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platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 23 2011 10:04 GMT
#1
So I'm a Canadian with a Hungarian stepdad and a Canadian mom, studying in England right now.

My visa for the UK expires soon. Very soon.

I want to live in Amsterdam with absolutely no dutch experience. Quickly using Pimsler to learn as much dutch as possible.

What should I do?


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Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 10:23:06
May 23 2011 10:21 GMT
#2
Neuken in de keuken.

Edit: Neuken, not noeken and keuken instead of koeken

Only thing I know in dutch.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
May 23 2011 10:21 GMT
#3
you should + Show Spoiler +
Quickly learn as much dutch as possible using Pimsler.

or what are you asking? look for a place you can afford and get a visa? ^^
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 23 2011 10:25 GMT
#4
On May 23 2011 19:21 blubbdavid wrote:
Neuken in de keuken.

Edit: Neuken, not noeken and keuken instead of koeken

Only thing I know in dutch.

Explain please.
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 23 2011 10:29 GMT
#5
Make less blogs spend more time preparing for situations like Visas running out far more in advance.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 10:32:31
May 23 2011 10:32 GMT
#6
On May 23 2011 19:25 platorepublic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 19:21 blubbdavid wrote:
Neuken in de keuken.

Edit: Neuken, not noeken and keuken instead of koeken

Only thing I know in dutch.

Explain please.


having sex in the kitchen, only it rimes in Dutch.
WriterXiao8~~
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 23 2011 10:36 GMT
#7
On May 23 2011 19:29 Murderotica wrote:
Make less blogs spend more time preparing for situations like Visas running out far more in advance.

Uh like how?
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
May 23 2011 10:40 GMT
#8
Do you have a Hungary passport? I assume not. You should probably go to the Canadian embassy (it's at Grosvenor Square in London I think) or maybe the Dutch embassy and talk about your options there.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 23 2011 10:40 GMT
#9
On May 23 2011 19:36 platorepublic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 19:29 Murderotica wrote:
Make less blogs spend more time preparing for situations like Visas running out far more in advance.

Uh like how?

Correct me if I'm mistaken but Visas have expiration dates no? Like 1 year, 2 year, 5 year... Depending on what kind you have. That should give you plenty of time to plan where to move to. Your biggest problem now is reasonably affordable housing, networking, absolute lack of knowledge of the area you are planning to move to, language barrier... Many many issues that could have been solved far ahead of time.

Not making blogs should be a no-brainer though so it's not all bad news!
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 23 2011 10:44 GMT
#10
Ok to be honest, I have until October till my Visa expires in the UK.
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 23 2011 10:49 GMT
#11
Lol. Then I guess you aren't as screwed. I was imagining like an end-of-the-week scenario. Booking a flight ASAP for cheaper price would be a good idea if you are planning to do that. Call hotels/hostels in the areas you are interested in moving to asking them what the locale is like - accessibility of necessities, urban/suburban/rural, economic status of the area. Use Google maps to have a look for yourself. Get someone to help you with contacting landlords in the area you decide upon using yellow pages/google search.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 23 2011 10:57 GMT
#12
Thanks. I am quite familiar with Amsterdam and Paris.

I know a bit of french, and learning dutch right now.

Don't know what kind of work I want to do yet. Money is not too much of a problem (yet).

I just need to decide what kind of work I want: anything from janitor to manager of self-owned company. And where to live.
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 11:03:44
May 23 2011 11:01 GMT
#13
My friend lived in Amsterdam for a few months and I have another friend living there at the moment, neither of them speak any Dutch so you'll be fine on that front, the majority of people there speak English.

My friend worked at the Amsterdam Vodka Museum and the other works at the Hard Rock Cafe, might wanna check them out.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
May 23 2011 11:02 GMT
#14
On May 23 2011 19:57 platorepublic wrote:
Thanks. I am quite familiar with Amsterdam and Paris.

I know a bit of french, and learning dutch right now.

Don't know what kind of work I want to do yet. Money is not too much of a problem (yet).

I just need to decide what kind of work I want: anything from janitor to manager of self-owned company. And where to live.

