EPTMy visa for the UK expires soon. Very soon.
I want to live in Amsterdam with absolutely no dutch experience. Quickly using Pimsler to learn as much dutch as possible.
What should I do?
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
My visa for the UK expires soon. Very soon. I want to live in Amsterdam with absolutely no dutch experience. Quickly using Pimsler to learn as much dutch as possible. What should I do? | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
Edit: Neuken, not noeken and keuken instead of koeken Only thing I know in dutch. | ||
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
Quickly learn as much dutch as possible using Pimsler. or what are you asking? look for a place you can afford and get a visa? ^^ | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 23 2011 19:21 blubbdavid wrote: Neuken in de keuken. Edit: Neuken, not noeken and keuken instead of koeken Only thing I know in dutch. Explain please. | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
having sex in the kitchen, only it rimes in Dutch. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 23 2011 19:29 Murderotica wrote: Make less blogs spend more time preparing for situations like Visas running out far more in advance. Uh like how? | ||
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drag_
England425 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
Correct me if I'm mistaken but Visas have expiration dates no? Like 1 year, 2 year, 5 year... Depending on what kind you have. That should give you plenty of time to plan where to move to. Your biggest problem now is reasonably affordable housing, networking, absolute lack of knowledge of the area you are planning to move to, language barrier... Many many issues that could have been solved far ahead of time. Not making blogs should be a no-brainer though so it's not all bad news! | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
I know a bit of french, and learning dutch right now. Don't know what kind of work I want to do yet. Money is not too much of a problem (yet). I just need to decide what kind of work I want: anything from janitor to manager of self-owned company. And where to live. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
My friend worked at the Amsterdam Vodka Museum and the other works at the Hard Rock Cafe, might wanna check them out. | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On May 23 2011 19:57 platorepublic wrote: Thanks. I am quite familiar with Amsterdam and Paris. I know a bit of french, and learning dutch right now. Don't know what kind of work I want to do yet. Money is not too much of a problem (yet). I just need to decide what kind of work I want: anything from janitor to manager of self-owned company. And where to live. Should definitely check jobs before you leave too, sending resumes is ezpz and it is crucial that you have at least a few interviews waiting for you because the (yet) will turn into an (is) very quickly when you move to a new place. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
KEEP THEM COMING.  | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
- Learning dutch isn't neccessary at all for finding a job in Amsterdam, next to that dutch is a fairly complicated language and you won't be able to learn enough to speak at an acceptable level in a work environment where the speaking language is dutch (past minimum wage service jobs that is). This limits you pretty much to 'touristy' work (bars/restaurants) and if you have experience (or fake it) it helps a lot. If you're looking for a long term job, you need to find a job in a touristy industry (schiphol, amsterdam centre). - I'm unclear as to how long you expect to stay in Amsterdam, but in order to work/stay/live here for a longer period of time, you're going to need a visa also. Keep it mind that your current student visa might exclude the option to apply for a new EU visa straight away, but you'd have to check that yourself. - If you really want to live in amsterdam for several years, find a job in the relevant field you studied in (going to require a working visa for sure). Depending on what you studied, that's either pretty easy or nearly impossible. Amsterdam is a relatively expensive city when it comes to rent, and trying to live there on a minimum wage (which is what you're looking at realisticly) can be fun for a while, but I wouldn't want to do it longterm. - Renting an appartment requires paperwork if you want to do it legally. Again, visa required or get ripped off. So: - Decide how long you want to stay. - Try and obtain a working visa (this part is _not_ easy) After that, you should look for an appartment/jobs, before it's pointless to even look. Not having a visa disqualifies you for most jobs/appartments posted on the web. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
