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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 27 2011 20:42 GMT
#1
I don't want this post to be too much a wall of text, so I will try to keep things short and summarize other things. Just know that I have been thinking about this very much for a long time, so if there is anything else you want to know in detail, just ask and I will respond.

Some Background:
  • I have a huge desire to be extremely competitive in SC2 - so much so that thoughts of the game creep into my mind at nearly all times.
  • The same thing was NOT present in BW despite how much I played it, because realistically I was never going to be pro in BW.
  • I am finishing my last semester of college (computer science). I've got the time still to take a risk and try something that is unconventional, uncertain/risky, but something I have a huge desire to do. If this were say, 2 or 3 years from now, I would not be entertaining this thought as I am now.
  • I have the feeling that I will have a huge regret for not trying this path later on in life, even if things turn out for the better should I not have done this.


Starcraft Background
  • Currently 923 Masters Protoss (+88) Bonus pool on RevaPs, main NA account. Was similarly rated in terms of ranking on EU last season, actually slightly higher.
  • I have only really devoted myself to practice for isolated periods of time, as whenever I do so, I cannot stop practicing and everything else goes out the window. I get very angry at myself for my skill not being near where I want it to be, and so cannot stop focusing on practice for the rest of the day - any other concerns/time commitments get fucked over.
  • I truly believe that if I commit myself to fulltime practicing SC2, I can become really really good. If I don't have to worry about doing anything else, I really think I can improve very rapidly and become really good, because I wont just stop at practicing every now and then. The way in which I cannot stop myself from practicing more and more on any one day will instead extend indefinitely.


I'm not doing this out of some unconsidered urge.
  • I know that SC2 is basically a non-transferrable skill.
  • I know that becoming pro in the sense that I want to be is a most nontrivial task and is extremely time consuming, and probably involves a bit of talent as well.
  • I know there's not a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and all's not funsies and candy.


All that aside, I really want to take this risk at least once, and honestly I can only take it once. In a couple years it would stupid to do this (for me anyways). It's probably stupid even now, but it's hard to describe how much of a desire I have to do this. Now is probably the one chance, however silly it may be.

I need to create a firm fail condition.
  • I need a firm fail date. I am thinking that if by the end of July (or even June) 2012, I am not in a pro house yet, then I will abandon this and do a more "normal" thing, which tbh probably won't be quite normal since I want to take jobs around the world and shit, earlier blog about that. Basically office work really isn't something I enjoy or am motivated by in any sense.
  • My goal during practice will be singular - simply to be the absolute best I can be in the time interval I have set aside.



I need input, especially from people who have traveled this road before. How should I approach this? And if possible, from people in the know about team conditions, what are the chances of getting into a team house?

I am reminded of Tgun, who went from Clan OD (relatively unknown in SC2) to FXO while he was still masters, and is now on It's Gosu.

Thanks for any input, this is actually an unexpectedly hard decision for me to make >.<

**
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
November 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#2
Oh hey I've talked to you on bnet before, it's Yoshi.

Anyways I also have similar urges but not just for SC2 but for a career in music performance, though that is probably much harder than SC2 actually (competitive wise). I would like it if someone can share input on this, namely, whether or not it's better to do what you want (dream, whatever) even though it's risky.

Cus if you don't do what you had an urge to do, then you will feel bad that you never tried to go all-in. And even if you do try and fail, you also are disappointed but at least know that it didn't work out. But if you do try and succeed, that would be so epic.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 21:16:52
November 27 2011 21:15 GMT
#3
If your alternative is "going around the world doing jobs and shit" then there really isn't any reason not to do this.

Taking time out to play hardcore ammounts of SC2 means fucking over your education if you are young and your career if you are old.


If you have no intention on obtaining an education or a career, just go and play SC2 for a whole year. The question at hand ofcourse being, can you afford it?

Whatever makes you happy.

Oh hey I've talked to you on bnet before, it's Yoshi.

Anyways I also have similar urges but not just for SC2 but for a career in music performance, though that is probably much harder than SC2 actually (competitive wise). I would like it if someone can share input on this, namely, whether or not it's better to do what you want (dream, whatever) even though it's risky.

Cus if you don't do what you had an urge to do, then you will feel bad that you never tried to go all-in. And even if you do try and fail, you also are disappointed but at least know that it didn't work out. But if you do try and succeed, that would be so epic.


How is a music career harder?

You don't need to be a great musician to make money of it. You need to be an incredible SC2 player to even earn a single dollar with it.

