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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
November 29 2011 06:25 GMT
#1
as the title might make apparent, I've decided to try to learn to program. I had some free time today (classes don't start again 'till tomorrow) and spent some time on the setup. I googled around, talked to a friend, and decided to start with C++. I've dabbled with python, and watched some introductory java lectures over the summer, but lost focus with the start of school and the time sink of meeting new people and being in a new place.

Now that things have settled down though, I've found myself with increasing amounts of free time (mandatory freshman study halls + time management + not doing hw that teachers don't collect= more time for myself) and I figure, why not do something useful with it? So i mucked about with visual C++ express for a while, figured out how to do basic stuff like debug and compile, did some reading, and coded up the traditional first application: Hello World!

Now all I have to do is actually learn how to program

My method might sound strange, but I think it'll work. Basically i've found an introductory document/tutorial thing, to teach myself the commands and the syntax, and I'm applying it by doing problems from a wonderful little site called projecteuler.net. what it is, basically, is a collection of mathematical challenges intended to be solved by creating an application to solve it. I've done 2, and plan on doing at least 1 per night until i've solved them all.

pre-edit: nevermind there are over 300. I'll try to do the first 50, and see where i stand then. I'll report back in a month, if it takes that long.

PS: If i'm ever asking for help in the big programming thread, this is probably why.

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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
November 29 2011 06:30 GMT
#2
Well nice move learning something new

You may need a more structured approach as the important stuff in programming in not the language but the structures and logic used to create solutions. Have you done any courses in programming? I suck at it but even I know that most of the stuff is similar regardless of which language you are using.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 06:37:04
November 29 2011 06:36 GMT
#3
You should consider what you actually want to do with programming. If your objective is to be able to solve little mathematical challenges, that approach may work fine. If you actually want to be able to write larger applications though, you're probably going to want to read a book or (better) take a class. Being able to solve individual mathematical things with loops and recursion and stuff is great, but unless you have some level of software design, it's almost guaranteed that any larger thing you end up putting together will be a horrible kludged together mess
Wry
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada25 Posts
November 29 2011 07:10 GMT
#4
Check out Codeforces too, it's more programming centered than projecteuler. Good luck, I have a C++ project worth 12% of my grade due next week, haha.
Sky
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Jordan812 Posts
November 29 2011 07:24 GMT
#5
It'd be neat if you included how you achieved an answer to a problem on Project Euler in your blogs. Code that you tried, but didn't work... and how you went about fixing them. Your mindset at each turning point.
...jumping into cold water whenever I get the chance.
D4Lorg
Profile Joined January 2010
10 Posts
November 29 2011 07:36 GMT
#6
oh, im doing Project euler too. I think they actually require some mathmatical insight cuz I've brute forced most of it and it's taking longer and longer to output the answer.

also, good luck on coding, it's the greatest thing in the world!
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
November 29 2011 10:10 GMT
#7
Like insane said, don't do project euler unless you want to get better at employing math tricks. Besides, I think eventually those problems will require some knowledge of data structures and algorithms, and you'll run into a wall where you'll no longer be able to solve them efficiently. I guess what I'm trying to say is that project euler isn't for beginner programmers trying to learn to program. It's more for experienced programmers who want to write programs to solve math problems.

My recommendation is that you take on a mid-sized project that will be fun for you. For example, program a game from scratch. Along the way you should learn the basics.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 29 2011 13:09 GMT
#8
The best way to learn how to program is to read books about a specific language(low as possible while still being easy, C++ is a good start imho, C# is also fine) and then just go program stuff. Even though that is what people think, programming is no rocket science if you put in the work hours.
AegonC
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 13:54:11
November 29 2011 13:53 GMT
#9
Hey my friend and I made a website for learning c++, you should check it out @ link
Monasou
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States218 Posts
November 29 2011 16:33 GMT
#10
This is awesome. Striving to make yourself better in your free time instead of just going through the motions of everyday DULL life. Fuck yeah smart people.
353 Monasou ♥
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
November 29 2011 19:39 GMT
#11
What do you need to start screwing with a programming language like C++? I've been wanting to start familiarizing myself with a language, because I plan on taking some actual classes in the near future, but I'd like to get myself at least familiar with the basics and such. Basically, how did you start learning on your own. I'd at least like to be able to start solving those basic little math problems and such before I start taking classes.
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