- So I would put some effort into getting a working visa. Any tips for obtaining that is greatly appreciated. I don't want to do hard work. I want to get a relaxing job with little or no experience at all. The only thing that has going for me is that I am smart and intelligent. | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On May 23 2011 21:06 platorepublic wrote: - I want to stay for good. - So I would put some effort into getting a working visa. Any tips for obtaining that is greatly appreciated. I don't want to do hard work. I want to get a relaxing job with little or no experience at all. The only thing that has going for me is that I am smart and intelligent. Right. Permanent stay is near impossible to obtain for 'low level' jobs. You will not be able to obtain a permanent stay visa for low-level service jobs. Permanent stay is usually only granted to people that have a decent education and a mid to high level job waiting for them. If you have neither, you won't be able to obtain a permanent stay permit. If you want to do it legally, you have very little chance. If you want to do it the legal way: Don't apply for a permanent stay permit right away. Apply for a work permit, and try to get it extended every year. Once you hit 3 years, you're usually entitled to a permanent stay permit. Work permits aren't easy to come by either tho, seeing how your employer will have to prove that the job couldn't be filled by a dutch national (doesn't work out very well for minimum wage jobs). Option 2: Illegally, which is quite possible. Come over on a temporary work visa (or without one alltogether), find a low level job, and just don't leave. It's doable, and most people will manage to drag it out for quite a long time. Find a decent job, work unregistered, same for housing. Realisticly tho, it's not a situation you can make a life out of. I take it you only have canadian nationality? Neither of your biological parents have dual citizenship or something? | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
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Thrill
2599 Posts
In my opinion it would probably be smarter to accept a London job though and work your way from there. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On May 23 2011 22:11 platorepublic wrote: I'm at Oxford. But I'm turned off by people who hire just because I'm from Oxford. Get over yourself. The practical benefit of a good education is a good job. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
I don't think I had a good education to be honest. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
Good luck, Plato! I hope you make it big in Amsterdam. Also, Fana is a qtpie. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
Thanks, Aeres from US. | ||
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Thrill
2599 Posts
On May 23 2011 22:11 platorepublic wrote: I'm at Oxford. But I'm turned off by people who hire just because I'm from Oxford. I'm confused. You're willing to take a janitor job but not a position your education (not your birthright) has offered you? Even if it means a stepping stone towards your (apparent) dream of a life in Amsterdam? You'll need a European passport and if the requirement for that is three years of employment - that should be an easy decision. Don't let your pride (or unwillingness to accept how the world works) stand in the way of your dreams. Also let's face it - they're not hiring you 'cause you're part of some 'elite club', successful students at high profile universities are typically able to absorb and compress immense bodies of information at a quick pace; that's what presumptive employers are looking fore. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On May 23 2011 21:06 platorepublic wrote: - I want to stay for good. - So I would put some effort into getting a working visa. Any tips for obtaining that is greatly appreciated. I don't want to do hard work. I want to get a relaxing job with little or no experience at all. The only thing that has going for me is that I am smart and intelligent. If you were so smart and intelligent you wouldn't need to make this blog. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On May 23 2011 19:04 platorepublic wrote: My visa for the UK expires soon. Very soon. What should I do? get a mastercard | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32149 Posts
On May 24 2011 01:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote: If you were so smart and intelligent you wouldn't need to make this blog. seriously, and you want to live in one of the most expensive cities in Europe... brilliant planning | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
Hehehehehe, I have one. | ||
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Damian
Germany335 Posts
So what you can do is either 1.) Go to the Netherlands without a visa and try to find a job there. Once you found one, you have to go to the local alien authority and apply for a residence permit (Edit: Not entirely sure if it is even possibly in the Netherlands) OR 2.) you go to the Dutch embassy in London and obtain a visa which will allow you to work right away (and can be easily transformed into a residence permit once you are there). To do that, you should inform yourself about the requirements at their homepage. I would strongly recommend the second option as it will allow you to start to work right away and you can find out, if you even have the possibility to get a work permit before you go to Amsterdam. I wouldn't recommend ding anything illegal (like working without a work permit) as it can result into a ban from ALL Schengen countries (the ban is unlimited in time, unless you apply for it to be limited which still results in 1-5 years of ban). So go to their homepage at http://www.dutchembassyuk.org/consular/index.php?i=307 | ||
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
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