Again, you only have one life. Why would you waste it doing something you don't like when you obviously have something you do care for?
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
November 27 2011 21:16 GMT
#4
Go for it ^_^ and take good care of your wrists! Seems like most progamers have wrist problems nowadays.

From what you've written, it's something you will never regret.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
November 27 2011 21:20 GMT
#5
Just do it.

Once you graduate, you will always have your CS degree to fall back on. If anything, it'll teach you about hard work and blah blah blah life lessons.

As for team houses? I don't think many exist (besides korean and EG's). Most teams just practice online.

anyway, if you end up doing this, it's going to take at least a full year. You need to get your name out there through small online tournaments before any large clan will even look at you. After that, you'll still need results.

So i'd give it a couple months for finding a small team/ winning small tourneys.
then up to a year of research, contacting proteams, trying to break MLG open bracket, etc.

Even if you fail terribly, it'll be something you can look back on and be glad you did. You only live once.

Just do it.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 27 2011 21:21 GMT
#6
On November 28 2011 06:15 zalz wrote:
If your alternative is "going around the world doing jobs and shit" then there really isn't any reason not to do this.

Taking time out to play hardcore ammounts of SC2 means fucking over your education if you are young and your career if you are old.


If you have no intention on obtaining an education or a career, just go and play SC2 for a whole year. The question at hand ofcourse being, can you afford it?

Whatever makes you happy.

Show nested quote +
Oh hey I've talked to you on bnet before, it's Yoshi.

Anyways I also have similar urges but not just for SC2 but for a career in music performance, though that is probably much harder than SC2 actually (competitive wise). I would like it if someone can share input on this, namely, whether or not it's better to do what you want (dream, whatever) even though it's risky.

Cus if you don't do what you had an urge to do, then you will feel bad that you never tried to go all-in. And even if you do try and fail, you also are disappointed but at least know that it didn't work out. But if you do try and succeed, that would be so epic.


How is a music career harder?

You don't need to be a great musician to make money of it. You need to be an incredible SC2 player to even earn a single dollar with it.

Again, you only have one life. Why would you waste it doing something you don't like when you obviously have something you do care for?


That's not my alternative. My alternative is doing a "real job" in programming, and then after I have enough capital, to finance my "stuff around the world". Like I said, I finish my bachelor's degree this semester. I don't intend to go to grad school right away, hell I just don't feel like being in school atm.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 21:25:41
November 27 2011 21:23 GMT
#7
On November 28 2011 06:15 zalz wrote:
If your alternative is "going around the world doing jobs and shit" then there really isn't any reason not to do this.

Taking time out to play hardcore ammounts of SC2 means fucking over your education if you are young and your career if you are old.


If you have no intention on obtaining an education or a career, just go and play SC2 for a whole year. The question at hand ofcourse being, can you afford it?

Whatever makes you happy.

Show nested quote +
Oh hey I've talked to you on bnet before, it's Yoshi.

Anyways I also have similar urges but not just for SC2 but for a career in music performance, though that is probably much harder than SC2 actually (competitive wise). I would like it if someone can share input on this, namely, whether or not it's better to do what you want (dream, whatever) even though it's risky.

Cus if you don't do what you had an urge to do, then you will feel bad that you never tried to go all-in. And even if you do try and fail, you also are disappointed but at least know that it didn't work out. But if you do try and succeed, that would be so epic.


How is a music career harder?

You don't need to be a great musician to make money of it. You need to be an incredible SC2 player to even earn a single dollar with it.

Again, you only have one life. Why would you waste it doing something you don't like when you obviously have something you do care for?


Not just any music career, a music PERFORMANCE career. Especially for piano. Only a very very small percentage of performance majors or music majors or whatever people in general actually are good enough to make enough money (20-30k, which is what you would make working at McDonald's) to live off of pure performance.
At least, this is my understanding. If you have any numbers or know anyone who isn't a super beast at piano or music and can live off of performance comfortably, like mid class, I would love to be told I'm wrong =O

Also is it my misunderstanding that if you don't have a job for a while, usually once you apply for one they might frown at you and wonder why you've not had a job for a few years?
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 27 2011 21:23 GMT
#8
On November 28 2011 06:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Oh hey I've talked to you on bnet before, it's Yoshi.

Anyways I also have similar urges but not just for SC2 but for a career in music performance, though that is probably much harder than SC2 actually (competitive wise). I would like it if someone can share input on this, namely, whether or not it's better to do what you want (dream, whatever) even though it's risky.

