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NoodleFish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa198 Posts
August 22 2011 23:54 GMT
#41
I started to play guitar when I was 15. Never put in as much time as I would have liked and so my skill level shows that.
But it's never too late to start learning. As long as you're dedicated and push yourself to learn more. I hear violin is more difficult that guitar, and it helps to have an ear for music. But if you keep at it you will improve yourself :D
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 00:29:14
August 23 2011 00:28 GMT
#42
Find a good teacher, practice according to his/her instructions and join the local high-school Orchestra if there is one
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
August 23 2011 01:39 GMT
#43
Always ALWAYS ALWAYS work on basics. It is unexplainable (yet awesome) how much better you sound when you've warmed up on slow passages and scales, and how much worse you get when you haven't after even a single day. You will not notice the improvement yourself (and probably won't be able to recognize it until you have decades of experience), but your teacher and other experts will. If, for some reason, there is a day when you simply do not have any time to practice, get up 20 minutes early and play some slow intervals and scale patterns. Your technique is like a fragile muscle, and not using it at all for even 24 hours can put you back weeks.


I want to both emphasize this a put my two cents of difference in. First of all, SCALES. Boring, but they make a HUGE difference in your playing ability. To be honest, I have no idea why, but i have yet to find someone who could play perfect scales that sucks at their instrument.

As for practicing. Don't ever take unconscious breaks, or "don't feel like it" breaks. But taking a planned couple of days of practice off can be hugely refreshing, and while it might take week for you to get completely back to where you were in muscle memory, you will probably learn new things a lot faster. Maybe some other people have different experiences, and theirs might be equally true for them. But for me, taking planned 2-3 day breaks every couple months are so refreshing. Like I said earlier, I'm taking my first cello "break" in over a year of practicing and making it through my first recital, and I am literally bursting at the seams itching to get back. Now, my previous experience with taking breaks was with piano, so maybe it'll be a bit rougher coming back from taking a few days off of the cello, but i know with piano it feels so great.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#44
If you are playing violin as a hobby, it's never too late to learn. Starting at age 14, you probably won't be a full time professional, but you can still join a minor orchestra. Violin is a high commitment instrument though. You will have to practice for years before you can play at a reasonable level. It's easy to get discouraged when you aren't making any music.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#45
For any instrument I've tried to learn if you truly dedicate the shit out of yourself to it for a year you can get damn near as good as you want at anything. So it's never too late, especially when you're older and 'bigger' i guess hands etc for instruments like that so you can do more complicated things. Like both for guitar and piano I picked them up at separate times and almost treated them like full time jobs (40+hours a week) and there isn't a piece on either instrument that I can't play with at least some competency. So if a mongoloid like myself can do it I have utter faith in you sir
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yasushii
Profile Joined April 2010
United States45 Posts
August 23 2011 03:44 GMT
#46
On August 23 2011 02:41 PenguinWithNuke wrote:
Ok, as someone who plays violin, I'll give you some advice:

First off, how far do you want to go with this? Are you just playing casually (like a guy who does only teamgames in SC), or do you want something more? If you want to do something more (like say, a concerto competition, or something like joining an orchestra and wanting to be the concertmaster), I can give you more advice on that.

If you're going to be very casual, only practicing a couple of hours per week, then I'd suggest getting a lower-end violin and bow. I think music stores sell stuff like that in a package (case, bow, violin) for a couple hundred bucks. It might be more, because you need a full-size violin and bow (you're not dwarf, correct?). They include rosin (necessary, start off with something cheap), and you also need a shoulder-rest IMO.

When you're starting off, here's something I STRONGLY recommend. There is no such thing as a fret on a violin, so you're going to have to learn everything from muscle memory. Get someone (a friend or a teacher who is good at violin) to help you find all the fingerings for first position. Get pieces of tape, and mark the basic fingerings. Here's a pic of what I mean. + Show Spoiler +
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If you really want to get good (or good enough so that you don't sound like crap), then practice every day for at least an hour. You'll get good in no time if you practice like this.

Another thing that I consider necessary is a good teacher. There is no substitute if you want to improve rapidly and have good technique. Make sure that you do get a good teacher who will teach you proper technique, because having good technique makes it soooo much easier to play well.

When you're starting off, I recommend the Suzuki Method books. It's good for starting, but after you improve, start doing other stuff. Because it gets boring.

Above all, make sure that you enjoy playing the violin. It's a beautiful instrument, and you can really express yourself.

PM me if you have any specific questions, atm, I'm kinda strapped for time.

My credentials: + Show Spoiler +
I've played violin for nearly ten years now, since I was seven or something (16 now). In the states, there is something called an "All-State" orchestra. You audition to be in it, and it's full of talented musicians. Also there is "All-New Englands" becaues I live in New ENgland. I've been in both (2 years in All-State and 1 in All New Englands). I should be concertmaster of my school orchestra next year, or sharing with one of my friends.




edit: (also because I have a potty mouth and you're 14)
Oh btw, forgot to mention. You're going to suck at the beginning. Really hard. But push on. You won't regret it. It'll take a week or so to stop sounding like absolute crap. Don't get discouraged Press on.


agree with pretty much everything that's said in this post as a fellow (former) violinist! i played from 10-17; so about 7 years. i started off with the tape markings like what he/she mentioned above -- really helps with learning the positions! i had private lessons and joined the orchestra during my second year of high school. the key is really practice, practice, practice -- what everyone has been saying. you may like it now, but afterwards, it's possible you might question whether or not you really, truly love it -- as i did. good luck!

(i remember when i was just starting out, i threw a hugggeeeeee tantrum lol i was just so frustrated.)
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 23 2011 03:48 GMT
#47
If you do decide to take up violin, feel free to post vids if you need any help or pointers. A lot of us are very experienced violin players.
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9165 Posts
August 23 2011 07:30 GMT
#48
I don't think it's ever too late to start learning a musical instrument, especially not if you are only fourteen.

I'd get someone to try and teach you how to play though. Self-taught violin does not sound like a painless proposition.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 23 2011 07:58 GMT
#49
practice. Learning is nothing without practice
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zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
August 23 2011 10:01 GMT
#50
its never too late, but make sure you get a teacher.

also, never have the pressure from parents drive you forward. ALWAYS have it by your own will or you will quit like me.
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