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ohokurwrong
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Brazil283 Posts
December 05 2011 17:03 GMT
#21
proof of concept top of blog
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 05 2011 18:45 GMT
#22
If you meta-game my meta-game, I feel like this results in a beta-meta-game overall. Chill?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 20:35:59
December 05 2011 20:32 GMT
#23
The OP pmed me so I responded:

Original Message From ohokurwrong:
maybe next time we troll we actually have insight into the game?

knowledge worth having is earned and the best ideas are not stolen as such you piggybacking sc2 game insight off other ppl and then taking a stance such as "this thread is useless" should void you posting rights but unfortunately everyone here has a voice...

watch the stream and feel dumb


You are absolutely ignorant. Zerg players have been doing drops since GSL season 1. Idra used them extensively in IPL season 1, july won a game in gsl finals using drops, dimaga and morrow use a lot of ling/bane drops. koreans baneling drop even vs terran. you provide no new insight to the game. I've been using drops as well for all 4 seasons, and I am top 100 masters on the NA server. I regularly beat GMs on ladder and have come close to beating progamers as well.

You provide no new insight, and i bet you aren't even skilled enough to experience first hand whether or not drops can be effective against an opponent.

I am not trolling. I am pointing out the truth that your thread is absolutely useless. You are the one wasting time and space by posting useless blogs on Teamliquid.

Edit:
tldr: YOU PROVIDE NO NEW INSIGHT, WHICH IS WHY THIS THREAD IS ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS
stop wasting all of our times just cause you think your ideas are worth sharing. A five minute search on TL and TL wiki would have shown you that drops cannot be the new metagame cause PPL ALREADY USE THEM
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FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
December 05 2011 21:19 GMT
#24
On December 06 2011 05:32 .Sic. wrote:
The OP pmed me so I responded:

Show nested quote +
Original Message From ohokurwrong:
maybe next time we troll we actually have insight into the game?

knowledge worth having is earned and the best ideas are not stolen as such you piggybacking sc2 game insight off other ppl and then taking a stance such as "this thread is useless" should void you posting rights but unfortunately everyone here has a voice...

watch the stream and feel dumb


You are absolutely ignorant. Zerg players have been doing drops since GSL season 1. Idra used them extensively in IPL season 1, july won a game in gsl finals using drops, dimaga and morrow use a lot of ling/bane drops. koreans baneling drop even vs terran. you provide no new insight to the game. I've been using drops as well for all 4 seasons, and I am top 100 masters on the NA server. I regularly beat GMs on ladder and have come close to beating progamers as well.

You provide no new insight, and i bet you aren't even skilled enough to experience first hand whether or not drops can be effective against an opponent.

I am not trolling. I am pointing out the truth that your thread is absolutely useless. You are the one wasting time and space by posting useless blogs on Teamliquid.

Edit:
tldr: YOU PROVIDE NO NEW INSIGHT, WHICH IS WHY THIS THREAD IS ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS
stop wasting all of our times just cause you think your ideas are worth sharing. A five minute search on TL and TL wiki would have shown you that drops cannot be the new metagame cause PPL ALREADY USE THEM



Chill out man, do you realise this is in the blog section? I agree this would be a bad thread and probably get closed straight away if it was in the strat forum for simply using the word metagame. The guy is just putting some of his thoughts forward. Having said that it looks like the OP was a bit of a douch in his PM so not really helping himself there ^^

Anyway, on topic. I have a lot of trouble in ZvP and I literally just finished one on shattered temple. FFE vs my 11 pool 18 hatch. This thread popped into my head from when i read it earler so i decided id try drops. Long story short it worked, my oppenent rage quit during my second drop

With some work this could become more popular, especially if idra keeps foing his ling hydra drops
GinjaNinja.661 EU I'd like to thank my sh*t keyyboard for always messing up my 'Y's
ohokurwrong
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Brazil283 Posts
December 05 2011 22:06 GMT
#25
because im right and i just wanted to blog about it but ppl are assholes and shit talk you

the guy above you just doesnt know what hes talking about

read my guide i provide all the reasoning for EVERYTHING CAPS CAPS CAPS
FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
December 06 2011 11:21 GMT
#26
On December 06 2011 07:06 ohokurwrong wrote:
because im right and i just wanted to blog about it but ppl are assholes and shit talk you

the guy above you just doesnt know what hes talking about

read my guide i provide all the reasoning for EVERYTHING CAPS CAPS CAPS


I didn't say anything about you using CAPS..... you two are just shouting at eachother over something irrelivent to the thread. I thought the point of this blog was to say what you think the metagame is going to do next, not about whether you should use CAPS in a post. Maybe make a new blog so you can talk about using CAPS and try talking about the metagame in this one?
GinjaNinja.661 EU I'd like to thank my sh*t keyyboard for always messing up my 'Y's
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
December 06 2011 12:56 GMT
#27
Is this the thread where we post metagame predictions? because if so, I'm going to post mine.

The shield upgrade will soon become standard for PvP and PvZ, especially for blink stalker builds. WTF you ask, hasn't it been proven that armor is better because there is more hp than shield? Yes, absolutely, if you plan on LOSING YOUR FARKING ARMY in every engagement. But if you have great control, then I think the shield upgrade absolutely makes more sense. Blink stalker builds in particular could be vastly improved by the shield upgrade. You know....how you blink back damaged stalkers when they start taking hp damage? Well, that wastes armor upgrades. But upgrading your shields will allow them to keep at the front for another shot or two..more dps for you. Colossi/immortals, same thing. How often do you see colossi/immortals with about half hp, because they are micro'ed well, and protected, and hence allowed to fight another day. Well, again, armor is pretty much wasted by that great micro. Shields, on the other hand are even more effective, because they are constantly getting chipped at and recharging, so they give these units more front line time.

Think about it, if you have great micro, then upgrading your freely renewable resource would make more sense wouldn't it? Now, the reason I said PvZ and PvP is that T has that retarded ability called concussive shells, which negates micro, and is just plain annoying, especially for stalkers, so except for more specialized builds like fast stalker pressure/etc, I don't think P would get as much use out of the shield upgrades.
ohokurwrong
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Brazil283 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 14:45:08
December 06 2011 14:44 GMT
#28
this is also true

only reason pvt isnt shield first is emp


in pvz its STANDARD reasons being that mutas are bs vs toss and archons need to not get raped by the supposed unit they counter
d9mmdi
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 15:49:23
December 07 2011 15:49 GMT
#29
four attacks paths to attack 2 or 3 bases is something entirely different than 4 angels on a movable armee right? dont you think protoss would activly try to avoid hanging out in an open space (which is rare on Xelnaga anyways)? I dont think you have it in your own hands as Zerg to be able to attack an armee with sentries from 4 angles in every map.
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