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I am not the best blog writer. At all. But I thought I would give this a go.
I. TL;DR
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SC2 has more ESPORT coverage than most games, but there is something I have noticed while viewing streams and stream chats. I believe this is something that needs to be addressed, no playing around. The booing of other video games, and the "I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS" spam in chats over HoN finals, or Halo Championships is ... it's bm, it's rediculous, and embarassing. We need to stop this hate, it is giving our community a bad name. We all need to give respect to other gamers/games, etc.
The SC2 community has been regarded as pretty bad from people I have talked to in other gaming communities. I have come to the conclusion there are two types of people.
1. People who like SC2 and hate other games because they are not SC2.
2. People who like SC2 and don't care about other games and/or enjoy them just as much.
The point is, you can play Starcraft and enjoy other games without hate being involved.
II. R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me.
I personally like watching any kind of game, although some games are not the most entertaining, would you want someone coming into your chat or tournament during SC2 and bashing the game? Although it is cheesy, the golden rule fits in here. Treat others the way you want to be treated, right? I know some people who say they want ESPORTS to grow, but how are you helping if you sit and bash other games that are trying to get as big as SC2. We all need to come to the conclusion that to get ESPORTS to work, we need other games to make it. It won't just be SC2, because Starcraft won't catch everyone's eye. Some people will prefer , lets say, Call of Duty over it, and we shouldn't disrespect them for what they love. I think insulting someone on the game they play is immature and disgusting. We are all gamers are we not? I mean I get just as much BM on Starcraft as I did when I played Call of Duty or Halo. People have got the picture that we are better because we play SC2, which is wrong. We should all be equal, we are all gamers and we love what we do. Though it seems we just can't get that into our heads. I don't know, but I just felt like it was time, people started getting under control, start showing respect for games and gamers across the globe.
III. Challenge
Here is a challenge, the next MLG or Dreamhack or whatever, tune in for Quake Finals or Halo when the SC2 streams are taking a break. Respect people on ladder, even if they do BM you.
Thanks, Cabeld. <3 
P.S. Again, sorry if it wasn't written the best, I am not the best blog writer. D=
  
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SC2 community has been regarded as pretty bad
I'm not in the SC2 community, but I agree. Seems like (not all)people complain, whine, troll and hate too much.
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No one take this as a bash on the community, I am in love with SC2, and would love to make this my life. But I think for ESPORTS to thrive, we need to respect all games.
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its the internet, all communities hate on each other, but SC2 is just the biggest so it has a bigger proportion of idiots. Personally I've been drawn less and less overtime to associating myself with Starcraft 2, and one of the bigger reasons is the fanboy "holier than thou high society e-sports only exists in 1v1 SC2" types that are the very apparent minority in this community.
watching streams is still fun and always will be, but I've more or less stopped playing the game ;(
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the best communities?? hard to say, as one would need to venture in pretty much all of them. the best ones are usualyl teh tight-knit ones, which are cfocused on ahving a good time together, everywhere where there is competition people's egos get flattered. i also tihnk that it takes some years for agreat community to form, with old veterans and such
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thedeadhaji
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On December 08 2011 15:41 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:
the best communities?? hard to say, as one would need to venture in pretty much all of them. the best ones are usualyl teh tight-knit ones, which are cfocused on ahving a good time together, everywhere where there is competition people's egos get flattered. i also tihnk that it takes some years for agreat community to form, with old veterans and such
ya the best gaming community probably involves some super oldschool game where only the hardcore devotees remain.
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Heh, you should check out the hon community, you won't find a bigger collective group of angry people than them.
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On December 08 2011 16:00 TBone- wrote:
Heh, you should check out the hon community, you won't find a bigger collective group of angry people than them.
Proving the point....
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Going right along with HoN, I've noticed that the entire DoTA-like genre has really harsh communities. Been playing a lot of DotA 2 recently, and while I love the game, the community sometimes makes me a tad dissapointed that such a wonderful game is represented by such BM players.
Going a little more on point, I;ve noticed that relatively obscure yet ultra faced paced FPS games have really awesome communities. I'm talking games like Cube 2: Sauerbraten, Nexuiz, Warsow, Xonotic (and of course the less obscure Quake 3: CPMA)
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Korea (South)11595 Posts
On December 08 2011 15:46 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 15:41 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:
the best communities?? hard to say, as one would need to venture in pretty much all of them. the best ones are usualyl teh tight-knit ones, which are cfocused on ahving a good time together, everywhere where there is competition people's egos get flattered. i also tihnk that it takes some years for agreat community to form, with old veterans and such ya the best gaming community probably involves some super oldschool game where only the hardcore devotees remain.
So like how TL was?
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On December 08 2011 15:42 Phyrigian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 15:36 Black[CAT] wrote:SC2 community has been regarded as pretty bad I'm not in the SC2 community, but I agree. Seems like (not all)people complain, whine, troll and hate too much. from what i know, lots of people repeat eachother aswell, but tlers are generally friendly, however i'd call that the TL community, not the starcraft 2 community. however, we can talk about the hon community if you want ;P op, i agree 100% with what you said, but i am also genuinely surprised more people that are so "in love with starcraft 2/esports" dont branch out into watching more, or atleast even BW, but i do agree with what you said, and there is a genuine disrespect. look at the dreamhack chat when the quake live finals were played. it made me angry, the finals were terrible, honestly, 3-0 and all, but the chat was so disrespectful, and it hurt me knowing thats one of my fav games and "esports" doesnt like it, when it was one of the first real ones.
Agree, the TL forum community is AMAZING. :D
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I haven't played THAT much SC2, still I only seemed to meet raging kids who won't say gg or give you any credit when you win. The BW community was/is far worse though, so being a old game doesn't really mean anything. It's just that SC is so competitive and because of that there will always be bad manner and emotional people all over.
The greatest community I know is the Killing Floor one, which isn't that surprising considering you're playing together vs AI and not vs humans. That removes pretty much all negative energy coming from the competitive side of games like SC/TF2/CoD. In KF everyone is nice to new players and helps each other out, it's a nice feeling knowing you can jump into a public game and not get flamed down to death for no good reason.
Other than that, the Unreal Tournament (original) community is pretty awesome as well, and as the competitive side got smaller and smaller, people became nicer and stopped caring about winning = everything. It used to be pretty bad though, but nowhere as childish as BW or the like.
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pokemon! the only problem really was implementing policy change in terms of bans, etc because there was such a long process. It took until platinum came out (late 2008 i think) for the game to settle down (when release was 2007 and the japanese version was late 06) in gen 4. Balance was hard to implement because of so many opinions that they had to settle on a merit based voting (in a way). Suspect testers for bans would ladder on a ladder specifically to test the effects of a ban on balance and (i believe) the highest ranked players at the end of the period + respected community members would vote on the ban.
i dont think there was much BM except for ethics in trading, but once you got into just battling on a sim everything was k :D.
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aside from that, I support not shitting on games. Its disappointing when people AT mlg talk shit about halo while watching sc2 when they clearly know nothing about it. regardless of if you think the competition is redundant, they have still worked hard as fuck to be the best at that game.
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Please spread word about this blog, or about the matter. Hell, I just want to get the message to people, this is an important subject for tournaments, fans, etc.
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