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[G] 4v4 NO GAS EVER SO IMBA

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clever_us
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States329 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 16:53:01
December 04 2011 23:59 GMT
#1
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HAI GUYS CLEVER HERE AGAIN WITH ANOTHER PATENTED AWESOME BUILD ORDER THAT WORKS FOR ME IN MY TEAM GAMES AT A DIAMoNDish LEVEL

IT'S CALLED THE NO GAS EVER BUILD BECAUSE IT INVOLVES NEVER GETTING GAS EVER
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PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE HATERS

Build Order:
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15 hatch in main (don't want to get cheezed)
15 pool
*note: do not get gas
21 hatch on nat
WHEN POOL FINISHES, BEGIN CONSTANT QUEEN PRODUCTION

Use all larva on drones. Drop 2 spines in your main and two at your nat. Take new bases and add macro hatcheries as necessary, along with additional spine and spore crawlers.


Why this build is great for 4v4s:

- Who actually gives a fuck about 4v4s? Do you? SHAME ON YOU!
- How many times have you lost to obnoxious mass air units in 4v4s? If you use this build, your queens will scoff in the face of such strategies.

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- You will spread so many creep tumors that you will have vision of the whole map
- You can dump all your gas to your allies and they will build 6 trillion mutas (this is a less purist version of the build, similar to if you got upgrades for your queens. ONLY GET GAS IF YOU HAVE AN IRRATIONAL DESIRE TO WIN)
- It is the ultimate troll strategy, exceeding even Nexus-Nexus-Nexus-8 stargate void rays in trolltasticness

Important components:
- Transfuse micro is the core of this build! I'm not good enough to time it out, so i just hold T and spam click indiscriminately across any queen without full health

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- Keep an eye on your money. If you have a lot, box all the drones at one of your bases, make 24 spine crawlers, and remake the drones. Even if your injects suck, you will have waaaayyyy too many larvae to spend any other way.

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Eventually, even the haters will come around:
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Replays (More to be added ASAP, but for now just the one from which these pics were taken):
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=244933
You will notice that I had the highest APM of anyone in this game. MASS QUEENS VERY HIGH SKILL CEILING STRATEGY! <3 <3 <3
Edit: new replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=244941
Edit 2: another replay, this one courtesy of darkness, playing at a mid-masters level: http://www.mediafire.com/?6469wqlizd7jw06

ATTENTION BIG NAME PERIPHERALS MANUFACTURERS: Feel free to let me know if you want to sponsor me

****
glhf <3
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#2
I was actually expecting this to be terrible and a waste of time, but the pictures make it pretty hilarious lol. The only sad thing is you don't even have gas to upgrade your queens.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
December 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#3
If I was a big name peripheral manufacturer, I would sponsor you.

The line would be called "Queen.x.∞"
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
TejasEagle
Profile Joined August 2011
United States13 Posts
December 05 2011 00:15 GMT
#4
This is an amazing build. I used it and rolled everyone with it.
If your best isn't good enough, do the best of someone better!
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
December 05 2011 00:18 GMT
#5
This is genius....im so doing this later.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
_KiM_
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada498 Posts
December 05 2011 00:41 GMT
#6
haha pretty funny
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10342 Posts
December 05 2011 00:47 GMT
#7
holy shit im gonna use it. this would work in monobattles too.
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Cycle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States300 Posts
December 05 2011 00:55 GMT
#8
Brilliance at its finest. Switching to zerg for this strategy alone.

5/5
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 05 2011 01:03 GMT
#9
You wrote 4vs4... does that mean it doesn't work for 3vs3?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 05 2011 01:07 GMT
#10
Pretty viable strat when you have another zerg with you; you get gas as well, use gas for carapace upgrades and spend all your money on spines/spores/queens while dumping gas onto your other zerg buddy (they go mass muta or something).
:)
clever_us
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States329 Posts
December 05 2011 01:11 GMT
#11
On December 05 2011 10:03 darkness wrote:
You wrote 4vs4... does that mean it doesn't work for 3vs3?


buddy, if your opponent is bad enough, it works in 1v1
glhf <3
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
December 05 2011 01:13 GMT
#12
I love 4v4 strats.

