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Blue Flame Hellions, my new worst nightmare.
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SG_Ruukasu
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micronesia
United States24779 Posts
I'm not trying to say that there's no point in strategizing as someone playing in a bronze/silver tournament... just that you shouldn't approach this from an angle of finding a counter. Of course, feel free to use higher-level zerg players as a model for how to deal with it... maybe some people can recommend replays to you. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
It seems protoss gets off easy from the metagame, because for me TvT has become blue flame hellion wars. Believe me even though I'm trying to kill zergies like you with the same boxer drop, I feel your pain. | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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SG_Ruukasu
United States17 Posts
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SG_Ruukasu
United States17 Posts
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micronesia
United States24779 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 02 2011 10:48 ElevatedSC2 wrote: and I wouldn't even know what TvT would be like, I just know as Zerg, Blue Flame Hellions can send you to the proverbial "FrownTown" in a hurry :p That feeling you get when you see lines of drones roast like kabobs on a stick? Yeah I'm pretty used to it now too. | ||
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SG_Ruukasu
United States17 Posts
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SG_Ruukasu
United States17 Posts
On August 02 2011 10:52 Gamegene wrote: That feeling you get when you see lines of drones roast like kabobs on a stick? Yeah I'm pretty used to it now too. >_< that feeling hurts soooo much  | ||
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Baby_Seal
United States360 Posts
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GigaFlop
United States1146 Posts
In other news, tell Sympatico: "less arms" Also, I find hellions easy to deal with when I have burrowed banelings and/or roaches. I maek roach, roach good unit. Besides, even +1 armor makes roaches very resilient to marines. I love nothing more than seeing that green acid fly and disintegrate marines/hellions/other roaches/whatever I can kill. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
Then again, you don't have people like polt prime in MLG shifting the meta game with unique hidden marauders and other builds that people don't expect. | ||
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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Dice17
United States520 Posts
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
Lay a creep tumor with your first queen's 2nd round of energy. When it gets near a choke (walls, doodads, etc.) start narrowing the choke even more with 1-2 evo chamber(s) and a roach warren if you haven't already started it. --It's best to do a light roach opening in ZvT these days anyways, just to play it safe.-- Fill in the gap a bit more with 2 spine crawlers, and you should be set. A third queen (on 2 bases) will really help you out. A) you'll be able to spread more creep, B) it can help you defend vs hellions nicely, and C) it can also clog the choke. tl;dr You can sit on hatch tech for a while with a small roach count. Spread your creep ASAP so you can start making smaller chokes (particularly at your nat) with buildings + spines. Send ovies out to watch for drops into your main. | ||
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SG_Ruukasu
United States17 Posts
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Toysrme
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1) Quick roaches wipe the floor with most 1 rax, FE into 10'ish rax builds 2) Roaches vs Hellions in the lower leagues. isn't close if you can keep the roach count about even. hellions have crap dps. they can do pretty well as meat for tanks if you move them point blank in the engagement so you're splashing multiple units (vs attack moving them and they only hit one unit at their max range) In low leagues it doesn't matter what you do. Go see the thread where the guy just made macro stalkers & A-moved his opponents bases & went from bronze to diamond with only a couple losses. just do whatever it takes to keep your money low | ||
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SG_Ruukasu
United States17 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
On August 03 2011 03:09 ElevatedSC2 wrote: Yeah, Toysrme, from what I've been hearing from everyone, I just need to get a Roach Warren asap, and then get a few out, and I should be able to hold of most pressure, if I use them even remotely in the correct way, such as plugging a ramp, and spreading them out properly to keep them from getting behind me Spare queens are also quite good. Many terrans like to follow up with banshees and the like, and queens can also help with transfuses and increased creep spread. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On August 02 2011 10:44 Malgrif wrote: fucken hell i hate tvt now, everything is about Blue fucken flame fucken hellions on the ladder... WHAT THE FUCK KOREA Y U WRECK NA LADDER oh god yea. Even team games are filled with mass blue flame hellions now. Was playing 2v2 and every terran...OH LOOK 500000 Blue flame hellions. arhghghgh | ||
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SG_Ruukasu
United States17 Posts
On August 03 2011 03:27 Blazinghand wrote: Spare queens are also quite good. Many terrans like to follow up with banshees and the like, and queens can also help with transfuses and increased creep spread. Very true, I see pros block their ramps with 2 queens all the time, so I should keep that in the back of my mind. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
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