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iamamish
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 03:46:46
August 09 2011 03:45 GMT
#21
On August 09 2011 12:00 TehTemplar wrote:
I have the feeling the OP is trolling us.


heh heh heh.....but really i dont think thats possible....i might try that idea about balance racism though a twist on that idea....

oh and what snuggles said...that admins really do a good job and when there are instances of trolls they take care of it....as much as we tease them they are first class.....even hot bid and chill....:D
dont worry...thats halo- huk
Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
August 09 2011 05:26 GMT
#22
On August 08 2011 17:26 Gummy wrote:
There are no such things as "trolls" and your referring to good honest people as "trolls" indicates a certain intolerance toward differing viewpoints. This troubles me.

People are uniformly and universally honest and genuine on the internet. I think you should just learn to be more accepting of these different viewpoints and love your fellow man.


Troll Mastah Gummy, i've missed you
At the biggest upset of all of bw, Shanghai SPL finals 2011
Giwoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)431 Posts
August 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#23
On August 08 2011 17:09 Gummy wrote:
Hot_Bid would like to have a word with you, good sir.
+ Show Spoiler +
It would seem that Hot_Bid is both a troll and a great admin.



hot_bid <3
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
August 09 2011 05:52 GMT
#24
OP should check out /b/ -- that's the real bridge under which the trolls live.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 09 2011 06:19 GMT
#25
People think I'm a troll when I fervently hold a moral position... I hate that I'm expected to handle every argument like someone who wears a monocle.

Life is full of important things and when you defend a position you care about, "the Internet" frowns upon you. It's the whole "umad" culture which dictates that if you don't care, you autowin. It's easy for trash to call me a troll when I care.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 09 2011 06:35 GMT
#26
On August 08 2011 23:55 Chill wrote:
I barely notice any of your examples on TL, especially the last one.


Yeah, I strangely do not notice many of these examples :[]
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
August 09 2011 06:43 GMT
#27
I've seen a lot less trolls in TL than in other communities, actually. Here, when, they get too out of line, a mod slaps them pretty quickly.

They're usually actually somewhat funny, too.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 09 2011 06:48 GMT
#28
On August 09 2011 15:43 .Aar wrote:
I've seen a lot less trolls in TL than in other communities, actually. Here, when, they get too out of line, a mod slaps them pretty quickly.

They're usually actually somewhat funny, too.


HAHA yeah, I'll see something and go "PFFTTTTTT" or "EHEH", and almost go "awww" when the troll gets banned/temped.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Bagonad
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark173 Posts
August 09 2011 10:08 GMT
#29
Trolling is a art of saying something which another person feels is so wrong that he has to share his viewpoints very basicly.

It's incredibly easy to troll things like justin.tv chats, by going "lol gm na plat korea" in Destiny's chatroom when he was ladder locked in korea, because this will trigger 10 people to tell you ladder is locked and he's still fighting master players, ofcourse you can't do this anymore, but you usually get some reactions if you go balance whine.

There's 2 kind of trolls, i'll user balance whine as an example:

"infestoer so fcking imbalanced kil every terran unit n 2 fungals blizz neds to wake up n nerf that shit"

"Ever since the infestor buff, every graph has shown zerg dominating terrans in high levels, zergs were already winning most GSL's and then blizzard decides to buff them, zergs are fucking whiners and protoss and terran needs to step up and say something before every tournament is 100% zerg, so smart to make a unit which kills everything cheap with fungal and takes everything expensive with neural parasite"

Different kind of people will respond to different kind of trolls, ofcourse you have to take care not to sound too obvious, or people will discard you as a troll, the above examples are not terribly good, as usually you need to respond to something when trolling, and above all, trigger people to respond, remember dear trolls, the goal is to grab as much negative attention as possible.

If you want to troll teamliquid just write "wow mma new bonjwa" if he wins or something, or "holy shit mma for bonjaw trio with mvp & mc", it'll get some ol' sc1 folks riled up.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 09 2011 12:31 GMT
#30
Trolling is... given far too much attention on TL. There are almost more threads and posts about (and accusing people of trolling as a part of the "argument") it than there is actual trolling.