- It is the ultimate troll strategy, exceeding even Nexus-Nexus-Nexus-8 stargate void rays in trolltasticness


oh my god, im glad i'm not the only one that's done this
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
December 05 2011 02:06 GMT
#13
This is actually hilarious. I'm no mass queen expert, but I feel like it would be worthwhile to have one gas just for upgrades and getting lair/hive for more upgrades.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 05 2011 02:14 GMT
#14
Now why would someone want to sponsor a diamond team player :p
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 05 2011 02:25 GMT
#15
Makes me actually want to try this, even though I've never played zerg before xD
Writer:o
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
December 05 2011 02:30 GMT
#16
This build alone got me from rank 10 bronze to rank 1 GM in only a week of 1v1s. Must use build! Especially effective with mid game proxy hatcheries.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Dullahan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States248 Posts
December 05 2011 03:21 GMT
#17
Thank you O Wise One. I have seen the error of my ways. Queen upgrades and overlord creep spew are indeed overrated.
This will now be my go-to build when I random zerg in monos
clever_us
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States329 Posts
December 05 2011 03:26 GMT
#18
On December 05 2011 12:21 Dullahan wrote:
Thank you O Wise One. I have seen the error of my ways. Queen upgrades and overlord creep spew are indeed overrated.
This will now be my go-to build when I random zerg in monos


creep highways are for the weak
glhf <3
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
December 05 2011 03:29 GMT
#19
definitely doing this next 4v4
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 05 2011 05:24 GMT
#20
Amazing. But I think I'd get gas eventually to 1) dump to my teammates and 2) get 3/3 Queens for the lolz.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 06:20:45
December 05 2011 06:14 GMT
#21
On December 05 2011 12:26 clever_us wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 12:21 Dullahan wrote:
Thank you O Wise One. I have seen the error of my ways. Queen upgrades and overlord creep spew are indeed overrated.
This will now be my go-to build when I random zerg in monos


creep highways are for the weak


with that many queens, theres a massive creep tumor highway, spine crawlers push along with it as if they are tanks and profit ensures.
Orange and green did all the winning in that first game btw
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Korinai
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada413 Posts
December 05 2011 06:17 GMT
#22
Holy fuck balls. I'm actually going to go try this right now. 5/5
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
December 05 2011 06:33 GMT
#23
Hahaha, hilarious! :p
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
December 05 2011 06:54 GMT
#24
This is hilarious. Period. So good.
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Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
December 05 2011 08:15 GMT
#25
Love this. Going to try this next 4v4. :D
_KiM_
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada498 Posts
December 05 2011 08:57 GMT
#26
this shit should be on strats
11CheckerS
Profile Joined March 2011
United States22 Posts
December 05 2011 10:30 GMT
#27
I used this strat tonight to great effect! Managed to kill 2 PF's (lol) before losing all my queens to several colossi. I did cheat and use gas for ups and feeding my allies though.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
December 05 2011 12:19 GMT
#28
Queens are the best trolling strategy ever. The amount of games where I just built a ton of queens and nydusworm+creeped up their main for giggles is amazing.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 15:53:24
December 05 2011 15:49 GMT
#29
http://www.mediafire.com/?6469wqlizd7jw06

4vs4 rnd - mid master (450 pts, 19 rank)
http://sc2ranks.com/team/3985640
Don't pay attention to early game bm.. it's a result of last game. :D

Edit: I used gas for upgrades and researched ling speed in the end, but I never actually used lings.
Micro could have been better as well.
clever_us
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States329 Posts
December 05 2011 16:52 GMT
#30
On December 05 2011 21:19 Chaosvuistje wrote:
Queens are the best trolling strategy ever. The amount of games where I just built a ton of queens and nydusworm+creeped up their main for giggles is amazing.


I think you should discuss mass queens in your next epic guide. All the other ones I've read so far have been really helpful :D
glhf <3
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
December 05 2011 18:08 GMT
#31
I read this thread again and started laughing. XD
saltessio
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
January 24 2012 05:01 GMT
#32
This + nydus = freaked out opponent
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