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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 09:16:03
May 05 2011 21:58 GMT
#1
--update--

OK update.

I went to see my proffessor, and the level of idiocy is astounding to me. FIrst of all, he didnt set the grade, someone else independant did so he cant do squat about it. Second is the way it was judged. It was judged as a whole, and my contribution significantly drove the entire projects grade up, it was the best thing about it all by far he said(he even knew who i was right at the start when i entered the room and said i wanted to complain about a grade, figures) so he was on my side here, sorta. The individual part he explained, was pretty much only to drag someone down in grades if they for example hadn´t done so much work on the entire thing. And while my contribution drove the entire project up, it couldn ´t bring me up personally(due to the "system" and the way it was judged he said).

I asked then what was all this fuzz about "individual grades" and he yet again said that it was just to drag people down. He gave som examples that had i for instance done absolutely nothing, nill, nada of the other parts of the project then maybe that would´ve helped my cause but again it wouldn´t since everyone was supposed to do a lil of everything(i did like 5% of the animations). So in other words, my hard effort could only drag the project up, not my own grade. While the work of the other people could drag me down personally...(and it did)

And in order to write a formal complaint, i have to get the entire group to complain. I cannot do it alone since its a group assignment(again why then state youre gonna give individual grades based on performance?) and while he told me i should just try and do that, since he felt sorry for me, he said that it would probably just be judged the exact same way yet again.

I am just... dumbfound and angry. Had i known this i would´ve pushed my group members alot or done the thing myself. Im taking this thing one step higher on the power ladder so to say and see where that takes me, probably to the same bullshit answers. Shit im angry, wasted so much time and work and even let another course suffer a bit since i figured i had a shot at a really good grade in this one.

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Hi TL, today i got the result from an exam assignment i worked my ass off for, and i am pissed. The assignment was for a introductionary class to flash programing, called "Gamepograming for flash" and it assumed people only had the very basic knowledge in programing such as knowing what a function is and what it does etc. It was a group assignment but we were supposed to recieve individual grades(To clarify you were graded after what YOU did, if i did 100% coding id be judged by the code, if i did 100% graphics id be judged by the graphics), this assignment is 100% of the grade for the class, its college level.

Of the workload in the group i did pretty much all programing and my two partners did the graphical aspect, not that i mind it but the work i put in was probably 5x more then what my group partners put in, they are cool guys so im not raging at them or anything - its how we divided it and i didnt mind it.

So the results come in, fairly quickly mind you, and my two group buddies tells me they both got D's, which didnt surprise me all that much, the game could've looked alot better and i think they know it too, they hated the class and just wanted to pass it i think. So at this time i figure i have maybe a B, but at the very least a C. Since i was pretty proud about the code and i had a Master grade student look it over before i handed it in and he said it looked pretty sweet compared to the requirements for the class it was fairly advanced. So i login to my student webpage, and i've recieved a D. A freaking D, the same grade my two group buddies got and i did 5x the work, and the code looks good.

The code(programing stuff here, if u dont know this, just skip this part)
The other games i looked at had all code in one file down in the flash timeline. My coding was object oriented with classes for major elements such as enemies, weapons, sound and a main class for most functions. It had "methoding" or however you call it, and it was fairly clean and adaptable. I worked on this pretty much all semester, im comparisment i got a D on a PHP programing exam last year which i studied for a grand total of one week, and before that week i knew nothing about programing or PHP. So i half assed that majorly, so i didnt really mind the D. I also dont mind showing the code if anyone wants to judge it a bit. So i work my ass off, get really satisified with the code and get a freaking D, same grade my group mates got mind you, vs i learn PHP programing in one week and get a D...

