• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:47
CET 10:47
KST 18:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced11[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Which season is the best in ASL? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1208 users

Thoughts and stuffs :) (might be heavy)

Blogs > NB
Post a Reply
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 03:51:11
September 28 2011 03:26 GMT
#1
First of all, i was looking for some sort of public paste bin where i can just paste in the youtube vids or stuff that i like on the internet, therefore the entire bonus section of this blog entry will be songs, gif or w/e i found interesting.

Lets get anoying stuff out of the way first before we talk about sc2 shall we? My life is horrible atm, many thing stacking up overtime and prob. will blow up in the next few months. Luckily in moment like this, I just have realized that my life before that is even worse.... Yeah thats right! They call it FML KMN on big bang theory, things didnt turn out the way i planned them to be few years ago.

To be clear, I dont drink, dont smoke, no drug. Life is clean but ugly from my point of view. Guess there is always a need of something to compare(as contrast to) with happiness and thats where im standing atm. Under this circumstance I dont even wana have a girl friend, which most people at my age are looking for... Weird, some of them are even married... 19-20 For Fuck Sake! Good luck living with who ever ur choose for the rest of ur life, My uncle is trying to divorce my aunt even though they have 3 kids and the oldest is like what? 16? LOL....

Not much or at least i think im no longer a guy who brag about personal boring stuff on a blog. Experience has shown that human is a limited space of story storage and most likely your story is not worthy for them to give a fuck about. Unless they are your parents, which in case i want them not to know, the only people i can share shit with are completely out of touch and contacting them just give them more burden in life they have to care about. A good friend wont do that, I wont do that, I want them to be happy and in this case, they are. (wana somehow quote Jinro 'i wont fuck over a friend like that' here but that seem a little too strong)

Thank god new season of sitcom just start. HIMYM, Big bang theory, 2.5 men, etc...

GAMING: (yes, the good part ^_^)

1/Non-sc2 related:
Have been playing a TON of dota lately. Huge thanks to TL-Diamondbar community to support me getting back into the scene. Living oversea make me lost all of my SEA dota contacts, I still have them on facebook or Yahoo messenger(yeah we use that in SEA) but its almost useless. Loving the meta game shift once smoke and the new heroes came out. Cant believe Invoker had become so OP especially if u raise him QW.

I am SO SO SO excited for DotA2. No Key yet but I AM EXCITED!!!! DotA is what keep me in the gaming scene despite parents and school works. Without it i would be a souless corporate intern now. Trying to enter as much contest as possible and ready to switch to DotA2 for at least a month after get into beta. I dont have a favorite hero to pick but i prob will go with SandKing as my first dota2 pick.

I also wanted to try out D3 but since im not that found of the market real currency thing, i doubt that i will buy it. Unless the entire Waterloo university is playing it (like they are playing LoL now), i dont think i would ever touch that game except beta. Speaking of which i just update my LoL, hvnt play since april fool and gona play few games this week with my friend Patrick and Allen and Daniel. Heard they have goten pretty good lately, gota test out .

SC2 Related:
Huge shout out to CSL staff and UWaterloo CSL team, They both have done a good good job. CSL new season just kicked in with a bigger player pools with some drastic change in term of power ranking and line up. Even though we at Waterloo still foresee a final between UBC and UWaterloo (which in my opinion UBC will win unless Blizz nerf Stalife), The number of contestant and their identity into this playoff will change with quite a few upset. From 3 to 15 in the CSL power ranking, there will be huge changes.

One thing really good to note about the past CSL result is that on the same level, team with Terran players will always have a better result than team with P or Z heavy. The main reason i think is because Terran dont have to suffer the mirror match up as hard as other races. They are also not map dependent if not to say the map are in favored of their side. This is not a tournament map issue but more about a bad design concept of the other 2 races. In away they want to keep the franchise of SC:BW on the new engine with different AI system. Of course things will crash down eventually. People can go on days and days about this in the balance design thread but clearly, no one has admitted that sc2 has a good balance design system, EVER.