Let the mods handle it and let it go. -_-
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 09 2011 12:51 GMT
#31
On August 08 2011 17:17 AzTec wrote:
none of those people are trolls

terrible posters? yes.

trolls? no.

being stupid or annoying isn't trolling.

trolling is deliberately being an asshole in order to get a rise out of people.

all the types of posters you mentioned genuinely think they are helping in some way.

Being stupid and annoying is trolling though
you should probably look up trolling before making an absurd statement like that.

No joke
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 09 2011 13:39 GMT
#32
On August 09 2011 21:51 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 17:17 AzTec wrote:
none of those people are trolls

terrible posters? yes.

trolls? no.

being stupid or annoying isn't trolling.

trolling is deliberately being an asshole in order to get a rise out of people.

all the types of posters you mentioned genuinely think they are helping in some way.

Being stupid and annoying is trolling though
you should probably look up trolling before making an absurd statement like that.

No joke

Depends on intent. If you're genuinely stupid and annoying and not acting that way to fish for a response, you're not trolling.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 14:41:32
August 09 2011 14:24 GMT
#33
On August 09 2011 22:39 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 21:51 arb wrote:
On August 08 2011 17:17 AzTec wrote:
none of those people are trolls

terrible posters? yes.

trolls? no.

being stupid or annoying isn't trolling.

trolling is deliberately being an asshole in order to get a rise out of people.

all the types of posters you mentioned genuinely think they are helping in some way.

Being stupid and annoying is trolling though
you should probably look up trolling before making an absurd statement like that.

No joke

Depends on intent. If you're genuinely stupid and annoying and not acting that way to fish for a response, you're not trolling.

Intent doesnt even matter though

Id consider genuine stupid/annoying people some of the best trolls
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 09 2011 15:01 GMT
#34
QQ moar bro.
God Bless
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 09 2011 15:27 GMT
#35
On August 09 2011 23:24 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 22:39 Dfgj wrote:
On August 09 2011 21:51 arb wrote:
On August 08 2011 17:17 AzTec wrote:
none of those people are trolls

terrible posters? yes.

trolls? no.

being stupid or annoying isn't trolling.

trolling is deliberately being an asshole in order to get a rise out of people.

all the types of posters you mentioned genuinely think they are helping in some way.

Being stupid and annoying is trolling though
you should probably look up trolling before making an absurd statement like that.

No joke

Depends on intent. If you're genuinely stupid and annoying and not acting that way to fish for a response, you're not trolling.

Intent doesnt even matter though

Id consider genuine stupid/annoying people some of the best trolls

nono

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=130403

If you're not intentionally trying to 'catch' someone on your trollbait, you're not trolling. You're just being exasperating - hence why people often backpedal to 'LOL I WAS JUST TROLLING' after being called out for idiocy. It implies you're putting on an act to bait.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 15:50:25
August 09 2011 15:49 GMT
#36
On August 10 2011 00:27 Dfgj wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=130403

If you're not intentionally trying to 'catch' someone on your trollbait, you're not trolling. You're just being exasperating - hence why people often backpedal to 'LOL I WAS JUST TROLLING' after being called out for idiocy. It implies you're putting on an act to bait.


I thought of that post when I saw this one. Glad someone beat me to the punch!

On August 08 2011 16:50 iamamish wrote:
now these come in many shapes and sizes. there is your good old fashioned demeaning troll.
he sticks to the tried and true methods like saying you suck or dont have a life or whatever.


Doing something like this gets you banned pretty quick.

then there is the one liner troll. he'll deal out that sage advice such as..... scout....or.....macro. is it true? well yeah but does it help....NO!


Not a troll. "scout" and "macro" is sound advice, though admittedly they could go into more detail since the poster probably doesn't know how to practice this.

you have the troll troll.....this guy is the crusader of the weak and destroyer of any unwise enough to incure his wrath. he sees some troll being stupid and instead of leaving it to the mods, decides that it is his divine destiny to put that punk in his place. well-meaning, probably. the only problem is that the back and forth bm fest that ensues totally destroys the post and may even get it closed.


Since when is backseat moderating trolling?

my personal favorite is the random other game troll. this special breed of idoit pops into a starcraft site full of starcraft players just to say: "starcraft sucks go play halo" normally this only gets a temp ban or such, which i would say is too lenient for being that brainless but i guess someone needs to be merciful.