Cus if you don't do what you had an urge to do, then you will feel bad that you never tried to go all-in. And even if you do try and fail, you also are disappointed but at least know that it didn't work out. But if you do try and succeed, that would be so epic.


That rather sums up my feeling towards the decision at the moment.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 27 2011 22:12 GMT
#9
On November 28 2011 06:23 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 06:15 zalz wrote:
If your alternative is "going around the world doing jobs and shit" then there really isn't any reason not to do this.

Taking time out to play hardcore ammounts of SC2 means fucking over your education if you are young and your career if you are old.


If you have no intention on obtaining an education or a career, just go and play SC2 for a whole year. The question at hand ofcourse being, can you afford it?

Whatever makes you happy.

Oh hey I've talked to you on bnet before, it's Yoshi.

Anyways I also have similar urges but not just for SC2 but for a career in music performance, though that is probably much harder than SC2 actually (competitive wise). I would like it if someone can share input on this, namely, whether or not it's better to do what you want (dream, whatever) even though it's risky.

Cus if you don't do what you had an urge to do, then you will feel bad that you never tried to go all-in. And even if you do try and fail, you also are disappointed but at least know that it didn't work out. But if you do try and succeed, that would be so epic.


How is a music career harder?

You don't need to be a great musician to make money of it. You need to be an incredible SC2 player to even earn a single dollar with it.

Again, you only have one life. Why would you waste it doing something you don't like when you obviously have something you do care for?


Not just any music career, a music PERFORMANCE career. Especially for piano. Only a very very small percentage of performance majors or music majors or whatever people in general actually are good enough to make enough money (20-30k, which is what you would make working at McDonald's) to live off of pure performance.
At least, this is my understanding. If you have any numbers or know anyone who isn't a super beast at piano or music and can live off of performance comfortably, like mid class, I would love to be told I'm wrong =O

Also is it my misunderstanding that if you don't have a job for a while, usually once you apply for one they might frown at you and wonder why you've not had a job for a few years?


See that's the difference.

You can live off music if you are decent. I never said being decent was good enough to buy a big house and send your kids to college with.


It's about the balance between doing that thing you love and having the money. It's only an extreme select few that make a fortune off music.

If you really have a feel for music then does it really matter that you might make less then a McDonalds employee?
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
November 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#10
I agree with Yoshi Kirishima. Also, I think that it would be a good idea to drill yourself on specific reactions to scouting information. It seems like it would help you a lot in your downtime. For example when you aren't playing, say to yourself "I just saw him go mass hellions and I currently have x. What should I do to counter it?" But of course this will happen much faster inside your head and try to get your reactions to be instant. Make up as many situations as you possibly can. GoodLuck!
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
November 27 2011 22:18 GMT
#11
On November 28 2011 06:23 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 06:15 zalz wrote:
If your alternative is "going around the world doing jobs and shit" then there really isn't any reason not to do this.

Taking time out to play hardcore ammounts of SC2 means fucking over your education if you are young and your career if you are old.


If you have no intention on obtaining an education or a career, just go and play SC2 for a whole year. The question at hand ofcourse being, can you afford it?

Whatever makes you happy.

Oh hey I've talked to you on bnet before, it's Yoshi.

Anyways I also have similar urges but not just for SC2 but for a career in music performance, though that is probably much harder than SC2 actually (competitive wise). I would like it if someone can share input on this, namely, whether or not it's better to do what you want (dream, whatever) even though it's risky.

Cus if you don't do what you had an urge to do, then you will feel bad that you never tried to go all-in. And even if you do try and fail, you also are disappointed but at least know that it didn't work out. But if you do try and succeed, that would be so epic.


How is a music career harder?

You don't need to be a great musician to make money of it. You need to be an incredible SC2 player to even earn a single dollar with it.

Again, you only have one life. Why would you waste it doing something you don't like when you obviously have something you do care for?


Not just any music career, a music PERFORMANCE career. Especially for piano. Only a very very small percentage of performance majors or music majors or whatever people in general actually are good enough to make enough money (20-30k, which is what you would make working at McDonald's) to live off of pure performance.
At least, this is my understanding. If you have any numbers or know anyone who isn't a super beast at piano or music and can live off of performance comfortably, like mid class, I would love to be told I'm wrong =O

Also is it my misunderstanding that if you don't have a job for a while, usually once you apply for one they might frown at you and wonder why you've not had a job for a few years?

