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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 03:33:19
December 07 2011 03:32 GMT
#1
You're a comedian. You host five 45-minute comedy shows each weekday. The audience varies in size from approximately 20-30 people. Each of your shows needs to have a different routine, and you can't repeat a routine within a one-year period.

During the show, every member of the audience must be engrossed in your performance. If even one person isn't paying attention, or isn't enjoying your show, you are failing them as their comedian. You must perform your show in order to meet the varying needs and sense of humor of each member of the audience. If anyone in your audience is deaf you should set up closed captions for them. If anyone is blind, you may need to describe the motions you make with your hands or props you use during the performance.

You sometimes do 90 minute performances instead of 45. Your total minutes performed for the day still adds up to 225, but now you have to keep the audience's attention for twice as long. Once again, every member of the audience must be fully engrossed for the entirety of the 90 minutes. The irony is that many of the people in the audience don't want to be there and don't like comedy. Some of them even have a tendency to have conversations while you perform or smash the furniture into the floor, distracting everyone. Be careful about having them get kicked out though... it's an obvious tell that you aren't an effective comedian.

The comedy club owners sit in on your performances about 8 times per year. For these 8 sessions you must change up your routine significantly in order to passify them. This usually is detrimental to the quality of your performance from the perspective of your audience (you are much better at running a comedy show than the owners are), but it's not within your power to do much about it. They expect you to have evidence that each person in the audience understood each joke. At the end of the show they write up an evaluation where they note one or two things they noticed that they thought were good and about ten that were bad and need to be fixed.

The microphone is often broken too.

For some, this may be too big a challenge. You, however, must be successful. After all, you're a comedian.

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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 03:41:03
December 07 2011 03:38 GMT
#2
I am confused but intrigued.


edit: after reading the comment below, I understand. I come from a family of teachers. You have my respect.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 07 2011 03:39 GMT
#3
Much respect to teachers everywhere. Shit pay, bad hours, a lot of work- all for one of the most important jobs on Earth.

Cheers.
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 07 2011 03:40 GMT
#4
that is one of the longest riddles i've ever seen. Extremely well written, funny and concise..... this is definately one of the best posts i've ever seen on TL ;p
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 07 2011 03:42 GMT
#5
... but it's not a riddle.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 07 2011 03:44 GMT
#6
On December 07 2011 12:39 Probe1 wrote:
Much respect to teachers everywhere. Shit pay, bad hours, a lot of work- all for one of the most important jobs on Earth.

Cheers.

I feel like an idiot 'cause I couldn't figure it out right away, even though I've heard the exact same kind of ranting from my mother for YEARS, being a teacher.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 04:12:31
December 07 2011 03:44 GMT
#7
I should really stop skim reading apparently.

Teaching is rough.

Teaching Phys Ed is even harder.
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
December 07 2011 03:57 GMT
#8
Damn. I live in Ohio too-- I helped pass Issue 2 (which repealed Senate bill 5-- which took away collective bargaining from teachers). So many props for teachers. So many.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 04:04:42
December 07 2011 04:01 GMT
#9
How were we supposed to know that by comedian you mean teacher? I am honestly curious how you reached that conclusion, Probe1.

EDIT: Hey wait a second. Why haven't you made a 10,000th post, Probe1?
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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 04:03:53
December 07 2011 04:03 GMT
#10
ROFL at people missing the point.

Teachers are bad ass. It is rather amusing that the only real perk they get is extended time away from teaching. Certainly tells you something about the profession

On a separate note, I think my sig is somewhat appropriate for this blog.

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Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
December 07 2011 04:11 GMT
#11
Pretty cool metaphor
(Bonus points for anyone clicking this because of watchmen)
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 04:12:35
December 07 2011 04:12 GMT
#12
Maybe it's different in the US but I've yet to see a teacher who held themselves or others to those standards.

OTOH, impossible standards are a great excuse to treat good and poor teachers the same way. After all both of them failed and we knew we were asking something impossible in the first place.
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 04:15:15
December 07 2011 04:14 GMT
#13
Yeah, anyone who becomes a teacher must really love it or be blissfully ignorant of the life they are entering.