Should definitely check jobs before you leave too, sending resumes is ezpz and it is crucial that you have at least a few interviews waiting for you because the (yet) will turn into an (is) very quickly when you move to a new place.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 23 2011 11:07 GMT
#15
Thanks for the really good tips, Murderotica ^^

KEEP THEM COMING.
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:01:24
May 23 2011 11:54 GMT
#16
Generally speaking here:

- Learning dutch isn't neccessary at all for finding a job in Amsterdam, next to that dutch is a fairly complicated language and you won't be able to learn enough to speak at an acceptable level in a work environment where the speaking language is dutch (past minimum wage service jobs that is). This limits you pretty much to 'touristy' work (bars/restaurants) and if you have experience (or fake it) it helps a lot. If you're looking for a long term job, you need to find a job in a touristy industry (schiphol, amsterdam centre).

- I'm unclear as to how long you expect to stay in Amsterdam, but in order to work/stay/live here for a longer period of time, you're going to need a visa also. Keep it mind that your current student visa might exclude the option to apply for a new EU visa straight away, but you'd have to check that yourself.

- If you really want to live in amsterdam for several years, find a job in the relevant field you studied in (going to require a working visa for sure). Depending on what you studied, that's either pretty easy or nearly impossible. Amsterdam is a relatively expensive city when it comes to rent, and trying to live there on a minimum wage (which is what you're looking at realisticly) can be fun for a while, but I wouldn't want to do it longterm.

- Renting an appartment requires paperwork if you want to do it legally. Again, visa required or get ripped off.

So:

- Decide how long you want to stay.
- Try and obtain a working visa (this part is _not_ easy)

After that, you should look for an appartment/jobs, before it's pointless to even look. Not having a visa disqualifies you for most jobs/appartments posted on the web.
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 23 2011 12:06 GMT
#17
- I want to stay for good.
- So I would put some effort into getting a working visa. Any tips for obtaining that is greatly appreciated.

I don't want to do hard work. I want to get a relaxing job with little or no experience at all.

The only thing that has going for me is that I am smart and intelligent.
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:25:20
May 23 2011 12:24 GMT
#18
You sound so damn lazy and conceited lol wow. To get a decent job that ISN'T hard work you need experience, if only to have references in the field. A lot of the time you have to start from the bottom and work your way up. Only idiots think they are wise, it's the wise that are more likely to think they are idiots because they see the full spectrum and how far away from the pinnacle they are. You saying you're "smart" is based on what, exactly? The contrast between you and what you perceive to be the intelligence of everyone around you? Or maybe standardized test scores/a typical college degree? Rofl.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:31:33
May 23 2011 12:29 GMT
#19
On May 23 2011 21:06 platorepublic wrote:
- I want to stay for good.
- So I would put some effort into getting a working visa. Any tips for obtaining that is greatly appreciated.

I don't want to do hard work. I want to get a relaxing job with little or no experience at all.

The only thing that has going for me is that I am smart and intelligent.


Right.

Permanent stay is near impossible to obtain for 'low level' jobs. You will not be able to obtain a permanent stay visa for low-level service jobs. Permanent stay is usually only granted to people that have a decent education and a mid to high level job waiting for them. If you have neither, you won't be able to obtain a permanent stay permit. If you want to do it legally, you have very little chance.

If you want to do it the legal way: Don't apply for a permanent stay permit right away. Apply for a work permit, and try to get it extended every year. Once you hit 3 years, you're usually entitled to a permanent stay permit. Work permits aren't easy to come by either tho, seeing how your employer will have to prove that the job couldn't be filled by a dutch national (doesn't work out very well for minimum wage jobs).

Option 2: Illegally, which is quite possible. Come over on a temporary work visa (or without one alltogether), find a low level job, and just don't leave. It's doable, and most people will manage to drag it out for quite a long time. Find a decent job, work unregistered, same for housing. Realisticly tho, it's not a situation you can make a life out of.

I take it you only have canadian nationality? Neither of your biological parents have dual citizenship or something?
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 23 2011 12:33 GMT
#20
I only have a canadian passport.
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
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