Perform as much as you can. Give lessons and tune pianos on the side. And take up a part time job for a while until your lessons / extra money makers start building up. That's what I would do if I went that route. Unfortunately I'm a wannabe composer, so I typically study the structure of popular symphonic movie soundtracks instead of performing.

I'm really trying to cut down on my gaming time so I can have more time for music. But I'm super addicted and I have a lot of games I like to play at the moment. Hopefully I'll be able to change that soon.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 22:54:02
November 27 2011 22:45 GMT
#12
On November 28 2011 07:18 hp.Shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 06:23 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On November 28 2011 06:15 zalz wrote:
If your alternative is "going around the world doing jobs and shit" then there really isn't any reason not to do this.

Taking time out to play hardcore ammounts of SC2 means fucking over your education if you are young and your career if you are old.


If you have no intention on obtaining an education or a career, just go and play SC2 for a whole year. The question at hand ofcourse being, can you afford it?

Whatever makes you happy.

Oh hey I've talked to you on bnet before, it's Yoshi.

Anyways I also have similar urges but not just for SC2 but for a career in music performance, though that is probably much harder than SC2 actually (competitive wise). I would like it if someone can share input on this, namely, whether or not it's better to do what you want (dream, whatever) even though it's risky.

Cus if you don't do what you had an urge to do, then you will feel bad that you never tried to go all-in. And even if you do try and fail, you also are disappointed but at least know that it didn't work out. But if you do try and succeed, that would be so epic.


How is a music career harder?

You don't need to be a great musician to make money of it. You need to be an incredible SC2 player to even earn a single dollar with it.

Again, you only have one life. Why would you waste it doing something you don't like when you obviously have something you do care for?


Not just any music career, a music PERFORMANCE career. Especially for piano. Only a very very small percentage of performance majors or music majors or whatever people in general actually are good enough to make enough money (20-30k, which is what you would make working at McDonald's) to live off of pure performance.
At least, this is my understanding. If you have any numbers or know anyone who isn't a super beast at piano or music and can live off of performance comfortably, like mid class, I would love to be told I'm wrong =O

Also is it my misunderstanding that if you don't have a job for a while, usually once you apply for one they might frown at you and wonder why you've not had a job for a few years?

Perform as much as you can. Give lessons and tune pianos on the side. And take up a part time job for a while until your lessons / extra money makers start building up. That's what I would do if I went that route. Unfortunately I'm a wannabe composer, so I typically study the structure of popular symphonic movie soundtracks instead of performing.

I'm really trying to cut down on my gaming time so I can have more time for music. But I'm super addicted and I have a lot of games I like to play at the moment. Hopefully I'll be able to change that soon.


Oh, it's nice to see another wannabe musician as you say it xD

Thanks for the advice man.

@zalz cus im too lazy to quote xD

Hm well, if I love music and my heart says I should do what I love instead of something I don't like and will possibly hate (due to regretting not doing music, all-in or not), I think I should do music. However, the risk of it not working + fear and the likely lack of support from my family is daunting to me.

I'm thinking of getting both a degree in business and music. I know it varies from school to school what kind of degree, etc., but i'm talking 4-5 years, possibly with little or no extra load. For example Emory it's not for hardcore musicians but with it I can get both a Business bachelor degree and a music BA degree in the same 4 years since their program is just like that (shorter I guess? meh).

But the big thing I was wondering is, maybe I should make one of them a minor instead? idk how much a business minor helps though if i want to work, and a music minor would probably only give me minimal recognition and just be more for myself.

If I work part time and do music on the side I guess it won't be that bad but I don't think I would like it, unless you weren't talking about part time at a mimimal wage job? Is that actually possble to have a part time?

Even though it'll cost more money I'm willing to get both business and music educations just so I can fulfill my dream. And if it somehow doesn't work out, at the least I can work WITH music through business, like work for a music company, or possibly even work for GomTV or something related to SC2 (finance degree, not the managing/administrator kinds)

If someone can give me advice that would be greatly appreciated. I'm just an overwhelmed, confused senior that would like some light ^^

I've talked to the guys at my music lessons place and my teacher said if you wanna do performance you practice 6 hours a day and be lucky. However he didn't stress you have to be super lucky or that you had to be really good, too. I know there is some human aspect to it, like who you are connected to; friends help friends, stuff like that, so even if I'm not the best I have a chance, maybe that's why he only said "if you're lucky". But 6 hours, I could do part time job AND practice 6 hours a day, possibly doing other part time jobs involving music. Since I love playing, playing music 6 hours a day isn't like an extra 6 hours of work since I actually enjoy it. So I'm thinking if i eventually transition into full time music, then I could practice even more than 6 hours. After all usually people work 8 hours on a work day, and again, I have fun playing piano.