Since we mentioned balance, lets talk about the new patch a bit shall we? 1.4 and the current meta game. (from a Protoss point of view, i could speak for other races as well since i do coach and give my friends advice but i dont wana type them out)

PvP: It is interesting how people think 4 gate would not work. IT STILL DOES!!!
To clarify, most people in lower league dont even understand a bit about 4 gates in PvP and there are a lot of misconceptions in master + GM league. The simple reason is that no one care to study how a cheese actually work except combatex or deezer. Let me tell you: before 1.4, there are basicly 2 types of 4 gates. The first one is you have a proxy pylon somewhere close to the enemy base, once your wrap research done, you wrap in 4 stalkers + (2 stalkers 1 zealot) = 6 stalkers 1 zealot. Then u go to his ramp, poke up the zealot and try to snipe stuff up hill while ur pylons(2) at ramp goes up, wrap on the ramp to get high ground vision until eventually break the defense . This has been 99% negated in 1.4. However, there is the 2nd type of 4 gates where you push with 1 stalker, 1 zealot, 1 probe into enemy base. This push is designed to "trade units" before the 4 gates kicked in. If you trade units, the enemy simply will have less DPS than what they need to kill your pylon(could be down or upper ramp). By forcing the unit trade (even thought you could lose), you assure the pylon(s) will survive once your 4 gates kicked in and you simply will out produce the non-4gate player from then. 1.4 didnt stop this. It takes a lots of time to kill 1 zealot 1 stalker early on, long enough for a pylon to go up and fully function. After that, a 4 gate will be a 4 gate.

Now what does this mean? it simply means that you cant really cut corner too much. Even if you cut on stalker to get a sentry out early, you simply wont have enough gas to support both tech and sentry at the same time. Not even counting your production is nowhere closed to a 4 gate. As a result we can see a lots of 3 gate pressure(aka fake 4 gate) /4gate on korean ladder through out sase or HuK stream.

So what did patch 1.4 helped in PvP??? You can safely tech to colossus vs blink stalker. Thats it. If the enemy go blink, u can block it with 1 Forcefield and there will be no blink up ramp without air vision. This means that 3 colossus 'timing attack' (all in) is BACK. Knowing this people try to go blind stargate sometime when they scout a quick robo... silly guy, i canceled the robo and go DT -> free win. The match up becomes a soft coin flip early game with room for players to wiggle, expand and turn into a 2 base robo fest with the occasionally double stargate VR.

Good players are now placing their robo/structure between nat and main to be safer from a blink in snipe. The match up is evolving but slowly and steady. With wrap prism health increase, robo is now the ultimate choice despite a slight vs stargate weaknesses.

PvT:
huge shoutout to Nimbus aka AresEffort for helping me practice. Playing dota make my macro in 30-40 mins games slip so bad... There were a point i made 12 DTs at once and turn them into all archons @_@.... Apparently you need some major AoE damage (aka good storm aka dodge all EMP aka impossible) to deal with terran once their medivacs raise around 5 or more. I have been beaten with 1-0 Terran despite my 2-3 upgrades before. Positioning also has a major factor into it.

The meta game vs bio has not change one bit, once you get ahead, try to get forge upgrades. That will give you a bit edge to get 3rd up. Its interesting how sage decided to use DT mid game recently with wraprism. I find it a briliant way to force scan and secure map control. Watch this 1st game http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors6/vod/66256. The theory is basicly rotate around T's 3rd base: is it an orbital or a PF. If its an orbital, position pylon/prism so you can do a small 3 zealot counter attack into his 3rd mineral line. If its a PF do DT drop to force scan and gain map control. There will be no real answer for this unless T start getting raven in TvP.

1/1/1 still common but Protoss is being more aggressive with their army now a day which make the rush much weaker. Some people want to be Hero, phoenix switching to deny banshee. Others, choose to be creative and skip the 3rd immortal, get a prism and execute a bulldog BW style. Just like 4 gates, 1/1/1 comes in different style, different format for both player which make it a rock paper kinda game and Terran is the one who decided to take a risk. hope in the next few weeks we will see sage/Oz show the world wassup in code A final.

Note to self: hallucination is underused and there is no arbiter to stop a wall of death. Need to find solution!!!! Nexus 1st is actually safe on a lot of map!!!! DO THE SAGE BUILD ASDASF!!!

