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+ Show Spoiler +Placed in blogs as to not upset rabid Boxer fans and potentially get them banned
Dear TL, I would like to voice some opinions.
I will have to admit - the Boxer bandwagon has become somewhat annoying, somewhat depressing. As an iconic figure, there is little to argue against his popularity. But what is popularity without the achievements to back it up? Indeed, he was a truly inspirational BW player. To this day, I feel like no Terran has matched Boxer's micro orientated playstyle of which I absolutely loved to watch and made BW a certain kind of special during that era.
But what really bugs me is that for many SC2 players who have never even heard of Boxer until last year, they do not have a real understanding of the player behind the name, aside from the nonstop substance-less hype that commentators of all sorts attribute to the man.
It depresses me because the accomplishments of other players - Nada and July - go greatly overlooked because with the above, people just don't know much about them. Statistically, Nada matches or beats Boxer on sheer BW performance. While you cannot make a strict comparison between Nada and Boxer, as their playstyles are wildly different, you simply cannot ignore the achievements of the player, a 6 time champion.
And as a member of the swarm, I have forever been inspired by July. 3 time champion. The man who made me love mutaling. A man who I look up to as a brethren of endless zerg aggression. A person I still try to find replays of for SC2.
But as players, I place far more respect into Nada than I would ever place for Boxer; even for SC2, Boxer's SC2 play hasn't even been that impressive, with more cheesy/gimmicky play than anything. Again, compared to Nada, Nada has essentially remained in Code S for the entirety of GSL and has consistently reached playoffs (a predominant Ro8 finisher).
I will say though, Boxer's recent MLG performance is one we have not seen from him in all of his SC2 career. It looks very promising and indeed, I will have to wait to see how far he gets in the upcoming GSL with his newfound playstyle.
But again, he has to prove he is a performer; respect is earned - not given. Thank you for reading.
 
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Boxer isn't just a player he is an ambassador for e-sports, along with Yellow. There is a reason every year those two were the two highest voted players for the All-stars. Boxer's accomplishments in-game don't really compare to NaDa or Flash or iloveoov but his accomplishments outside, what he has done for the sport itself, are far and away above others.
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Have you seen Boxer?
He's THE figure of E-sports. It's not about how many wins he has. It's about his personality and charisma.
He's the god damn emperor, after all.
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People don't respect him for his performance in tournaments, people respect him for what he's done for ESPORTS, and that's something everyone who believe in ESPORTS should respect. He's done a lot for the community, and deserves all the love he's getting.
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Indeed. He's more than just a player, more than just a Starleague champion. He's the biggest icon E-sports has ever had, a true legend and one of the reasons why E-sports took off the way it did.
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Boxer have done more for eSports than any other player, you can't just look at the amount of tournaments won and say "Why is everyone hyping Boxer instead of Nada? This is unfair".
Of course hes not the best SC2 player, but his fans wants him to be and supports him as he competes and tries to accomplish that.
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On August 02 2011 01:38 a176 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Placed in blogs as to not upset rabid Boxer fans and potentially get them banned But again, he has to prove he is a performer; respect is earned - not given. Thank you for reading.
he created SC pro gaming. so he is respected because without that there would not be a starcraft 2, blizzard only created starcraft 2 because korea had all the profit from starcraft 1.
lim yo hwan fighting.
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One of the reasons why Boxer has been so influential to the community is because Boxer pioneered the modern 'team' system that is seen in South Korea. When Boxer competed on the Orion team (years and years ago), they offered him a contract on the basis that he was the only one on the team. He refused and the importance of teams and Proleague has only increased since.
You can read more about it here: http://senseofstar.blogspot.com/2006/11/slayersboxer.html
Furthermore, Boxer's excellence came not from his technical ability which many of the 'great' players were associated with, but through his creativity and his large array of strategies. Boxer pioneered so many different strategies and drew people in to watch him simply because of his creativity.
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There is more to him than just being an iconic figure/ex-bonjwa.
Slayers Terrans are some of the best T in the world because they come up with builds that will revolutionize matchups - and I believe Boxer has a large role in that.
Him and Jessica has put a lot of effort into the team and they are rightfully rewarded with GSTL championships. Someone who dedicated his life to make esports better (founding TT1/ACE/Slayers) deserves the respect and attention.
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I will give you some ESPORTS bucks for having the balls to post this.
(PS: respect for a player doesn't just come from their play)
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i'm in the Boxer bandwagon (even tho I follow him since his WCG vs Elky on that "island" green map (not really an isle map but your main had no ramp), not only because of his play, but just because of his attitude and the aura he got. He's just a great man.
Yeah, he's not the best sc2 player, but he still qualified for the open seasons, made a ro4, it's not like he's a bottom tier player either. Boxer interacts a lot more with the community, has founded his team, that's why you hear more about him than about July or Nada.
edit : I don't find the game on TLPD, which makes me doubt my memory as I can't even find the map. The map was on an all green tileset, 4 mains at 12 3 6 9, the mains were on a small height plateau with no ramp, you had a nat on the clockwise side iirc and there were "holes" with expos between each mains too.
ha ! it's hall of valhalla of course http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/100_Hall_of_Valhalla
Seems there is no WCG games recorded on it, I was so sure it was an elky vs boxer game from an early WCG 
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You need to also note that Boxer created a team or no name GSTL double champions. All the players are now known.
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Accomplishments are generally one of the least things people look for to like a player. People look for players who are dedicated to the game and passionate about it, are really good, or are really unique/creative in their play. You can't blame anyone for liking someone because of that. Some people like Boxer really just in respect for what he has done for SCBW and that he has, at times,(especially at MLG) shown that he can play great games. He has before, one of my favorite series of the TSL was Boxer vs Sen. Basing who you root for based off of achievements is fine, but many people don't do that. Otherwise, Nestea, MVP, and MC would never have anyone rooting against them, but plenty of people do.
As for people not giving July and Nada credit for what they've done, both in BW and in SC2. I have to agree a bit, but they still do get more fans than many people in Code S. I root for July and Nada quite a bit, but Boxer just has something inspirational about him(at least to me) that makes me want him to win no matter what. I suppose many of the people who like him are just attracted to him because of that.
My respect is freely given to everyone, the only people who'll ever have to gain it are the ones who have lost it before.
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Because players like NaDa and July are less visible, and BoxeR is more myth and legend than man in the world of E-Sports.
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You don't understand... Boxer IS esports. The guy is like the original progamer.
If it wasn't for him, I'm seriously not sure if BW and SC2 would be near where they are today.
If you are familiar with the history of SC, you have no choice but to be freaking thankful for the existence of the human being named Lim Yo Hwan.... his SC2 skills are just a bonus and another excuse to yell his name with your entire lungs!
EDIT: it's kinda like if you were a devout Christian, but you said you respect St. Francis or St. Andrew more than Jesus Christ. It doesn't work that way...
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Boxer is one reason why e-sports even exist. Show goddamn respect to the emperor.
1 star blog post, you need to read up on how e-sports began. You sound pretty spoiled.
Boxer is more than just his gameplay. Without him persevering it could have much been harder for everyone else that followed.
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Back when BoxeR was the superstar player, the most accomplished, he refused sponsorships unless it included his entire teams and invested a lot of his own money into the proleague.
I think that alone is baller enough; He probably deserves more praise, not less.
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progaming as we know it today is not possible with boxer, so please if nothing else at least give him the respect he so deserves as pioneer.
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To say Boxer hasn't earned respect is the most ludicrous thing I've read today. It's not about his current ability as a player, it's about his history, past and current.
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