Anyway it seems most people here believe that you should do what you want. You have one life, why would you be scared to do what you want? So same can be said to OP I feel. But I would also like to know if you guys have actually experienced "real" life or if you are also just listening to your hearts. A presenter at my school, before her last presentation (she doesn't present past 10th graders at my school) gave a short speech but EMPHASIZED that you do what you love. She mentioned how people laughed at how she was going to get a history degree, but since she loved it, she had the determination and work ethic to accomplish what she dreamed of.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
November 27 2011 23:06 GMT
#13
I am also in kind of the same situation but worse. I consider to play online poker for a living since I have not really succeded in school and I don't understand the point of a 8-17 full-time job. I know it's very risky to not get the degree if I fail, then I'm pretty much screwed. I suggest that you take the degree first and then play SC2 for a living? I don't there are a lot of people who can focus on many things at the same time, not 100 %.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 27 2011 23:09 GMT
#14
On November 28 2011 08:06 GunSec wrote:
I am also in kind of the same situation but worse. I consider to play online poker for a living since I have not really succeded in school and I don't understand the point of a 8-17 full-time job. I know it's very risky to not get the degree if I fail, then I'm pretty much screwed. I suggest that you take the degree first and then play SC2 for a living? I don't there are a lot of people who can focus on many things at the same time, not 100 %.


I'm done with degree in 2 weeks or so. So degree first, then chase this is the plan.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
November 27 2011 23:41 GMT
#15
On November 28 2011 08:09 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 08:06 GunSec wrote:
I am also in kind of the same situation but worse. I consider to play online poker for a living since I have not really succeded in school and I don't understand the point of a 8-17 full-time job. I know it's very risky to not get the degree if I fail, then I'm pretty much screwed. I suggest that you take the degree first and then play SC2 for a living? I don't there are a lot of people who can focus on many things at the same time, not 100 %.


I'm done with degree in 2 weeks or so. So degree first, then chase this is the plan.


Can you give more information about your background? How big your student loan is if at all, how much money you can expect to make first year of working, you are single right? and where do you live, like if it's expensive or not

Since you already have your education, I think you should go all in man. But working part time in the meantime or maybe just for a bit before you start could work too so you have some money. But idk what your situation is?
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 23:45:01
November 27 2011 23:43 GMT
#16
On November 28 2011 08:41 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 08:09 EtherealDeath wrote:
On November 28 2011 08:06 GunSec wrote:
I am also in kind of the same situation but worse. I consider to play online poker for a living since I have not really succeded in school and I don't understand the point of a 8-17 full-time job. I know it's very risky to not get the degree if I fail, then I'm pretty much screwed. I suggest that you take the degree first and then play SC2 for a living? I don't there are a lot of people who can focus on many things at the same time, not 100 %.


I'm done with degree in 2 weeks or so. So degree first, then chase this is the plan.


Can you give more information about your background? How big your student loan is if at all, how much money you can expect to make first year of working, you are single right? and where do you live, like if it's expensive or not

Since you already have your education, I think you should go all in man. But working part time in the meantime or maybe just for a bit before you start could work too so you have some money. But idk what your situation is?


Live in NC, not expensive, idk whatever CS majors get. I have 0 student debt, had scholarships, made slight profit each semester lol. And yes, single.

Though actually if I take this seriously I might be going somewhere else.... can't reveal too many details about it atm. But it's pretty inexpensive too.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 23:47:51
November 27 2011 23:47 GMT
#17
On November 28 2011 08:43 EtherealDeath wrote:
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On November 28 2011 08:41 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On November 28 2011 08:09 EtherealDeath wrote:
On November 28 2011 08:06 GunSec wrote:
I am also in kind of the same situation but worse. I consider to play online poker for a living since I have not really succeded in school and I don't understand the point of a 8-17 full-time job. I know it's very risky to not get the degree if I fail, then I'm pretty much screwed. I suggest that you take the degree first and then play SC2 for a living? I don't there are a lot of people who can focus on many things at the same time, not 100 %.


I'm done with degree in 2 weeks or so. So degree first, then chase this is the plan.


Can you give more information about your background? How big your student loan is if at all, how much money you can expect to make first year of working, you are single right? and where do you live, like if it's expensive or not

Since you already have your education, I think you should go all in man. But working part time in the meantime or maybe just for a bit before you start could work too so you have some money. But idk what your situation is?