Code here for anyone that wants to take a look, this is the main class:
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This isn't "superadvanced" by any means, but for a sorta beginners course of flash i'd say its pretty good, at least a C, but please tell me waht u think. THis is the main class btw, other classes are enemyFire/Ice/Earth etc and weapontypes, thePlayer, MySound and one more which i cant remember(lol tired).


package // Main code/class
{

import flash.display.*;
import flash.events.*;
import flash.ui.Keyboard;
import flash.text.TextField;
import flash.media.Sound;
import flash.net.URLRequest;
import flash.events.MouseEvent;
import flash.utils.Timer;
import flash.events.TimerEvent;

public class main extends MovieClip
{
private var player:thePlayer;
private var enemyTime:int = 0;
private var enemyLimit:int = 100;
private var myHitsNo:int;
private var mybullets:Array;
private var enemys:Array;
private var weaponType:int;
private var myLives:int;
private var fireTimer:Timer; //delay between shots
private var canFire:Boolean = true;
private var mySound:MySound;
private var bulletSpeed:Number = -450;

//public var soundFX = new Sound();
public var spawnPoint1:int = 295;
public var spawnPoint2:int = 385;
public var spawnPoint3:int = 475;
public var spawnPoint4:int = 567;;
public var enemySpeed:int = 4;

public function main()
{
//load sounds
mySound = new MySound();
}

private function playGame(event:MouseEvent)
{
gotoAndStop(2);
// initialize
myLives = 5;
myHitsNo = 0;
weaponType = 1;
mybullets = new Array();
enemys = new Array();
myScoreTxt.text = "Score: " + myHitsNo;
myLivesTxt.text = "Lives: " + myLives;

fireTimer = new Timer(400, 1);
fireTimer.addEventListener(TimerEvent.TIMER, shootTimerHandler, false, 0, true);

stage.addEventListener(KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN, listenKeyDown);
stage.addEventListener(Event.ENTER_FRAME, addEnemy);
stage.addEventListener(Event.ENTER_FRAME, checkCollision);
player = new thePlayer(stage.stageWidth-40, spawnPoint2);// stage.stageHeight/2);
stage.focus = player;
addChild(player);

mySound.playBgSound();
}

private function cleanUp()
{
stage.removeEventListener(KeyboardEvent.KEY_DOWN, listenKeyDown);
stage.removeEventListener(Event.ENTER_FRAME, addEnemy);
stage.removeEventListener(Event.ENTER_FRAME, checkCollision);

// remove all children manually
// copy the array so we dont delete items in the array
// we`re working in
var tmpArray = new Array();
for(var i in mybullets)
{
tmpArray.push(mybullets[i]);
}
for (var j in tmpArray)
{
tmpArray[j].deleteBullet();
}

tmpArray = new Array();
for(var k in enemys)
{
tmpArray.push(enemys[k]);
}
for(var l in tmpArray)
{
tmpArray[l].deleteEnemy();
}

removeChild(player);
fireTimer = null;

mySound.stopBgSound();
}

private function gotoStartScreen(event:MouseEvent)
{
cleanUp();
gotoAndStop(1);
}

public function listenKeyDown(event:KeyboardEvent) // Controls and weapontype selector
{
if (event.keyCode == 37) //left
{
player.movethePlayerDown();
}
if (event.keyCode == 39) //right
{
player.movethePlayerUp();
}
if (event.keyCode == Keyboard.SPACE) //space
{
shootBullet();
//soundFX.attachSound("Pistol Fire.wav");
//soundFX.start();
}
if (event.keyCode == Keyboard.NUMBER_1)
{
weaponType = 1;
}
if (event.keyCode == Keyboard.NUMBER_2)
{
weaponType = 2;
}
if (event.keyCode == Keyboard.NUMBER_3)
{
weaponType = 3;
}
if (event.keyCode == Keyboard.NUMBER_4)
{
weaponType = 4;
}
}

public function shootBullet() // Self explanatory, shoots the bullet and which type of bullet
{
if (canFire)
{
if(weaponType == 1) // fire
{
mySound.playFireSound();
var b:shotFire = new shotFire(player.x,player.y, bulletSpeed);
addChild(b);
mybullets.push(b);
}
if(weaponType == 2) // water
{
mySound.playWaterSound();
var c:shotWater = new shotWater(player.x,player.y, bulletSpeed);
addChild(c);
mybullets.push(c);
}
if(weaponType == 3) // light
{
mySound.playLightSound();
var d:shotLight = new shotLight(player.x,player.y, bulletSpeed);
addChild(d);
mybullets.push(d);
}
if(weaponType == 4) // earth
{
mySound.playEarthSound();
var e:shotEarth = new shotEarth(player.x,player.y, bulletSpeed);
addChild(e);
mybullets.push(e);
}
canFire = false;
fireTimer.start();
}
}

