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The ignorance in this thread is astounding, people can't even take 5 second to google if the shit they're posting is factually accurate.
Total War = Total war is a war in which a belligerent engages in the complete mobilization of all their available resources and population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_War
edit: Just read the rest of the second page, its good to see there are people who don't fall into this category.
ie. This has nothing to do with fake gging and backstabbing someone.
Fake gging is like the biggest dick move ever, there's something to learn from playing BW, and that's that the internet doesn't have to full of complete jackasses, just because the option is there, doesn't mean you have to take it. But hey, what goes around comes around.
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DarthXX: Who cares? If the comparison is absurd you don't need to google shit. Just use common sense. You can tell that people comparing war to a game aren't sane and quoting wiki every post ain't gonna make you look clever anyway.
Ravencruiser: Sorry if you thought I told you to leave the site, actually I was suggesting you stop discussing and leave the thread since I knew what would come and that you wouldn't like it. Obviously you're still one of us and I love you  It's just that I've been in the eSports for 10 years and I've always been a good sport and always wanted to spread this as much as I could, and when I see someone doing the exact oposite with no good reason a little piece of me dies inside. I realize that with the game (and TL) getting popular this will become the new mainstream, though.
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It's okay, now you learned. ^^
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Its still a cardinal sin.
Extremely bm.
I hope you learned your lesson.
Manner up.
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Saying gg and staying in the game for a while is annoying.
Saying gg, then talking about the game while still playing trying to win is kind of a dick move to be honest.
On June 09 2011 01:59 koreasilver wrote:
It's people like you that turned me into the cold untalkative person I am now whenever I play BW and SC2. The most I ever say in conversation, outside of friendly games, is "hi", "glhf", and "gg". I only stop playing for a split second to respond to my opponent's gg and resume macroing because of idiots like you.
Same for me. 
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On June 09 2011 21:50 SnowFantasy wrote:Saying gg and staying in the game for a while is annoying. Saying gg, then talking about the game while still playing trying to win is kind of a dick move to be honest. Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:59 koreasilver wrote:
It's people like you that turned me into the cold untalkative person I am now whenever I play BW and SC2. The most I ever say in conversation, outside of friendly games, is "hi", "glhf", and "gg". I only stop playing for a split second to respond to my opponent's gg and resume macroing because of idiots like you. Same for me.
I still like to chat in the beginning of the matches with some friendly banter or talk about how annoying ZvZ is, but i don't take the opponents gg that serious anymore. If he gg's and talks, i still fight at 100% (but still talk to the opponent, if he wastes APM, i can do so, too). The game is won when the opponent leaves, not a single second earlier.
There are too many idiots out there, getting angry about them just makes you depressed, so it's better to assume the opponent is not an idiot and be friendly, but still fight as if he is one.
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It's not something I'd do, but I'm not against someone who chooses.
You can preach chivalry and honour and being a gentleman and all these great superficial characteristics because you grew up riding a horse while wearing shiny armor, but the reality is your just another anonymous online gamer in a setting deemed immature by almost everyone. Both sides of this argument have people with humorous standpoints in my opinion. On one end, you have people claiming a lack of morals over an in-game internet chatroom, and on the other you have a comparison to total war with references from WW2. Justify it however you'd like, that's the reality of it. There are probably many reading laughing at you both.
This thread really is something. The best part is the almighty e-hammers are in on the fun too.
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On June 09 2011 22:33 Horrde wrote:
It's not something I'd do, but I'm not against someone who chooses.
You can preach chivalry and honour and being a gentleman and all these great superficial characteristics because you grew up riding a horse while wearing shiny armor, but the reality is your just another anonymous online gamer in a setting deemed immature by almost everyone. Both sides of this argument have people with humorous standpoints in my opinion. On one end, you have people claiming a lack of morals over an in-game internet chatroom, and on the other you have a comparison to total war with references from WW2. Justify it however you'd like, that's the reality of it. There are probably many reading laughing at you both.
This thread really is something. The best part is the almighty e-hammers are in on the fun too. I take starcraft pretty seriously. Anyone else?
I don't care if the people reading are laughing either.
Its more than a game mate. Morals apply everywhere anyways..