Live in NC, not expensive, idk whatever CS majors get. I have 0 student debt, had scholarships, made slight profit each semester lol. And yes, single.

Though actually if I take this seriously I might be going somewhere else.... can't reveal too many details about it atm. But it's pretty inexpensive too.


Damn are you kidding! you have 0 debt lol o.o

Well if you go to Korea, hurray especially if you know korean or if u can join a foreign team (especially with a korean player) i thin that would be a great idea.


Unlike MANY others, you are already 1000 point protoss. That's already GM level. Meaning you can already be considered a semi-pro. From here on out it shouldn't be hard finding a good good competitive team to join, then attending some events, doing well in some small tournies, getting somewhat sponsored, then move to an even bigger team (possibly a big name team?) and from there on out that team might go move to korea (idk how it would work or if that's what you want, like idk if they would pay for you lol but i think they would).


Edit: But I guess what I was asking more for is this: do you have money to live on? enough for at least a year? i think a year is a decent amount of time to spend on sc2 to see where you get
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 23:57:50
November 27 2011 23:51 GMT
#18
On November 28 2011 08:47 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 08:43 EtherealDeath wrote:
On November 28 2011 08:41 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On November 28 2011 08:09 EtherealDeath wrote:
On November 28 2011 08:06 GunSec wrote:
I am also in kind of the same situation but worse. I consider to play online poker for a living since I have not really succeded in school and I don't understand the point of a 8-17 full-time job. I know it's very risky to not get the degree if I fail, then I'm pretty much screwed. I suggest that you take the degree first and then play SC2 for a living? I don't there are a lot of people who can focus on many things at the same time, not 100 %.


I'm done with degree in 2 weeks or so. So degree first, then chase this is the plan.


Can you give more information about your background? How big your student loan is if at all, how much money you can expect to make first year of working, you are single right? and where do you live, like if it's expensive or not

Since you already have your education, I think you should go all in man. But working part time in the meantime or maybe just for a bit before you start could work too so you have some money. But idk what your situation is?


Live in NC, not expensive, idk whatever CS majors get. I have 0 student debt, had scholarships, made slight profit each semester lol. And yes, single.

Though actually if I take this seriously I might be going somewhere else.... can't reveal too many details about it atm. But it's pretty inexpensive too.


Damn are you kidding! you have 0 debt lol o.o

Well if you go to Korea, hurray especially if you know korean or if u can join a foreign team (especially with a korean player) i thin that would be a great idea.


Unlike MANY others, you are already 1000 point protoss. That's already GM level. Meaning you can already be considered a semi-pro. From here on out it shouldn't be hard finding a good good competitive team to join, then attending some events, doing well in some small tournies, getting somewhat sponsored, then move to an even bigger team (possibly a big name team?) and from there on out that team might go move to korea (idk how it would work or if that's what you want, like idk if they would pay for you lol but i think they would).


Edit: But I guess what I was asking more for is this: do you have money to live on? enough for at least a year? i think a year is a decent amount of time to spend on sc2 to see where you get


Financially, I could do a year. On the other hand, I'm not sure if I would consider a year to be a reasonable time commitment if there are no deliverables by an earlier date, currently thinking August 1, in line with other considerations, which are currently under discussion so can't really mention yet.

Unfortunately I do not know Korean . I can read it but I have like no vocab rofl.

Another thing, the June/July date I mentioned in OP was before I heard about this new development lol. What coincidences... so I'm thinking Aug 1 if I utilize this new development, otherwise it'd be the originally mentioned date.
tgun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
434 Posts
November 28 2011 04:22 GMT
#19
Thanks for the shoutout dude. My advice is, after you finish your Comp. Science degree, set aside one or two weeks, and just play for a solid 10-12 hours a day, every day. Weekends, maybe take it a few hours easier, but you have to still be on. If you get through that alright, and you're still willing to keep going, then maybe extend it to a year? However, you always want to set yourself a definitive finish date, and goals.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 04:33:56
November 28 2011 04:33 GMT
#20
On November 28 2011 13:22 tgun wrote:
Thanks for the shoutout dude. My advice is, after you finish your Comp. Science degree, set aside one or two weeks, and just play for a solid 10-12 hours a day, every day. Weekends, maybe take it a few hours easier, but you have to still be on. If you get through that alright, and you're still willing to keep going, then maybe extend it to a year? However, you always want to set yourself a definitive finish date, and goals.


Wow I never thought of that. I can apply that to my situation as well ^0^

Thanksss!!!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
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