private function shootTimerHandler(e:TimerEvent) : void
{
//timer ran, we can shoot again.
canFire = true;
}

public function removeBullet(mybullet) // Removes bullet
{
for(var i in mybullets)
{
if (mybullets[i] == mybullet)
{
mybullets.splice(i,1);
break;
}
}
}

public function removeEnemy(myEnemy) // Removes enemies
{
for(var i in enemys)
{
if (enemys[i] == myEnemy)
{
enemys.splice(i,1);
break;
}
}
}

// returns true if im out of lives; dead
public function decreaseLivesAndCheckIfDead() : Boolean // decreases lives with 1 and updates the status text
{
myLives--;
myLivesTxt.text = "Lives: " + myLives;
if (myLives < 0)
{
var score = myHitsNo; // save the score before cleanUp()
cleanUp();
gotoAndStop(3); // go to the game over screen
finalScoreTxt.text = "Your score: " + score;
return true;
}
return false;
}

public function checkCollision(event:Event) // Collision detection, but also block speed increase,
{
// copy the arrays so we dont delete items in our working arrays
var tmpArrayEnemys = new Array();
for (var k in enemys)
{
tmpArrayEnemys.push(enemys[k]);
}
var tmpArrayBullets = new Array();
for (var l in mybullets)
{
tmpArrayBullets.push(mybullets[l]);
}

for(var j in tmpArrayEnemys)
{
// check if any of the blocks hit my ship!
if (tmpArrayEnemys[j].hitTestObject(player))
{
if (decreaseLivesAndCheckIfDead())
return; // stop the collision detection if i`m dead!!

tmpArrayEnemys[j].deleteEnemy();
}

for(var i in tmpArrayBullets)
{
// check if any of the bullets on the screen hits any enemies on the screen
//if (tmpArrayBullets[i].hitTestObject(tmpArrayEnemys[j]))
if(PixelPerfectCollisionDetection.isColliding(tmpArrayBullets[i],tmpArrayEnemys[j],this,true)==true)
{
if (tmpArrayEnemys[j].hitEnemy(tmpArrayBullets[i]))
{ //count only if we actually hits the block
myHitsNo++;
myScoreTxt.text = "Score: " + myHitsNo;

if (myHitsNo % 7 == 0)
{ // increase the speed every 7th hit
enemySpeed = enemySpeed + 1;
if (enemyLimit > 30)
{
enemyLimit = enemyLimit - 10;
}
}
}

tmpArrayBullets[i].deleteBullet();
}
}
}
}

public function addEnemy(event:Event):void // How enemies are added and randomized
{
if(enemyTime < enemyLimit)
{
enemyTime ++;
}
else
{
var newEnemy;
// randomize which enemy that should spawn
var number = Math.ceil(Math.random()*4);
if (number == 1)
{
newEnemy = new enemyEarth();
}
else if (number == 2)
{
newEnemy = new enemyFire();
}
else if (number == 3)
{
newEnemy = new enemyWater();
}
else if (number == 4)
{
newEnemy = new enemyIce();
}
newEnemy.x = -1 * newEnemy.width;

// randomize the spawn point for the enemy
var spawnPoint = Math.ceil(Math.random()*4);
if (spawnPoint == 1)
{
newEnemy.y = spawnPoint1;
}
else if (spawnPoint == 2)
{
newEnemy.y = spawnPoint2;
}
else if (spawnPoint == 3)
{
newEnemy.y = spawnPoint3;
}
else if (spawnPoint == 4)
{
newEnemy.y = spawnPoint4;
}

enemys.push(newEnemy);

addChild(newEnemy);
enemyTime = 0;

}
}
}
}


The one grading it should know the workload as we wrote a report about it and filled out a form of how we divided the workload, i think it said i did 80% of the code or so.

So where does one go from here? I'm gonna complain tomorrow but anything i should ask for? How they rated it? WHat their motivation was to grade me as low as my two group members? How big is the chance i can get this bumped to like a C or something?


edit

Also something i want to add, the course avg was a B in grades. 6 out of 48 recieved a D, nobody recieved lower. So me and my buddies are 3 of the 6 lowest grades, and i certainly dont feel like i belong that far down with the work i put in and how my code looks...


