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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
What should I do? I still like the game, I've got the mechanics to play with all three races, it's just that my timings, my decisions and my planning sucks almost everytime. I just don't know what to do. If WoW didn't suck so much and was comparable to the Vanilla-BC times, I'd say to hell with this game I'm playing WoW, but since it sucks so much right now, I have no idea. Single player games only go for so long.   | ||
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frogmelter
United States971 Posts
If it's a venting thread, just understand that what you're feeling is natural and every 'good' gamer has gone through it. The people that get through it are the people that reach a completely different level of mastery of the game. If it's a help thread, then just post a few replays and we can analyze and work out mistakes and improve your game. | ||
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aisight
United States145 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
I've never had timings or any sort of planning and I play in high masters. IMO stop bothering with being smart for a while and just macro like a beast. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
Macro only helps to some degree. | ||
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hiREvel
United States80 Posts
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:12 Bleak wrote: Seriously I'm not sure what keeps me uninstalling Starcraft 2 anymore. Every game is a ragefest, I must be on a 20 loss streak right now, I am messing around in ladder, recently got demoted to Platinum from Diamond, right now playing Random, losing to everything on any matchup on any map, seriously if I didn't buy my new computer recently, I'd fucking burn it to pieces with this rage right now. I don't even care anymore, lost the game? Alright, quit and start again and to lose that again..... What should I do? I still like the game, I've got the mechanics to play with all three races, it's just that my timings, my decisions and my planning sucks almost everytime. I just don't know what to do. If WoW didn't suck so much and was comparable to the Vanilla-BC times, I'd say to hell with this game I'm playing WoW, but since it sucks so much right now, I have no idea. Single player games only go for so long. Why ask help if u allready know what ur doing wrong. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32157 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:33 Jakkerr wrote: Why ask help if u allready know what ur doing wrong. Why post if you have nothing to add? I am not in an environment to improve at all. None of my RL friends play SC2, I don't have too many ladder friends since contrary to what people think, practice partner thread does nothing to help you find people...even if they are online they are either busy or something.. then I just can't improve. I am not sure what to do for the first time since retail I'm playing players from gold..I'm that bad right now. I started Protoss, was absolutely terrible. Switched to Zerg, made to Diamond last December. After another huge losing streak, switched Terran, and got to diamond about a month ago. Now I'm losing left and right and don't know what to do. | ||
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Ignorant prodigy
United States385 Posts
seriously… if you lose you won’t be too upset.. if you win you will be happy.. you may even get your opponent to rage instead. Play some 3v3s or 4v4s… playing games on tilt will just make you more upset when you lose. Cannon rush, two port banshee, 6 pool on small maps. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:30 Bleak wrote: Macro doesn't help when Terran slowpushes you to death and you gotta deal vikings and all that thing, tank positioning....it gives me nightmares.. Macro only helps to some degree. I'm pretty sure I could get at the very least high diamond doing just bio as T or meching with terrible army management. Can't imagine a player with decent macro not getting out of gold even with poor control. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:54 Djzapz wrote: I'm pretty sure I could get at the very least high diamond doing just bio as T or meching with terrible army management. Can't imagine a player with decent macro not getting out of gold even with poor control. It doesn't when they camp at a choke and sit there for whole game. I try to go around, find openings to harrass...but he has tanks there aswell...I do some damage, kill some buildings, then lose my army. I've never felt this desperate, this hopeless, this angry playing this game. I just wish I never switched races. It fucked me up in the long run. I'm a fucking idiot. | ||
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:51 Ignorant prodigy wrote: Cheese two port banshee Two port banshee isn´t cheese. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:51 Ignorant prodigy wrote: Cheese seriously… if you lose you won’t be too upset.. if you win you will be happy.. you may even get your opponent to rage instead. Play some 3v3s or 4v4s… playing games on tilt will just make you more upset when you lose. Cannon rush, two port banshee, 6 pool on small maps. I don't like cheese. I like playing straight up, I take risks only when there is a clear opening where I can see it'll probably work. | ||
