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Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
May 18 2011 08:25 GMT
#1
Hello everyone, just wanted to make this blog post to both think about how I'm doing in SC2 right now and to help those who are also looking for ways to break their limits into improving. About 3 months ago I have created this thread in strategy forums as a guide (actually it would have belonged here better, but I didn't really know how to create a blog post back then)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189601

Basically I talk about my experiences of playing SC2 so and so on and what made me improving was the mindset of "I suck, so I better try to play better" and that my race-hopping allowed me to see the multiple sides of the game from different angles. Although I never played at Masters level with any of three races, at the moment I feel like I'm getting close to a promotion to Diamond, and that means I'm just one step away from Masters league. And this time, I believe I can do it.

There are some things that have improved tremendously over past month that makes me think in this way. If you check that blog post above, one thing you'll notice is me complaining about TvZ. I used to lose to just about anyone, no matter how worse they were than me. But, I didn't know how to make it right. There is one turning point for me to understand that:

Boxer v. Sen in TSL3. That match opened my eyes. That match showed me how to beat a Zerg. Denying or pressuring a third when you can is the best way to do that. That game showed the importance of spreading marines at tank contains and in general. That game showed me that you can push with 3 Tanks, 25 marines and wreak havoc. That game showed me that I don't have to turtle!

It took a while for it to stuck in with me though. After I noticed that I kind of knew what to do, I noticed something: I didn't have the execution fr it. But I thought "Well, time will fix that, I should just try to imitate what the pros do."

After a while, I noticed other reasons on why I lost every TvZ: Engagements and Openings. While going through Youtube videos, I noticed this 1 rax 2 fact. blue flame helion into expand build. There was something great about this: Helions allowed for map control+harrassment, and I could expand behind that. Even better, This allowed me to make tanks quickly when I wanted, which opens up the way to Marine/Tank. As I followed this logic, wins started to happen. But, there was another thing that I needed to improve: How to engage

In past, when I sieged my tanks near a Zerg's third, I never cleared creep tumors. This, I noticed, helps a ton. Another thing was that you don't need to box every marine to attack a hatch. I noticed that if I spread my marines around the tanks to protect them from mutas (and banelings) I could just stim 8-10 marines to attack the hatch and retreat when ling/bling come. This was such a subtle detail and something that seems so unimportant, but it makes a world's difference. If you box all marines and attack move, mutas pick the tanks, and it gets really hard to trade efficiently with Zerg. Not so much with everything well spread.

I noticed that what allowed for my improvement past month wasn't big huge details, but small ones, like stimming a lone marine to check for expansions. This isn't huge when compared to the whole Starcraft 2 gameplay, but what it really means is that "This is a really cheap and easy alternative to a scan when the way is not obstructed." These are some details that I have never thought important before. But as I watch tourneys and streams, I noticed some of these things that really allowed the players to gain big advantage. This allowed me to see their importance.

At the moment, I am finally getting matched to players from diamond, which means the results also indicate that I've been improving a lot. Before the ladder reset, I had something like 15 loss streak and did not care about it and felt really unhappy. But lately, I felt like some switch turned on and allowed me to understand the game. Interesting part is that, most of this happened as I watched the streams and tournaments instead of playing, since I felt really desperate. But anyway, thanks for reading this far, and I hope this will help you on your way to improvement.

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"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
May 18 2011 12:37 GMT
#2
Don't forget macro, the biggest thing.
IVFearless
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States165 Posts
May 18 2011 12:51 GMT
#3
Its awesome that you're getting better! Congrats man. That point were you finally realize that you are making progress is one of the best feelings in the world.

I really like your point about not engaging on creep, but rather being active about reducing it. Not only does that slow down your opponent's army but it puts a lot of mental pressure on them as they lose vision of your army quickly.

Do you normally scan or use a raven? Also, do you move your whole army in to take out creep tumors as fast as possible or do you use small groups of marines that are moving in advance of your army?
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
May 18 2011 13:04 GMT
#4
gratz on improving your play, but Diamond is no picnic. You will struggle more on your trip through Diamond than you did through gold and platinum combined. Diamond punishes little mistakes more than gold and more than platinum. Comebacks are harder to pull off, and the competition is tough. It will not be easy.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
May 18 2011 13:14 GMT
#5
On May 18 2011 21:51 IV.Fearless wrote:
Its awesome that you're getting better! Congrats man. That point were you finally realize that you are making progress is one of the best feelings in the world.

I really like your point about not engaging on creep, but rather being active about reducing it. Not only does that slow down your opponent's army but it puts a lot of mental pressure on them as they lose vision of your army quickly.

Do you normally scan or use a raven? Also, do you move your whole army in to take out creep tumors as fast as possible or do you use small groups of marines that are moving in advance of your army?


I use something like 5-6 marines, stim them forward and scan to pick the tumors.

About macro, I forgot to mention it in the thread but I have gotten also very good with my macro. Most importantly, my multitasking. I can now send my army somewhere, go back to my base, do my thing, depots upgrades buildings etc, and all the while doing that, check whats happening to my through the minimap to react if something bad happens. This improved my macro a ton.

Also, I've made it to Diamond 5 mnths ago as Zerg when there was n Masters league (I was still low diamond, but still I made it there) And before that, I switched to Zerg about when I started to get match to Diamond players as Protoss. I have about 180 wins as Zerg, 165-ish as P and at the moment 170 or so as T.

"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
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