Either way, I guess I have to respect them. That's mad dedication.
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
December 07 2011 04:16 GMT
#14
And you can get never get fired because you're part of the teac... comedian's union
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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
December 07 2011 04:18 GMT
#15
On December 07 2011 13:12 hypercube wrote:
Maybe it's different in the US but I've yet to see a teacher who held themselves or others to those standards.

OTOH, impossible standards are a great excuse to treat good and poor teachers the same way. After all both of them failed and we knew we were asking something impossible in the first place.


Isn't that why teachers get into teaching To educate kids. Unfortunately to do that in the current environment you have to put up with what Micro has listed and get shit all pay or respect for it. Failure is a relative thing, a teacher who repeats themselves is less of a failure than one who doesn't bother to pitch.

To me the point of this is not that the standards are impossible but that the support for teachers is non-existent. Swing for the fences and all that. Nothing wrong with high expectations but when there is no respect or support for achieving those standards, why bother?
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 07 2011 04:21 GMT
#16
On December 07 2011 13:16 Gatsbi wrote:
And you can get never get fired because you're part of the teac... comedian's union


I'm not sure if you're honestly implying that teachers shouldn't have unions with the shit they have to go through.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
December 07 2011 04:22 GMT
#17
On December 07 2011 13:21 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 13:16 Gatsbi wrote:
And you can get never get fired because you're part of the teac... comedian's union


I'm not sure if you're honestly implying that teachers shouldn't have unions with the shit they have to go through.


With a name like Gatsbi you can bet on it...
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 07 2011 04:23 GMT
#18
Q_Q more jeez!

Just jokes yo! Great write up - pretty smart of your Mr Micronesia!

What are the parts of your job that your enjoy? Why do you keep doing it?
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 07 2011 04:25 GMT
#19
Please don't act like it's hard to be a teacher. Plus, you get summers off.
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Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 04:27:14
December 07 2011 04:26 GMT
#20
On December 07 2011 13:21 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 13:16 Gatsbi wrote:
And you can get never get fired because you're part of the teac... comedian's union


I'm not sure if you're honestly implying that teachers shouldn't have unions with the shit they have to go through.


I appreciate good teachers, I really do. I even had a few in high school, but there's shitty teachers who have held their jobs for YEARS for no reason other than that it's next to impossible to fire a teacher with their unions. In my opinion, it's a large part (but not the only reason) of why the USA's education system is shit.
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 07 2011 04:33 GMT
#21
kushm4sta,

Good teachers are incredibly hard to find.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 07 2011 04:34 GMT
#22
On December 07 2011 13:23 bkrow wrote:
Q_Q more jeez!

Just jokes yo! Great write up - pretty smart of your Mr Micronesia!

What are the parts of your job that your enjoy? Why do you keep doing it?


Curious as well
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Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
December 07 2011 04:34 GMT
#23
On December 07 2011 13:01 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
How were we supposed to know that by comedian you mean teacher? I am honestly curious how you reached that conclusion, Probe1.

EDIT: Hey wait a second. Why haven't you made a 10,000th post, Probe1?


Looks like someone's comedian failed them. Didn't you ever hear that language arts joke about metaphors?
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Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
December 07 2011 04:38 GMT
#24
A nice little conceit you have going there. I really enjoyed the build up, but was really expecting it to turn into an Edger Allen Poe ending.

I don't think I could be a teacher, maybe a college professor, but not a teacher. I love a challenge, but I don't think I could teach someone something they aren't willing to learn.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 07 2011 04:45 GMT
#25
On December 07 2011 13:25 kushm4sta wrote:
Please don't act like it's hard to be a teacher. Plus, you get summers off.

In keeping with internet tradition: Let us hate on each other for no apparent raisin.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
December 07 2011 04:51 GMT
#26
On December 07 2011 13:25 kushm4sta wrote:
Please don't act like it's hard to be a teacher. Plus, you get summers off.


if he was in Canada I would be inclined to agree but he isn't.
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 07 2011 05:23 GMT
#27
I can understand why micronesia used the "ruse" of the "Comedian" to get us here.

Have you seen anyone been interested in going to a Teaching Club for fun?
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 07 2011 07:20 GMT
#28
On December 07 2011 13:01 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
How were we supposed to know that by comedian you mean teacher? I am honestly curious how you reached that conclusion, Probe1.

EDIT: Hey wait a second. Why haven't you made a 10,000th post, Probe1?