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Yew
United States940 Posts
YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On September 15 2011 04:23 Yew wrote: Sounds like things are looking... *sunglasses* Bleak YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!  My nickname is depressing, my life is depressing, lately SC2 is depressing, things are going great for about 8-9 months for me. | ||
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pStar
996 Posts
On September 15 2011 04:31 Bleak wrote: My nickname is depressing, my life is depressing, lately SC2 is depressing, things are going great for about 8-9 months for me.Sounds like you're depressed. I think you summed it up in your OP though "im messing about in ladder" Gonna keep falling if you gonna keep messing | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:44 Bleak wrote: Why post if you have nothing to add? I am not in an environment to improve at all. None of my RL friends play SC2, I don't have too many ladder friends since contrary to what people think, practice partner thread does nothing to help you find people...even if they are online they are either busy or something.. then I just can't improve. I am not sure what to do for the first time since retail I'm playing players from gold..I'm that bad right now. I started Protoss, was absolutely terrible. Switched to Zerg, made to Diamond last December. After another huge losing streak, switched Terran, and got to diamond about a month ago. Now I'm losing left and right and don't know what to do. Exactly... as I said u answered ur own question. U wonder why u lose when u say u got the mechanics (basics) to play with all 3 races but don't really know any timings or anything with the races. Well that's about gold/plat level I'm not too amazed about that. It also sounds like u got some mentality issues while playing, u gotta play to win, otherwise there is no point in playing at all. Breaks help a lot, sometimes when I play bad, I just take a break for a week or a few days. And usually I play much better after that break. U want to improve? Pick a race, learn some builds, practice those builds every game, u will get to masters. It's not that hard really, there's like 3 of these threads every day. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On September 15 2011 04:37 Jakkerr wrote: Exactly... as I said u answered ur own question. U wonder why u lose when u say u got the mechanics (basics) to play with all 3 races but don't really know any timings or anything with the races. Well that's about gold/plat level I'm not too amazed about that. It also sounds like u got some mentality issues while playing, u gotta play to win, otherwise there is no point in playing at all. Breaks help a lot, sometimes when I play bad, I just take a break for a week or a few days. And usually I play much better after that break. U want to improve? Pick a race, learn some builds, practice those builds every game, u will get to masters. It's not that hard really, there's like 3 of these threads every day. Biggest issue was picking a race. I switched races whenever I hit a block...And now I hit a massive block and there is no option but going back to P (which I could do...P has fun units and looks great on Ultra settings....but PvP sucks) or Random. My confidence is so terrible with T right now that I just don't know if it'll matter. Actually, I just hate to know that I've been in diamond a month ago and soon to be Gold. If I get out of gold with T, what's the point I've already been there, it's my own idiocy that got me down. I'd feel even worse when I got back to Diamond to T knowing that. | ||
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aisight
United States145 Posts
On September 15 2011 03:56 Bleak wrote: It doesn't when they camp at a choke and sit there for whole game. I try to go around, find openings to harrass...but he has tanks there aswell...I do some damage, kill some buildings, then lose my army. I've never felt this desperate, this hopeless, this angry playing this game. I just wish I never switched races. It fucked me up in the long run. I'm a fucking idiot. Then camp his choke and don't let him expand while you take over the entire map. | ||
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Ignorant prodigy
United States385 Posts
On September 15 2011 04:17 Bleak wrote: I don't like cheese. I like playing straight up, I take risks only when there is a clear opening where I can see it'll probably work. i didn't say change you philosophy behind your game play. I was just making a suggestion to try and make the game more fun and less stressful for you.. I lol'd at your comment about taking a risk that will 'probably work' If that were the case you wouldn't have lost 20 games in a row.. you're obviously doing something wrong or your assessment of what will 'probably work' is way off | ||
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