I actually can't determine the point of your post other than to bait. And call out the mods?
Manner is important.
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On June 09 2011 22:33 Horrde wrote:
It's not something I'd do, but I'm not against someone who chooses.
You can preach chivalry and honour and being a gentleman and all these great superficial characteristics because you grew up riding a horse while wearing shiny armor, but the reality is your just another anonymous online gamer in a setting deemed immature by almost everyone. Both sides of this argument have people with humorous standpoints in my opinion. On one end, you have people claiming a lack of morals over an in-game internet chatroom, and on the other you have a comparison to total war with references from WW2. Justify it however you'd like, that's the reality of it. There are probably many reading laughing at you both.
This thread really is something. The best part is the almighty e-hammers are in on the fun too.
So you're saying since it is a setting deemed immature by almost everyone we should just confirm what they're saying by continuing to be dicks to each other?
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I think the fake GG is a viable strategy. It's unethical, but it's viable.
It's ethical to deceive your opponents in other ways as well- sending empty medivacs or speed ovies.
Is it ethical to chat to your opponent while cheesing?
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On June 09 2011 23:13 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 22:33 Horrde wrote:
It's not something I'd do, but I'm not against someone who chooses.
You can preach chivalry and honour and being a gentleman and all these great superficial characteristics because you grew up riding a horse while wearing shiny armor, but the reality is your just another anonymous online gamer in a setting deemed immature by almost everyone. Both sides of this argument have people with humorous standpoints in my opinion. On one end, you have people claiming a lack of morals over an in-game internet chatroom, and on the other you have a comparison to total war with references from WW2. Justify it however you'd like, that's the reality of it. There are probably many reading laughing at you both.
This thread really is something. The best part is the almighty e-hammers are in on the fun too. I take starcraft pretty seriously. Anyone else? I don't care if the people reading are laughing either. Its more than a game mate. Morals apply everywhere anyways.. I actually can't determine the point of your post other than to bait. And call out the mods? Manner is important.
What things that are unethical in life are unethical in the game? It's a good question.
-Misleading
-Misdirection
-Cheating
-Ab/using race strengths
-Ab/using race weaknesses
-Delaying-pausing.
-Lying in the chat (I have lots of marines, I'm going banshees -siege tank, marauder show up).
-Not taking things seriously at all.
-Toying with a weaker opponent.
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Well, this discussion is going no where... I think it is time for-
![[image loading]](http://www.esportsfrance.com/images/funky_krok/logo_kespa.jpg)
*epic fanfare smackdown*
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On June 09 2011 23:13 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 22:33 Horrde wrote:
It's not something I'd do, but I'm not against someone who chooses.
You can preach chivalry and honour and being a gentleman and all these great superficial characteristics because you grew up riding a horse while wearing shiny armor, but the reality is your just another anonymous online gamer in a setting deemed immature by almost everyone. Both sides of this argument have people with humorous standpoints in my opinion. On one end, you have people claiming a lack of morals over an in-game internet chatroom, and on the other you have a comparison to total war with references from WW2. Justify it however you'd like, that's the reality of it. There are probably many reading laughing at you both.
This thread really is something. The best part is the almighty e-hammers are in on the fun too. I take starcraft pretty seriously. Anyone else? I don't care if the people reading are laughing either. Its more than a game mate. Morals apply everywhere anyways.. I actually can't determine the point of your post other than to bait. And call out the mods? Manner is important.
Okay, you didn't understand my point. And just what part of that is my problem?
I'll tell what my point wasn't meant to do: it wasn't meant to bait you to reply and state that you don't understand in hopes that I would reply with a post to enlighten you on where you failed to determine the point of my previous post. I guess I just did, well sort of.
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On June 10 2011 00:37 bobwhiz wrote:
I think the fake GG is a viable strategy. It's unethical, but it's viable.
It's ethical to deceive your opponents in other ways as well- sending empty medivacs or speed ovies.
Is it ethical to chat to your opponent while cheesing?
Is it ethical to maphack when you opponent assumes you're both playing on a level field? You could drag that logic anywhere.
There are standard conventions for competitive play, and OP breaks a big one - gg means you're done.
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