest in jobs and training throughout hospitals in the UK.

Reduce all Benefits levels by 15% (see VAT tax reduction)

Provided that benefits were increased and reduced in line with VAT to result in the same spending power this may be acceptable, but current benefit levels are already too low with most cash issues arising from the poorly written legislation and failed economic policies of creating jobs, not from those on benefits being over paid. At a time with the highest youth unemplyment rate in the history of our country we should be very careful about penalising those with no options.

Cut university funding to all "bad" universities (Any universities that firms regard degrees as effectively pointless and a college course would be just as good(potentially leave only 120 universities across the UK))

All university education should be free. End fee's and ensure there are enough quality positions for everyone.

Evaluate all government advice/charitable agencies/organisations with regards to reducing funding up to and including a 100% reduction.

Such a vague statement it's impossible to oppose, but it would depend on the results of the evaluation.

Look into part privatisation of education.

NO. For-profit education is a truely terrible idea. Education should be independant, of a strict quality and free for all.

Increase science research and development spending by at least 100%.

I'm not expert enough to know the results of this for jobs and opportunites in the UK, and I wonder if you are?

Evaluate all religious,cultural and recreational funding.

Again, evaluation is fine if it is with a goal to improving services and value for money without cutting services or jobs.

Evaluate all employment,enterprise and environment spending.

Another vague "evaluate" that could not be judged until after propsals were made.

Cut all European Union Funding.

I'm not a fan of the EU, but this is actually insane. Cutting innapropriate funding is one thing but to decide to basically cut all ties with the EU is to leave the UK with little to no trading options and a potentially politically hostile environment in which to try to secure stronger growth.

Increase Defence budget by approximately 50%

There is no reason for such an increase, we don't need to be spending more money on imperialist conquest. Better care for returning soldiers and their families, but I'm not convined by your seemingly random number, nor am I intimately familiar with the UK defense budget allocations as it stands, or that simply throwing 50% more money at them will help.

Tax

Reduce Value added Tax (VAT) to 5% from 20%

Scrap all fuel duty

Various Income Tax Changes - No one pays tax below £20,000 a year.
£20,000-£35,000 10%
£35,000-£75,000 20%
£75,000+ 30%

Scrap National Insurance

Increase Taxes on alcohol, tobacco and betting.

New Tax on legalised drugs at 60% (see Laws and regulation)

Reduce corporation tax - Main rate to 15%
- Small profits rate to 5%
- Special rate to 10%.

Half all capital gains taxes.

Reduce inheritance tax to 35%.

Double all Stamp duty rates but provide 0% Stamp duty for first time buyers.

5% Tax break for all new nuclear power stations.


These tax plans are so regressive as to be almost confused with an attempt to wipe out the poor by way of starvation and lack of services. 5% VAT, no National Insurance (on top of your earlier plan for priavte education and healthcare????) with tax on things most likely used by poorer members of society whilst providing massive tax breaks to the rich? The same rich who already owe more in tax than every form of benefit fraud put together several times over? The only thing that would be universally helpful is the fuel duty plan which in itself would be extremly short sighted.

Laws and regulation

Legalise many currently illegal drugs on the advice of doctors such as cannabis with strict regulation and a new 60% tax on all of the newly legalised drugs.

Price control of all products directly affected by fuel duty for one year to enforce a reduction in price.

This would be redundant as if the prices were to rise steeply they would do so at the end of that year anyway, but most likely competition would in this instance force prices lower either way. The only way to ensure constant fair prices is to nationalise the industry.

Legalise Personal piracy for a product that has been released for one year or more.

Set up the Nuclear Power Regulatory Comity (NPRC) to inspect all nuclear power stations every year for safety and to decide on any future regulation.

This would be redundant based on current inspection and safety guidelines.

Merge all U.K. Competition authorities into one organisation and relax monopoly regulation.

Preventing monopolys is a good thing, even in capitalist societys.

Ban smoking and Drug use in all non-private areas (including cars.)

New government Rule - Magic Formula - The British Government may only run a budget deficit in recessions or extreme economic circumstances.

Given the way that most government spending works that would be interesting to see attempted. Not that I'm against the idea in principal though.

Semi-Legalise Polygamy - Must marry all at the same time/place as to not deceive.

Hardly the most pressing issue but if people are desperate for it (is anyone?) then I imagine it oculd be looked in to, remembering to consider all the taxation, housing and family issues that would arise.