Banned. Next.

there is a sub category of troll that exists. they are called the search tool troll. whenever a question arises that they deem to cliche they bm about how the poster is dumb and needs to quit wasting everyone's time and search. they are kind of the elitist of the forum world. now dont get me wrong, if someone is asking a question like need help with what is a good mech build or something that is easily searchable, then by all means use the search. but most of the time these posts are made asking for help with specific replays and cant be answered by someone elses post. i personally dont see the reason why someone took the time to say they dont have to time to answer a question. now i should add that some are a little more clever saying they are putting up the answer in the form of a link to the search page. this one always makes me laugh... :D


Probably the closest thing to a troll you've posted here. If you're posting a help thread you get good advice and bad advice. This is bad advice. Ignore it.

In conclusion, the internet is full of a variety of people - trolls included. Most of what you're talking about isn't a troll so much as a /b/tard getting their shots in before getting banned. The closest thing to a troll I can think of are the people who give terrible advice in help threads, but other posters normally prove them wrong.



Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 09 2011 15:51 GMT
#37
Not all of his examples are invalid, there are definitely posters that try to counter-troll (or outright troll) poor posters or trolls to make their rage and idiocy visible to all. That's not backseat moderation, it's more like vigilante action.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
August 09 2011 15:52 GMT
#38
On August 09 2011 23:24 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 22:39 Dfgj wrote:
On August 09 2011 21:51 arb wrote:
On August 08 2011 17:17 AzTec wrote:
none of those people are trolls

terrible posters? yes.

trolls? no.

being stupid or annoying isn't trolling.

trolling is deliberately being an asshole in order to get a rise out of people.

all the types of posters you mentioned genuinely think they are helping in some way.

Being stupid and annoying is trolling though
you should probably look up trolling before making an absurd statement like that.

No joke

Depends on intent. If you're genuinely stupid and annoying and not acting that way to fish for a response, you're not trolling.

Intent doesnt even matter though


it absolutely does lol

being stupid and not realizing it doesn't make someone a troll
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 15:58:26
August 09 2011 15:53 GMT
#39
On August 10 2011 00:27 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 23:24 arb wrote:
On August 09 2011 22:39 Dfgj wrote:
On August 09 2011 21:51 arb wrote:
On August 08 2011 17:17 AzTec wrote:
none of those people are trolls

terrible posters? yes.

trolls? no.

being stupid or annoying isn't trolling.

trolling is deliberately being an asshole in order to get a rise out of people.

all the types of posters you mentioned genuinely think they are helping in some way.

Being stupid and annoying is trolling though
you should probably look up trolling before making an absurd statement like that.

No joke

Depends on intent. If you're genuinely stupid and annoying and not acting that way to fish for a response, you're not trolling.

Intent doesnt even matter though

Id consider genuine stupid/annoying people some of the best trolls

nono

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=130403

If you're not intentionally trying to 'catch' someone on your trollbait, you're not trolling. You're just being exasperating - hence why people often backpedal to 'LOL I WAS JUST TROLLING' after being called out for idiocy. It implies you're putting on an act to bait.

In the end though it doesnt even matter.

Trollings trolling, whether they try hard and get far, or arent trying and get far.
On August 10 2011 00:52 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 23:24 arb wrote:
On August 09 2011 22:39 Dfgj wrote:
On August 09 2011 21:51 arb wrote:
On August 08 2011 17:17 AzTec wrote:
none of those people are trolls

terrible posters? yes.

trolls? no.

being stupid or annoying isn't trolling.

trolling is deliberately being an asshole in order to get a rise out of people.

all the types of posters you mentioned genuinely think they are helping in some way.

Being stupid and annoying is trolling though
you should probably look up trolling before making an absurd statement like that.

No joke

Depends on intent. If you're genuinely stupid and annoying and not acting that way to fish for a response, you're not trolling.

Intent doesnt even matter though


it absolutely does lol

being stupid and not realizing it doesn't make someone a troll


I stand by my statement.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
August 09 2011 16:06 GMT
#40
how can you possibly be trolling you genuinely believe what you are saying and are not just saying something to get a rise out of people?

maybe they intersect at times, but the act of trolling is totally based on intent. Pretty much every single definition online disagrees with what you're saying
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