Count my next GSL related article contribution bonanaza as my 10k post if you want
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 11:09:49
December 07 2011 11:08 GMT
#29
On December 07 2011 13:16 Gatsbi wrote:
And you can get never get fired because you're part of the teac... comedian's union

Even if this were true, it wouldn't really be a counter to the OP.


On December 07 2011 13:23 bkrow wrote:
What are the parts of your job that your enjoy? Why do you keep doing it?

I find working with students can often be enjoyable, and when students learn it is often very rewarding. Also, once you become a teacher it's difficult to career change XD If it isn't working out for you your only decent way out that doesn't involve starting over educationally is to become an administrator.


On December 07 2011 13:25 kushm4sta wrote:
Please don't act like it's hard to be a teacher. Plus, you get summers off.

I always wonder how random people I don't know come to conclusions likes "it's not hard to be a teacher."
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 07 2011 11:16 GMT
#30
I actually find nothing else in life as rewarding as knowing you've had an impact on another persons life. Sex, meh that's nice. Violence? Sure feels good to hurt someone lol.

But knowing that you were even part of what changed another persons life, no matter how little, is one of the greatest feelings you can have when you're laying in bed at night trying to get to sleep. Like I said, it's a shit job but what you're doing is more important than 90% of what's on TV.
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Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
December 08 2011 07:12 GMT
#31
Brilliantly written, i was getting suspicious when you said you would only have 30 audience members.
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 08:14:03
December 08 2011 08:12 GMT
#32
A good teacher is really hard to find. Anyone can stand up in front of a group of kids and read off a textbook or syllabus, but only a few can really inspire those to go out and learn on their own. It's tough, but I'm glad someone like you is doing it!

Good teachers have an amazing amount of selflessness imo.
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KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
December 08 2011 08:45 GMT
#33
Tons and tons of respect to teaching as an occupation, must be very difficult.
Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
December 08 2011 11:54 GMT
#34
You forgot to add someone else writes 90% of your comedy routine and that routine is based on a distilled blend of the finest comedy created throughout the ages. That takes some of the edge off your analogy.

Being a good teacher is hard, no argument there. So is being good at a million other jobs, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Teachers have a tremendous responsibility to shape the next generation. We should value them because what they do is important, whether or not it's hard.

If it were easy to be a good teacher, would that make the profession any less valuable?
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 08 2011 12:35 GMT
#35
On December 08 2011 20:54 Doctorasul wrote:
You forgot to add someone else writes 90% of your comedy routine and that routine is based on a distilled blend of the finest comedy created throughout the ages. That takes some of the edge off your analogy.

Being a good teacher is hard, no argument there. So is being good at a million other jobs, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Teachers have a tremendous responsibility to shape the next generation. We should value them because what they do is important, whether or not it's hard.

If it were easy to be a good teacher, would that make the profession any less valuable?


You forget that in a lot of other careers being good means you go up the ladder and get pay raises. Teachers have a low pay ceiling (at least in the United States) and very little incentive to actually become good. There are plenty of teachers who are fine with being mediocre. Then they get their tenure and really don't give a shit, and it shows. That is what makes good teachers extremely undervalued individuals.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
December 08 2011 16:53 GMT
#36
On December 08 2011 20:54 Doctorasul wrote:
You forgot to add someone else writes 90% of your comedy routine and that routine is based on a distilled blend of the finest comedy created throughout the ages. That takes some of the edge off your analogy.
I don't think it's that I forgot so much as I don't agree with the statement.

Being a good teacher is hard, no argument there. So is being good at a million other jobs, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Yeah, I feel like you didn't really get it. It's fairly subtle though I have to admit.
Teachers have a tremendous responsibility to shape the next generation. We should value them because what they do is important, whether or not it's hard.

If it were easy to be a good teacher, would that make the profession any less valuable?

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 17:01:06
December 08 2011 17:00 GMT
#37
On December 07 2011 13:45 Probe1 wrote:
Let us hate on each other for no apparent raisin.

What a fruity statement. Can I love you for no apparent grape?

:-P

That said this is a very nicely written blog, I enjoyed it ^_^
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 17:06:42
December 08 2011 17:04 GMT
#38
Out of curiosity, what courses do you teach? I know you teach Physics, but any others?