Other

Leave the European Union but promote free trade and immigration with all "friendly" countries. (Free trade should be the neutral/default position)

As someone who doesn't support the EU (which is run almost entirely against the best interests of the people of Europe) simply leaving is completely the wrong call.

Seek invasion of Iran through the UN Security Council with NATO to remove the nuclear threat.

There is currently no reason to invade Iran.

Attempt to extend "Parliament Life" to eight years with a referendum after five years.

All politicians should be subject to recall if they're no longer representing their voters sufficiently. 4-5 years is already too long, 8 years should be out of the question. So no.

More actively Persue Tax evaders

With your plan to reduce taxes on them by so much and at the same time serve massive sections of public jobs up for free profit, you just might not have to chase them anymore.

So those are my current policies so would you elect me?

I would actively fight against your election on those policies.
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OhDeezy
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom54 Posts
December 09 2011 01:00 GMT
#17
On December 09 2011 09:49 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:42 The KY wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:25 Aeres wrote:
Given that I'm an ignorant American, could you enlighten me on how important religion is to the UK? In the US, religion is incredibly important in many aspects of our lives. Is it the same way with you folks across the pond? I ask, because one of your campaign promises is to reevaluate religous funding. If a potential candidate said that in the US, his chances of winning would literally drop to zero.


I know he already answered but I would say that politically religion is of little concern. I understand that in the US, a non Christian candidate is basically a no go? Not so here, even slightly. In my experience, in fact, it's relatively rare to meet anyone who is a christian.

EDIT: No doubt he is much more in danger of losing votes with the whole 'privatise the NHS' thing. I can imagine that going down badly.

I mean, the current government is trying to do as much as they can to put NHS funding in private hands but they do it on the sly (saying that they are handing power to GPs, who are actually going to outsource it, at least that's my understanding) while outwardly their policy is that the NHS is a national institution that must not be torn down.

If I could ask the OP, why would you want to privatise it anyway?


Two main reasons for wants to privatise the NHS, 1. I believe the overall level of health care is bad and i think the private sector could do a better job and its not really a Public Good/service. 2. it costs a ridiculous amount of money for the government and therefore people and businesses through taxes each year.

What do you base your views on the quality of healthcare on? I know someone who works for Bupa (and has worked in the NHS) and she informs me that while you might get a comfier bed with Bupa if you actually have something wrong with you then you should go to the NHS.

Privatising the NHS would save the government a lot of money. But whose footing the bill for health insurance? Businesses. Some of the biggest proponents of nationalising healthcare in the US are businesses, since the cost for healthcare is so high.

I would never vote for you.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
December 09 2011 01:03 GMT
#18
On December 09 2011 10:00 OhDeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:49 Zaros wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:42 The KY wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:25 Aeres wrote:
Given that I'm an ignorant American, could you enlighten me on how important religion is to the UK? In the US, religion is incredibly important in many aspects of our lives. Is it the same way with you folks across the pond? I ask, because one of your campaign promises is to reevaluate religous funding. If a potential candidate said that in the US, his chances of winning would literally drop to zero.


I know he already answered but I would say that politically religion is of little concern. I understand that in the US, a non Christian candidate is basically a no go? Not so here, even slightly. In my experience, in fact, it's relatively rare to meet anyone who is a christian.

EDIT: No doubt he is much more in danger of losing votes with the whole 'privatise the NHS' thing. I can imagine that going down badly.

I mean, the current government is trying to do as much as they can to put NHS funding in private hands but they do it on the sly (saying that they are handing power to GPs, who are actually going to outsource it, at least that's my understanding) while outwardly their policy is that the NHS is a national institution that must not be torn down.

If I could ask the OP, why would you want to privatise it anyway?


Two main reasons for wants to privatise the NHS, 1. I believe the overall level of health care is bad and i think the private sector could do a better job and its not really a Public Good/service. 2. it costs a ridiculous amount of money for the government and therefore people and businesses through taxes each year.

What do you base your views on the quality of healthcare on? I know someone who works for Bupa (and has worked in the NHS) and she informs me that while you might get a comfier bed with Bupa if you actually have something wrong with you then you should go to the NHS.

Privatising the NHS would save the government a lot of money. But whose footing the bill for health insurance? Businesses. Some of the biggest proponents of nationalising healthcare in the US are businesses, since the cost for healthcare is so high.

I would never vote for you.


