Hey guise (but especially Artosis, Day9, and other casters)

The word Noblesse is a french word, and it is pronounced "no-bless," not "no-bul-ess" Link to how to pronounce from google translate

The origin of the word in English is from the phrase Noblesse oblige, and it figuratively means "with power/nobility comes responsibility." (literally means nobility obliges)

Thank you!

Saechiis

Netherlands4989 Posts

August 27 2011 20:50 GMT

That's what they're saying ... right?

Kraznaya

United States3711 Posts

August 27 2011 20:50 GMT

No they're saying "Noble S"

Jtn

444 Posts

August 27 2011 20:52 GMT

Uh....when I say no-bless it sounds exactly the same as no-bul-ess.

Fontong

United States6454 Posts

August 27 2011 20:55 GMT

Not that I've been following the casting scene at all...

But when does this come up? :S

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

August 27 2011 20:55 GMT

On August 28 2011 05:45 Kraznaya wrote:
The origin of the word is from the phrase Noblesse oblige, and it figuratively means "with power/nobility comes responsibility." (literally means nobility obliges)

huh?
that makes about as much sense as saying the origin of merry is merry christmas :p

Djzapz

Canada10681 Posts

August 27 2011 20:56 GMT

On August 28 2011 05:55 Carnac wrote:

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huh?
that makes about as much sense as saying the origin of merry is merry christmas :p

Pretty much.

People need to stop desecrating my language

On August 28 2011 05:55 Fontong wrote:
Not that I've been following the casting scene at all...

But when does this come up? :S

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Noblesse

pyaar

United States423 Posts

August 27 2011 21:02 GMT

The origin of the word is from the phrase Noblesse oblige, and it figuratively means "with power/nobility comes responsibility." (literally means nobility obliges)

what? so in the same way, does the word "birthday" originate from the phrase happy birthday?
^edit: beaten to it lol

but that aside, just let them pronounce it how they want to. there's no reason to stop people from saying borrowed words in the most comfortable way. the point of the cast isn't to give a course in language.

for example, strictly speaking, the plural of "nexus" in latin is "nexus", + Show Spoiler +

(if you really want to know, it's because "nexus", meaning a tethering or connection, is a fourth declension noun in latin. other words like cactus belong to the second declension, and are pluralized with an -i.)

but it's awkward for anyone not knowledgeable in latin (99.9% of viewers) to hear "those nexus". and that's assuming that we ought to apply latin grammar to a word being used in english in the first place.

Kraznaya

United States3711 Posts

August 27 2011 21:02 GMT

On August 28 2011 05:55 Carnac wrote:

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huh?
that makes about as much sense as saying the origin of merry is merry christmas :p

shit, typo, i meant the origin of the word coming into english :<

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

August 27 2011 21:04 GMT

#10

Maybe they want to sound like koreans and pronounce it like koreans

Kraznaya

United States3711 Posts

August 27 2011 21:04 GMT

#11

On August 28 2011 05:52 Jtn wrote:
Uh....when I say no-bless it sounds exactly the same as no-bul-ess.

you pronounce bless like "buh-less?"

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

August 27 2011 21:06 GMT

#12

On August 28 2011 06:02 pyaar wrote:
for example, strictly speaking, the plural of "nexus" is "nexus", (if you really want to know, it's because "nexus", meaning a tethering or connection, is a fourth declension noun in latin. other words like cactus belong to the second declension, and are pluralized with an -i.) but it's awkward for anyone not knowledgeable in latin (99.9% of viewers) to hear "those nexus".

and latin grammar rules apply to english how exactly?

pyaar

United States423 Posts

August 27 2011 21:07 GMT

#13

On August 28 2011 06:06 Carnac wrote:

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and latin grammar rules apply to english how exactly?

did you read my entire post? my point is that rigidly applying the grammar and pronunciation of borrowed words is silly.

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

August 27 2011 21:15 GMT

#14

I did, wasn't that clear to me though, the only obvious relativization I saw was the awkwardness for people not knowing latin.

And I wouldn't call it silly as much as completely futile and wrong :p We agree though.

pyaar

United States423 Posts

August 27 2011 21:18 GMT

#15

yeah that was unclear lol, cleaned it up a little. agreed.

Achromic

773 Posts

August 27 2011 21:22 GMT

#16

We all pronounce it as "no-bless". Thats how everyone has been pronouncing it.

"No-Bul-Le-ss" is Korean and they say it exactly how it is supposed to be pronounced but in 4 syllables, as they can't pronounce no-bless in to two syllables.

SpoR

United States1542 Posts

August 27 2011 21:22 GMT

#17

it all depends on how the owner of the name pronounces it. Nony was new-knee, Idra is id-ruh, etc.

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

August 27 2011 21:32 GMT

#18

On August 28 2011 06:22 SpoR wrote:
it all depends on how the owner of the name pronounces it. Nony was new-knee, Idra is id-ruh, etc.

Yes, but those are made up words. This is a proper word with a "proper" pronunciation. I think what the OP is trying to say is the word is pronounced with two syllables, not three. It's easy to have a small third syllable sneak in between no and bless.

On the other hand, as mispronunciations by commentators go, I can't help but think this one is tiny. If you want to stop commentators from adding additional syllables in, get him to stop pronouncing "lair" as "lai-yer" :p

Just to add, insisting on the original French pronunciation is stupid. There are tons of French words in English, but we use the received English pronunciation for them. So rather than linking to the French pronunciation, click on the little speaker here to get an English pronunciation.