PvZ: immortal buff make Z start using muta more and more in this match up... more spine/lings early on into muta, the most anoying style accoring to 80% of protoss player in low-mid level. This however is completely free win for high level protoss if you watch stream of minigun or HuK... i dont know how they do it but... it happens.

As prism play occurs more and more, people start realizing how BAD colossus are. Obs: awesome, Prism: awesome, immortal: ok, Colossus: MEH. Reason? 200-200 + 200-200 for a robo bay with range + giant build time. Thats the cost of the storm research right there! HT you can produce them under wrapgate CD, colo? lol.... Also HT has basicly no 'hard counter' in the ZvP match up mean while corruptors muta just rape the shit out colossi build. Mineral light also help u set up cannons/ nexus. Conclusion: HT route: 9.5/10, colossus route: 6/10. Notice how with Prism play, you can execute "Plexa' Shock and awe" play style so effectively late game with HT cannons defense while teching into VR carriers. Not to mention having archon/zealot heavy army lategame will help a tons vs the ultra switch.

This match up has so many stuff to exploit. Take a look at HongUn game yesterday, he went 2 stargate blink. Imagine what if with the same execution,instead of 2nd gate it was a robo, instead of another VR it would be a prism and 2 sentries? quick blink directly into Z main using phoenix vision? LOL... No in all seriousness, the lack of anti air on zerg has been discovered since beta phase 1. Once you combine it with the lack of Force Field counter of zerg, it will leave them less and less options. Sadly these strat requires a perfect execution and not much master/gm level player could pull it off.

Idra also commented how mothership in PvZ is good now due to infestor change :D... yay, more storm vortex!!!!!!!

-------------------------------------end strat rant 1.4--------------------------------

Hmmmm, i do have a ton more stuff i wana write about on sc2... but SoTG is starting, gota watch :3

So here are the bonuses:
+Songs:






Check out Yiruma album In the yellow room if your 18+, if 18- go listen to Album First love.

+awesome stuff:
ever wonder how gateway turn into wrapgate?


+must watch if ur into dota/dota2


+lightgirl is healthy and tweeting everyday
http://twitter.com/#!/JJJung0211

+did you know TL has a free/awesome teamspeak sever?
ts3server://ts3.teamliquid.net: 9988

Pic:
[image loading]

some wallpapers i never use:
http://i.imgur.com/72Tvs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WOpRw.jpg

well, thats about IT! have fun scrolling! Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/uw_NB im out!!!

P/s: dont really feel like adding spoiler/quote tag or editing this entry... Will see :-/
Edit: nvm, the 2 wall papers are giant


*
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
September 28 2011 04:13 GMT
#2
I don't think Stalife is UBC's best player at all. 4kWarden is on UBC
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
September 28 2011 04:22 GMT
#3
That kitten is creeping me out man.
Moderator
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
September 28 2011 04:58 GMT
#4
Amazed this isn't a girl blog after reading the title. Good job.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 28 2011 05:03 GMT
#5
On September 28 2011 13:22 p4NDemik wrote:
That kitten is creeping me out man.

Take away the rag, insert kitten into horror movie. Instant success.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
September 28 2011 06:30 GMT
#6
good practice
Moderatorgold coin
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 37
MindelVK 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34543
Larva 802
Soma 310
Sharp 144
Barracks 131
Rush 115
ggaemo 102
ZergMaN 72
ajuk12(nOOB) 54
JulyZerg 28
[ Show more ]
Shinee 27
zelot 22
Terrorterran 18
Noble 14
IntoTheRainbow 7
NotJumperer 7
Shine 4
Dota 2
qojqva2160
XcaliburYe272
NeuroSwarm237
Other Games
summit1g14081
Happy492
Fuzer 217
crisheroes26
Mew2King25
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick873
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream308
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 37
• LUISG 30
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 45
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota248
League of Legends
• Jankos2313
Other Games
• Shiphtur276
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14m
NightMare vs YoungYakov
Krystianer vs Classic
ByuN vs Shameless
SKillous vs Percival
WardiTV Korean Royale
2h 14m
Zoun vs SHIN
TBD vs Reynor
TBD vs herO
Solar vs TBD
BSL 21
10h 14m
Hawk vs Kyrie
spx vs Cross
Replay Cast
14h 14m
Wardi Open
1d 2h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Wardi Open
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.