Also out of curiosity, do you ever get bored of the material you're teaching? I've often thought that if I were to teach High School I wouldn't find the material engaging, and for lack of a better term too "low level". It sounds bad, but I wouldn't want to teach something that was so simple.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
December 08 2011 17:18 GMT
#39
Back in the days, (in DK) Students had to learn, teachers had to teach.
Now, teachers have to teach students that feel like they don't need to learn..
I miss when it was more whip than carrot.

Also, great blog, I really get your point.
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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
December 08 2011 20:23 GMT
#40
On December 09 2011 01:53 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 20:54 Doctorasul wrote:
You forgot to add someone else writes 90% of your comedy routine and that routine is based on a distilled blend of the finest comedy created throughout the ages. That takes some of the edge off your analogy.
I don't think it's that I forgot so much as I don't agree with the statement.

Fair enough, since you're actually in the field and I'm not. Making the material convincing could be the hard part so I'l back off from that point.

Show nested quote +
Being a good teacher is hard, no argument there. So is being good at a million other jobs, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Yeah, I feel like you didn't really get it. It's fairly subtle though I have to admit.

Sarcasm doesn't go across easily on the internet but I'd like to know what I'm missing. I thought the point was that it's a difficult, creative job and that's fine, but is that what makes teaching special or is it its' importance for the future?

Teachers have a tremendous responsibility to shape the next generation. We should value them because what they do is important, whether or not it's hard.

If it were easy to be a good teacher, would that make the profession any less valuable?

Any reaction to the last question?

Anyhow, thanks for the entry and sorry if I was too harsh/rude. Your patience is appreciated!
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
December 08 2011 20:45 GMT
#41
On December 09 2011 02:04 emperorchampion wrote:
Out of curiosity, what courses do you teach? I know you teach Physics, but any others?

I'm certified to teach physics. I've taught regular physics, AP Physics B/C (C only as a student teacher though), general physics, 7th grade science research, oceanography, marine biology, nutrition. I'm assuming you are only talking about k-12 education; I taught a bit in college as an undergrad <3

Also out of curiosity, do you ever get bored of the material you're teaching? I've often thought that if I were to teach High School I wouldn't find the material engaging, and for lack of a better term too "low level". It sounds bad, but I wouldn't want to teach something that was so simple.
I enjoy teaching AP level more than Regents, in part because of this. However, I have yet to have a serious problem with losing motivation due to the material being repeated. Even if I was having that type of a problem, it would be at the bottom of a list of 500 more major problems.

On December 09 2011 05:23 Doctorasul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 01:53 micronesia wrote:
On December 08 2011 20:54 Doctorasul wrote:
You forgot to add someone else writes 90% of your comedy routine and that routine is based on a distilled blend of the finest comedy created throughout the ages. That takes some of the edge off your analogy.
I don't think it's that I forgot so much as I don't agree with the statement.

Fair enough, since you're actually in the field and I'm not. Making the material convincing could be the hard part so I'l back off from that point.

I could go into a whole rant about the topic but it's not the point of the blog so I'll avoid doing so XD

Show nested quote +
Being a good teacher is hard, no argument there. So is being good at a million other jobs, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Yeah, I feel like you didn't really get it. It's fairly subtle though I have to admit.

Sarcasm doesn't go across easily on the internet but I'd like to know what I'm missing. I thought the point was that it's a difficult, creative job and that's fine, but is that what makes teaching special or is it its' importance for the future?

I wasn't being sarcastic or anything... the OP actually is rather subtle. I try not to explain my subtleties on TL because a lot of people give me crap for it, but to sum it up really quickly, when you take some of the things that you are faced with in teaching and apply them to other types of careers/jobs, they sound absolutely ridiculous... but because it's teaching it's considered the norm.

Show nested quote +
Teachers have a tremendous responsibility to shape the next generation. We should value them because what they do is important, whether or not it's hard.

If it were easy to be a good teacher, would that make the profession any less valuable?

Any reaction to the last question?

As I said, the point of this discussion in particular isn't really about how hard it is to be a teacher, but to humor your question a bit, the value of a teacher is best represented by what they accomplish, so we are probably in agreement more or less on this point.
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
December 09 2011 00:20 GMT
#42
How many MS3 owner does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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