• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:36
CET 23:36
KST 07:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2218 users

[DotA] Back to Basics - Page 25

Blogs > Bumblebee
Post a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 40 Next All
tornadokhm
Profile Joined November 2011
1 Post
November 05 2011 21:44 GMT
#481
A very insightful guide. Thank you.
Permeability
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2 Posts
November 05 2011 21:49 GMT
#482
Awesome read! thanks!
Variance
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
November 05 2011 21:50 GMT
#483
Thanks for the guide!
encg
Profile Joined November 2011
United States41 Posts
November 05 2011 21:51 GMT
#484
Thanks for the writeup. I've only played DotA and haven't been following any events or streams so I didn't know much about Dota 2 until this. I've also been following SC2 via TL, but have never made an account until now.
celious
Profile Joined September 2009
United States195 Posts
November 05 2011 21:53 GMT
#485
awesome guide, thanks and thanks for giving keys to the community.
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
November 05 2011 21:55 GMT
#486
Wow, brilliant guide, I thought I was a pretty good player but even I learnt things from this!
Thanks a bunch :D
lol if I get a key, I will honestly kiss someone's feet on the street.
You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
November 05 2011 21:57 GMT
#487
My bro plays dota, and he mains furion. Teleport ftw!!

Very nice guide.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
hjop
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands10 Posts
November 05 2011 22:00 GMT
#488
Guess I better go along with the rest of the herd by saying 'great guide'! :D

Would be awesome to finally be able to play dota 2
Chromie
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland8 Posts
November 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#489
awesome guide , keep it up ^^
"Paper is fine, Nerf rock" ~Sincerly, Scissors ...
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
November 05 2011 22:02 GMT
#490
On November 06 2011 06:43 gullberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 06:40 Jitsu wrote:
Hey Bumble, I also had a question. I saw that you had said your favorite support was OmniKnight. My build with him differed what I was facing, but I found that, even at max level, I would leave only two points in Repel. Because my heal couldn't go through my own shield, I felt that having it's duration last 10 seconds instead of 20 could be a lot more beneficial than the 20 seconds of Repel without healing. Thoughts?

Why would you do that? The fact that you can give anyone a 20 second BKB is your best asset lategame, considering that your heal is not very useful lategame either.


I always felt that that additional 10 seconds sometimes did more harm than good.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
Ognam
Profile Joined October 2011
United States798 Posts
November 05 2011 22:02 GMT
#491
Another awesome guide. Might also want to mention that killing melee barracks is better than the ranged due to difference in creep numbers.

I believe there was a game with old MYM vs Na'Vi in Farm4Fame where they came back from megacreeps. It's one of the top rated on gosugamers.
Gnight
Profile Joined September 2011
77 Posts
November 05 2011 22:06 GMT
#492
Well, as a complete newbie to the Dota genre, this guide gave me nice view of the basics of the game, will surely help me in the future when I am free to play Dota 2.

Though, here comes a newbie question, the... Moon Priestress, doesn't she has "extra's" in night time as well?
Or is it really just Nightstalker that gains something "extra" when it's night time?

Not that I am doubting the info provided by Bumblee, just something that crossed my mind from watching streams here and there, could be my imagination in the end. ^ ^

Also, there are no Heroes that will gain something "extra" in the day time?


Either way, thanks for the nice guide Bumblee and for the others you made. Still need to check those though, just found out from this guide. xD
“Sleep is like the unicorn - it is rumored to exist, but I doubt I will see any”
GoHome
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3 Posts
November 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#493
good guide for us newbs! :D
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
November 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#494
I want DotA2 :D
Thanks for the write up
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Kaidence
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands18 Posts
November 05 2011 22:08 GMT
#495
Well written, I wish stuff like this was around when I started back in the original DotA :D
Harkness
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark3 Posts
November 05 2011 22:09 GMT
#496
Thanks for writing this, i'd love a key.
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
November 05 2011 22:10 GMT
#497
Good to see a very solid guide for beginners. After countless hours of playing DOTA, these things become like second nature though.
Jaedong plz
s1dd
Profile Joined June 2010
United States43 Posts
November 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#498
Really good guide. I haven't played DotA seriously in a few years, and this helped refresh my memory. Good writeup
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
November 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#499
On November 06 2011 07:02 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 06:43 gullberg wrote:
On November 06 2011 06:40 Jitsu wrote:
Hey Bumble, I also had a question. I saw that you had said your favorite support was OmniKnight. My build with him differed what I was facing, but I found that, even at max level, I would leave only two points in Repel. Because my heal couldn't go through my own shield, I felt that having it's duration last 10 seconds instead of 20 could be a lot more beneficial than the 20 seconds of Repel without healing. Thoughts?

Why would you do that? The fact that you can give anyone a 20 second BKB is your best asset lategame, considering that your heal is not very useful lategame either.


I always felt that that additional 10 seconds sometimes did more harm than good.

The 2nd spell on OmniKnight is not an extra 10 seconds. It's 6, 8, 10, 12 seconds. The cooldown is 14 seconds.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Sels
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico3 Posts
November 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#500
Coming from LoL into DotA I never imagined there were going to be this much difference, ty for the insight.

Now I better get myself war3 if I dont wanna scrub it out, bot games here I go!.
wat
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 40 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: GosuLeague
21:00
RO16 SWISS - Day 1
ZZZero.O133
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 121
JuggernautJason88
ForJumy 42
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20406
Rain 2405
Calm 2084
Shuttle 317
ZZZero.O 133
Leta 111
NaDa 11
Counter-Strike
ScreaM691
shoxiejesuss678
allub276
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken20
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu443
Other Games
Grubby5843
FrodaN2462
fl0m493
shahzam477
C9.Mang0119
Maynarde62
Chillindude40
Trikslyr36
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta30
• musti20045 30
• Dystopia_ 6
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki17
• FirePhoenix8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV689
League of Legends
• Doublelift1285
• TFBlade912
Other Games
• imaqtpie1151
• Scarra645
• Shiphtur297
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 24m
The PondCast
11h 24m
Replay Cast
1d
RSL Revival
1d 8h
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Reynor
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
BSL: GosuLeague
1d 22h
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
IPSL
4 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.