Dont compare Bupa with the NHS though, compare the NHS with another countries private healthcare system. You will pay for the health insurance unless you earn less than £35,000 a year and then the government will provide it. I would say the US is a bad example as they dont subsidies people who cant afford insurance, may I clarrify that it wont be pure private health care left on its own, it will be regulated.
OhDeezy
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 01:09:47
December 09 2011 01:08 GMT
#19
On December 09 2011 10:03 Zaros wrote:
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On December 09 2011 10:00 OhDeezy wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:49 Zaros wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:42 The KY wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:25 Aeres wrote:
Given that I'm an ignorant American, could you enlighten me on how important religion is to the UK? In the US, religion is incredibly important in many aspects of our lives. Is it the same way with you folks across the pond? I ask, because one of your campaign promises is to reevaluate religous funding. If a potential candidate said that in the US, his chances of winning would literally drop to zero.


I know he already answered but I would say that politically religion is of little concern. I understand that in the US, a non Christian candidate is basically a no go? Not so here, even slightly. In my experience, in fact, it's relatively rare to meet anyone who is a christian.

EDIT: No doubt he is much more in danger of losing votes with the whole 'privatise the NHS' thing. I can imagine that going down badly.

I mean, the current government is trying to do as much as they can to put NHS funding in private hands but they do it on the sly (saying that they are handing power to GPs, who are actually going to outsource it, at least that's my understanding) while outwardly their policy is that the NHS is a national institution that must not be torn down.

If I could ask the OP, why would you want to privatise it anyway?


Two main reasons for wants to privatise the NHS, 1. I believe the overall level of health care is bad and i think the private sector could do a better job and its not really a Public Good/service. 2. it costs a ridiculous amount of money for the government and therefore people and businesses through taxes each year.

What do you base your views on the quality of healthcare on? I know someone who works for Bupa (and has worked in the NHS) and she informs me that while you might get a comfier bed with Bupa if you actually have something wrong with you then you should go to the NHS.

Privatising the NHS would save the government a lot of money. But whose footing the bill for health insurance? Businesses. Some of the biggest proponents of nationalising healthcare in the US are businesses, since the cost for healthcare is so high.

I would never vote for you.


Dont compare Bupa with the NHS though, compare the NHS with another countries private healthcare system. You will pay for the health insurance unless you earn less than £35,000 a year and then the government will provide it. I would say the US is a bad example as they dont subsidies people who cant afford insurance, may I clarrify that it wont be pure private health care left on its own, it will be regulated.

So the government is still paying for the vast majority of peoples healthcare (except at a higher price because people are making money out of it). Taxes are lower as a result so people and businesses have more money that they'll just have to spend on health insurance anyway?
JonnyClark
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Last Edited: 2011-12-09 01:11:16
December 09 2011 01:09 GMT
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On December 09 2011 10:00 Iyerbeth wrote:
I'm not sure no would be a strong enough term to express my opinion on those changes, but I clicked it for lack of a stronger worded opposition. Here are some notes on why:

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On December 09 2011 09:16 Zaros wrote:

Expenditure

Privatise National Health Service (NHS) - Provide a subsidy for anyone earning less than the new 2nd highest rate of income tax.

The NHS whilst already suffering major budget cuts in a bid to force quality down and sell it off piece by piece to the private sector is already having privatisation bids have a terrible impact on healthcare. PFI initiatives are already the biggest single cause of NHS related debt, and a for-profit system will only further reduce care whilst driving up costs. We can already see the result of private healthcare and insurance in the US and whilst it may only be a matter of years before we end up there here, rushing towards it would eradicate all hope of keeping a free at the point of use, universal healthcare system.

We should instead immediately remove the private sector from the NHS, cut debts to PFI scheme's and invest in jobs and training throughout hospitals in the UK.

Reduce all Benefits levels by 15% (see VAT tax reduction)

Provided that benefits were increased and reduced in line with VAT to result in the same spending power this may be acceptable, but current benefit levels are already too low with most cash issues arising from the poorly written legislation and failed economic policies of creating jobs, not from those on benefits being over paid. At a time with the highest youth unemplyment rate in the history of our country we should be very careful about penalising those with no options.

Cut university funding to all "bad" universities (Any universities that firms regard degrees as effectively pointless and a college course would be just as good(potentially leave only 120 universities across the UK))

All university education should be free. End fee's and ensure there are enough quality positions for everyone.

Evaluate all government advice/charitable agencies/organisations with regards to reducing funding up to and including a 100% reduction.

Such a vague statement it's impossible to oppose, but it would depend on the results of the evaluation.

Look into part privatisation of education.

