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HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 03:48:55
December 07 2011 01:25 GMT
#1
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I know other zergs suffer from the drone whoring syndrome, but I think I take it a few steps above that.


I LOVED getting the macro advantage in BW, and SC2 only fuels that passion even further; it's almost my standard build going 3 hatch before pool ZvT in BW or squeezing out that 15/16th drone before pool when I open 15 hatch in SC2 even when I scout 2 rax agression on the way, simply because the map was tal darim and I love it when my zerglings pop just in time to fend off the bunker rush attempt. Surely putting the pool down at 14 would help me fend off the rush much more easily and save me from losses when I slip up my micro, but think of the 3 second larva spawn time you lose due to maxed larva idle time when you pool on 14 and that's not even counting the minerals mined from the earlier drone!


My early game APM is absurd because I click/spam a LOT, due to the fact that I enjoy getting that ~50 mineral advantage from optimally mining close patches more than I enjoy hitting 20 marines with 1 fungal; it physically hurts me a little whenever I misclick and a drone travels to a faraway mineral patch.


A typical build order ZvP for me looks something like this:

Scout 13/14 depending on map
15 hatch
15 pool
drone to very brief supply block at 18, then overlord
2 x queen upon pool completion
1 pair of zerglings upon pool completion
Drone till 25, then 1 more overlord, then drone till 28 (another brief supply block)
2x injects as queens finish
1 overlord, 1 additional queen and pure drones with additional overlords as needed from constant injects until 2 base mineral saturation, then 4 x gas, 9 x drone for a perfect 2 base saturation plus an expanding drone.

This is probably the ideal zerg macro build order, in that given no aggression it's the fastest route to 2 base maximum income.


Now, I substitute some zerglings for drones, and the path to full saturation is slowed as necessary when I do scout aggression coming, but even then I attempt to count units, take into account the reinforcement capabilities of the push as well as the map, then put down as little defense as possible even though by that point, I could afford to throw down 6 additional spines and still be ahead in macro. I dunno... I think it's the nature of the zerg that makes me into who I am, I hate the fact that every time I try to play SC2 my way, my opponent tries to kill me and I am forced to transform mineral harvesters into defense, and precious larva into units that don't produce me minerals. Whereas protoss can just warp in shit without even losing much mining time on the probe, I have to murder a worker every time I want to make something. I know the costs even everything out in the end but still, I don't even like the sight of losing drones. I can't wait for HoTs, I'm going to be that guy making 40 corrupter every game even though my opponent has no air units and I have no hive tech.


Surprisingly, most of my games are actually fairly short and end around the mid game mark. I have had MANY games, where I time it perfectly saving up X number of larvas for a nice muta or roach timing, only to rage quit seconds later from subconsciously pressing "S" "DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD...oh fuck gg". I guess my bare minimum defenses always entices people to make an attack, so by the mid game usually I would either be dead due to misjudgment or my opponent would quit, having 1/2 of my worker count or bases. Moreover, most of my longer games are actually not stalemates or GGs, they're usually me sitting there on 8 bases with 120 drones wondering whey I can't even break a 2-base economy opponent at 200 supply, or me taking a 5th and 6th even though I could just pump units and kill my 2 base economy opponent pumping off my current 4 bases.


If there was a fetish for things someone does in a video game, making drones and maximizing income would be it for me. There are countless games where I was already ahead in bases/workers, but made more drones and took more expansions because I just can't help myself. I have to basically consciously tell myself to make units and look at the keyboard, because otherwise my fingers are going for the drones whenever my concentration lapses a bit.


I think playing RTS games for me is more of a city building experience, and the post-game economy tab is my high score screen. I don't really even care about wins at all, it's all about the macro routine; for me, the best that SC2 games has to offer isn't satisfying comeback victories, but rather just me, at the mid game, spamming 5 s v click 6 s v click 7 s v click 8 s v click 4sdddddddddddddddddddddvvv, hopefully substituting as few Ds with Zs and Rs as possible.


I guess I have a good improvement regime going, trying to have the best economy possible surviving with as few units as possible, and if I keep practicing for another decade or so, I'll become Idra.

