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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
June 21 2011 19:28 GMT
#41
On June 22 2011 04:26 AtreSamus wrote:
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On June 22 2011 04:21 Chill wrote:
I think women-only tournaments are great. I think the threads about them are not.


:/ thats a shame. As said before I didnt mean to make offense to anyone or any gender.

You didn't offend me. The conversation has been played out and you haven't really brought anything new to the discussion whatsoever. You've restarted a conversation that never reached a conclusion by starting is back at the beginning.
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Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 20:24:29
June 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#42
On June 22 2011 04:21 Chill wrote:
I think women-only tournaments are great. I think the threads about them are not.


^ This

I'd watch it if it were streamed!

Thanks to the campus starcraft club I've been exposed to a number of girl gamers, most of which could beat me without breaking a sweat. Emasculating? Little bit. Fun? You bet!

Though, I do find all the bleeding hearts in this thread a bit humorous. Come on people - perspective! If you're going to start crying about social justice make it about something that actually matters, like clean drinking water in third world countries. 100% gender equality in a video game? It feels rather petty that our entertainment means THIS much to us...
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
June 22 2011 04:05 GMT
#43
On June 22 2011 02:07 c.Deadly wrote:
There's nothing insulting or morally wrong about all-female SC2 tournaments. They're actually a fantastic idea and only help further the Starcraft and ESPORT community. There is currently a disproportionate representation of males:females in video games and ESPORTS, in the RTS genre especially, so female tournaments help facilitate more women becoming active in the competitive scene and in the community. This is especially helpful because there are many barriers to entry for women into competitive video games (sexism, awkward internet social hierarchy, etc).

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On June 21 2011 22:01 ninini wrote:
There's one major difference between males and females. You could point at statistics, but if 95% (or whatever) of the pro chess players are male, it can only mean that men are more driven, and thus reach further because of their hard work. I think you can prove this by looking at the lower levels. Back in school I remember beating girls in chess, but I also remember losing. I never noticed any difference between males and females, except that most of the really good players were guys. But these guys played in chess clubs so it was kind of obvious. I'm pretty sure it's the same thing in SC. If you let 50 complete newbs of both genders play against eachother, I think it would be even. But if you instead just introduced them to the game, and then told them that there would be a tournament in 3 months, then I'm positive that the guys would win by a huge margin.


I also want to point out that this is completely wrong - there is no difference in aptitude between men and women. Any differences that you observe through life experience is influenced entirely by societal expectations and our natural tendency to conform to those expectations.

And you know this for a fact? I showed why I believe that the genders are different. You just say I'm wrong, without really doing anything to disprove my theory. I think you do that because it's not socially accepted to say that men and women are different, so you don't want to question it.

I think that we're very similar, but also that we have specific differences. If you look at us on a biological level, there's a difference. If you look at how men change in behaviour when they go through puberty, you can clearly see that the hormones have an effect on us. It's the same for women. Why is it so far-fetched that a higher testosterone level would make men more driven and adventure-seeking? It's scientifically proven that our hormones have an effect on our brain, so there is obviously some differences between how we think and act. I'm not saying men are superior. I'm just saying we're different on some levels.

It takes years to become really good at something, and most of the brilliant ppl in this world were more or less seen as idiots before they reached that level. If you play guitar in your basement for 6 hours every single day, your parents won't say "that's great, son. Keep practicing!". No, they will tell you to get a "realistic" goal instead. In general, if you want to get really good at something, the only encouragement you'll get is from yourself.
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