This game is fun. Why would you play it if you're not having fun? -TLO If your goal is to get better, than you need to take steps to analyze your play properly and identify where your weak points are. Are you losing to army size/composition, timing attacks, or are there other factors? I don't want to sit here and repeat what everyone says, but I will anyway. SC2 is easy to learn, but hard to master. Losing streaks happen. Take it as an oppurtunity to learn from the mistakes you make. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
You will not get better at a game if it doesn't bring you joy to play it. Without joy you wont care enough to get better. | ||
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josemb40
Peru611 Posts
On September 15 2011 04:23 Yew wrote: Sounds like things are looking... *sunglasses* Bleak YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! You sir just made me laugh, congrats | ||
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1a
Canada36 Posts
AAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA | ||
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LuciferSC
Canada535 Posts
Getting help (and I ain't saying this to offend u at all) may be good, but u ultimately have to find the thing that'll get ur life going again. Keep looking - don't give up - and in the meantime hang in there tight, stop beating urself up because there will be the light at the end of the tunnel - one can only sink so low before they hit the ground and bounce/jump up from there. As for SC2, despite ur own claim u do not have the mechanics down. I'd suggest watching the pros (GSL, etc) and learn from them. Until then it's pointless continuing to play blind. Why keep hitting a wall with a hammer when u can't see the nail? (Unless u're just being destructive) Good luck. | ||
ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On September 15 2011 05:34 LuciferSC wrote: U sir, are depressed and I know u realize it urself as well. Getting help (and I ain't saying this to offend u at all) may be good, but u ultimately have to find the thing that'll get ur life going again. Keep looking - don't give up - and in the meantime hang in there tight, stop beating urself up because there will be the light at the end of the tunnel - one can only sink so low before they hit the ground and bounce/jump up from there. As for SC2, despite ur own claim u do not have the mechanics down. I'd suggest watching the pros (GSL, etc) and learn from them. Until then it's pointless continuing to play blind. Why keep hitting a wall with a hammer when u can't see the nail? (Unless u're just being destructive) Good luck. Thanks alot, I actually had a similar conversation with my dad...I guess I need to find a new goal...Losing weight was the last really big goal I had and after that I'm kinda left empty besides graduating and getting a job, and that's more depressing than fun tbh to me. As for mechanics, what I meant was hotkeys etc, and I rarely get supply blocked. My macro isn't bad. I just don't know how to utilize it lately. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Sega92
United States467 Posts
What should I do? I still like the game, I've got the mechanics to play with all three races, it's just that my timings, my decisions and my planning sucks almost everytime. I just don't know what to do.. well it sounds like you need to improve and you are getting beat by players that are better than you, if your timings,decisions and planning all "suck" maybe you shouldn't have been in diamond did you take a long break from sc2? | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On September 15 2011 06:08 Sega92 wrote: well it sounds like you need to improve and you are getting beat by players that are better than you, if your timings,decisions and planning all "suck" maybe you shouldn't have been in diamond did you take a long break from sc2? I've switched races. Since retail, P for 2-2,5months (I got to Plat at most, that was a long time ago and I was terrible), then Z for another 3-4 months (got to diamond at most, around december), then I switched T, demoted to Plat, and got to diamond at most again. It just took a long streak of TvZs losses, which were on a day that people miraculously decided to play only zerg. And after that, less confidence, less caring, more despair and it kept going downhill. I also don't play as much as I could. I watch streams and tourneys much more. I'm aware I'm not great, but I was able to beat these players that I lose right now that are way worse than me if I was playing my potential. It's also weird, when you lose games you match with lower players and they have much more tendancy to play randomly and it catches you offguard. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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LuciferSC
Canada535 Posts
Well sounds like u got a pretty solid base to work with. I recommended watching pro games 'cause even though u're looking at specific builds with any given match, after watching 10+ games, u'll begin to get a sense of what each build will do. U need to get familiar with each popular opening builds (and there ain't that many per race), and shouldn't be too hard for u to pick it up since u already play all 3 races. Also if u're having trouble with terrans playing tank pressure builds, u'll find plenty of examples of counter-builds on pro games. | ||
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