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<3 drones

Edit:

Pics not drawn by me, shamelessly taken off here:


http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15974215/

All pics from the link:

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High templar

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Reaper

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Marauder

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Marine

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Stalker

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Baneling

Enjoy:D

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ saving this here because I use it, don't know how to make it, and don't know it's name
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
December 07 2011 01:31 GMT
#2
For someone named HardMacro this is highly appropriate, and those pics are ridiculously cute. Not fair, who wouldn't love drones after those.

Nice blog
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
December 07 2011 01:31 GMT
#3
cute pics! :D
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
December 07 2011 01:35 GMT
#4
5/5 for uber kawaii pics
POGGERS
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 07 2011 01:36 GMT
#5
Ret probably likes drones more than you do. Just stayin'.

Nice pics though.
Logic is Overrated
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
December 07 2011 01:43 GMT
#6
Sheth is my hero... and first week (or maybe second) or NASL 1 he had a game where he had over 100 drones mining at one point. It has since been my goal to make at least 100 drones a game. >o> * o * <o< \o/ drones
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 07 2011 01:49 GMT
#7
I will never be able to kill another drone after this thread. Damn you.

Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
December 07 2011 02:05 GMT
#8
On December 07 2011 10:43 RedJustice wrote:
Sheth is my hero... and first week (or maybe second) or NASL 1 he had a game where he had over 100 drones mining at one point. It has since been my goal to make at least 100 drones a game. >o> * o * <o< \o/ drones


On shakuras , xelnaga or other maps with with narrow chokes, that's actually a pretty legit way to go about winning in a late game situation, at least diamonds/low masters can't seem to beat it.

If you drone hard to 100+ then maintain that mining for some time (you probably need at least a small initial advantage to do this and not die), you can just MASS spines with a few BLs/infestors for anti-colossi support in the center (I'm talking 30+ spines here) to protect your side, then making a ridiculous 30+ muta tech switch or doom dropping their main after you've traded your ground army. If they try to push, you rape most of their probes and structures while still protected by spines/BLs/infestors, and if they turtle or head back to defend you can just drone even more and make even more spines, while denying further bases with your safety and mobility.

<3 drones.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ saving this here because I use it, don't know how to make it, and don't know it's name
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 07 2011 02:06 GMT
#9
that zergling is the cutest thing ive ever seen
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
December 07 2011 02:19 GMT
#10
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Ruffian
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
December 07 2011 02:26 GMT
#11
Those drawings are super adorable fffff. Seriously really cute. Did you draw them?
There's a class for this (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 07 2011 02:36 GMT
#12
Are these your drawings or pulled from deviantart?
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 07 2011 02:54 GMT
#13
I thought I saw these posted here before in another blog?
tineye fails though
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
December 07 2011 02:59 GMT
#14
rofl hesmyrr you jack ass! xD
get rich or die mining
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 07 2011 03:00 GMT
#15
Aren't you the one that made the glhf.tv logo?
Thank God and gunrun.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 07 2011 03:02 GMT
#16
Have you met Retje?
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 03:13:45
December 07 2011 03:11 GMT
#17
Hardmacro, meet your new idol/mentor: Ret.
On a more, but not completely, serious note, I used to be kind of like that too. I call my style the Captain Clutch playstyle. I droned all the time until the enemy army shows up at my nat then I just flipped out and spammed roaches until he died. Interestingly enough, it usually worked but I did lose my natural. That doesn't tend to matter though because typically I already had a third, regardless of his opening. I had tons of fun with the heart palpitations and adrenaline binges that my ladder sessions brought.
Also cute drones are cute. Did you draw those?
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
December 07 2011 03:19 GMT
#18
On December 07 2011 11:19 Hesmyrr wrote:
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LOL. how could you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5/5 I'm not sure how I can kill drones any more Probably with extreme prejudice actually ...
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
December 07 2011 03:25 GMT
#19
you must be infested kerrigan fan as well.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Predguin
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada188 Posts
December 07 2011 03:27 GMT
#20
I love how those pictures are straight out of /tg/. Then again, given their fetish for monstergirls and other 'moe' anthropomorphisms, I can't say I'm surprised.
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