NO. For-profit education is a truely terrible idea. Education should be independant, of a strict quality and free for all.

Increase science research and development spending by at least 100%.

I'm not expert enough to know the results of this for jobs and opportunites in the UK, and I wonder if you are?

Evaluate all religious,cultural and recreational funding.

Again, evaluation is fine if it is with a goal to improving services and value for money without cutting services or jobs.

Evaluate all employment,enterprise and environment spending.

Another vague "evaluate" that could not be judged until after propsals were made.

Cut all European Union Funding.

I'm not a fan of the EU, but this is actually insane. Cutting innapropriate funding is one thing but to decide to basically cut all ties with the EU is to leave the UK with little to no trading options and a potentially politically hostile environment in which to try to secure stronger growth.

Increase Defence budget by approximately 50%

There is no reason for such an increase, we don't need to be spending more money on imperialist conquest. Better care for returning soldiers and their families, but I'm not convined by your seemingly random number, nor am I intimately familiar with the UK defense budget allocations as it stands, or that simply throwing 50% more money at them will help.

Tax

Reduce Value added Tax (VAT) to 5% from 20%

Scrap all fuel duty

Various Income Tax Changes - No one pays tax below £20,000 a year.
£20,000-£35,000 10%
£35,000-£75,000 20%
£75,000+ 30%

Scrap National Insurance

Increase Taxes on alcohol, tobacco and betting.

New Tax on legalised drugs at 60% (see Laws and regulation)

Reduce corporation tax - Main rate to 15%
- Small profits rate to 5%
- Special rate to 10%.

Half all capital gains taxes.

Reduce inheritance tax to 35%.

Double all Stamp duty rates but provide 0% Stamp duty for first time buyers.

5% Tax break for all new nuclear power stations.


These tax plans are so regressive as to be almost confused with an attempt to wipe out the poor by way of starvation and lack of services. 5% VAT, no National Insurance (on top of your earlier plan for priavte education and healthcare????) with tax on things most likely used by poorer members of society whilst providing massive tax breaks to the rich? The same rich who already owe more in tax than every form of benefit fraud put together several times over? The only thing that would be universally helpful is the fuel duty plan which in itself would be extremly short sighted.

Laws and regulation

Legalise many currently illegal drugs on the advice of doctors such as cannabis with strict regulation and a new 60% tax on all of the newly legalised drugs.

Price control of all products directly affected by fuel duty for one year to enforce a reduction in price.

This would be redundant as if the prices were to rise steeply they would do so at the end of that year anyway, but most likely competition would in this instance force prices lower either way. The only way to ensure constant fair prices is to nationalise the industry.

Legalise Personal piracy for a product that has been released for one year or more.

Set up the Nuclear Power Regulatory Comity (NPRC) to inspect all nuclear power stations every year for safety and to decide on any future regulation.

This would be redundant based on current inspection and safety guidelines.

Merge all U.K. Competition authorities into one organisation and relax monopoly regulation.

Preventing monopolys is a good thing, even in capitalist societys.

Ban smoking and Drug use in all non-private areas (including cars.)

New government Rule - Magic Formula - The British Government may only run a budget deficit in recessions or extreme economic circumstances.

Given the way that most government spending works that would be interesting to see attempted. Not that I'm against the idea in principal though.

Semi-Legalise Polygamy - Must marry all at the same time/place as to not deceive.

Hardly the most pressing issue but if people are desperate for it (is anyone?) then I imagine it oculd be looked in to, remembering to consider all the taxation, housing and family issues that would arise.

Other

Leave the European Union but promote free trade and immigration with all "friendly" countries. (Free trade should be the neutral/default position)

As someone who doesn't support the EU (which is run almost entirely against the best interests of the people of Europe) simply leaving is completely the wrong call.

Seek invasion of Iran through the UN Security Council with NATO to remove the nuclear threat.

There is currently no reason to invade Iran.

Attempt to extend "Parliament Life" to eight years with a referendum after five years.

All politicians should be subject to recall if they're no longer representing their voters sufficiently. 4-5 years is already too long, 8 years should be out of the question. So no.

More actively Persue Tax evaders

With your plan to reduce taxes on them by so much and at the same time serve massive sections of public jobs up for free profit, you just might not have to chase them anymore.

So those are my current policies so would you elect me?

I would actively fight against your election on those policies.


this is so good bro


zaros, i disagree with almost all of it, but the one thing that got me was the privatization of education. can i get your thoughts on that? i just can't understand your motives.

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