57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 22:03:20
May 05 2011 22:02 GMT
#2
Ask politely about it, if you get rude and angry, they will make you keep the D. Maybe he/she didn't see the note or something.

Although if the entire group was supposed to get the same mark, your two partners don't deserve the mark you would have gotten, so maybe she is punishing them and second-hand punishing you (not on purpose).
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
May 05 2011 22:05 GMT
#3
I'm guessing your teacher didn't even look at your code at all and just the finished product. Thats what pisses me off when i spend many hours on a project trying to implement techniques that are more advanced than the project requires, yet my teacher doesn't even notice because he doesn't bother to check the code.
Talent.L
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
119 Posts
May 05 2011 22:05 GMT
#4
Cruel reality, happens to me all the time where I work 5x as hard as others but get somewhat of the same if not worse outcome.

You mind showing me your code? Btw why bump it to only C? If you want to argue for it at least bump it to a B to show that this is important to you.

Anyways, ask politely and provide your reasons. Wish you luck ;o
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
May 05 2011 22:06 GMT
#5
That really sucks :/ I don't think you can get your grade bumped up unless it is an obvious error from the professor. Try to be positive: for every grade that you get that is too low you will (statistically) get a too good grade compared to the effort you put in. It happens to every one in the univ sooner or later, if that makes you feel better.
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heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 22:10:21
May 05 2011 22:09 GMT
#6
I don't know much about sweden, but in case your professor/teacher keeps being stubborn about it, there is usually a way to go gradually up the ladder. Usually it starts with some kind of advisory professor/teacher within your school/college, if he doesn't agree with what you think you deserve you can go to the principle, and after that if you're lucky there are even overarching governmental issues where you can complain. In Germany that would be possible for example, but of course I can't speak for other countries at all.

If it's really like someone suggested above and he didn't even look at the code, then he's obviously an idiot (the class is about game programming after all) and the way up the ladder should be pretty successfull.

I'd of course start by simply talking to the professor in a nice way, first of all asking him why you received such a bad rating in the first place, and then you should go on to explain your point of view.

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loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
May 05 2011 22:09 GMT
#7
Lol, I'm doing my IB exams now and for the first time in high school i couldnt care less about my marks. Nice feeling when you know you can just study comfortably and do ur best. Whether I get a 90 or a 50 is irrelevant at this point, as long as i pass i get a diploma and i already got accepted to the uni based on my school marks :D
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 22:11:36
May 05 2011 22:11 GMT
#8
Ask some time alone with the teacher, ask why you got that mark, and explain to him/her what you have done,(show your code). If not, you can go to the exam comitee(If you have one) I believe, and write a letter of complaint. Don't overdo it though, get some time with that teacher 1on1(or with the group 3/4 on 1, whatever the amount of people was). And carefully explain and ask.
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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
May 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#9
On May 06 2011 07:05 Talent.L wrote:
Cruel reality, happens to me all the time where I work 5x as hard as others but get somewhat of the same if not worse outcome.

You mind showing me your code? Btw why bump it to only C? If you want to argue for it at least bump it to a B to show that this is important to you.

Anyways, ask politely and provide your reasons. Wish you luck ;o


Sent you the main class code in PM, dunno how the formating will look there though. But it should give the best oversigh of the code.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
May 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#10
On May 06 2011 07:02 57 Corvette wrote:
Although if the entire group was supposed to get the same mark, your two partners don't deserve the mark you would have gotten, so maybe she is punishing them and second-hand punishing you (not on purpose).


We were supposed to recieve individual grades based on the stuff we'd done.

On May 06 2011 07:05 Pengu1n wrote:
I'm guessing your teacher didn't even look at your code at all and just the finished product. Thats what pisses me off when i spend many hours on a project trying to implement techniques that are more advanced than the project requires, yet my teacher doesn't even notice because he doesn't bother to check the code.


I'm hoping for something as simple as this, it was a programing class and the finished product DID look kinda bad(graphicly), but that had nothing to do with what i did. Because if its this simple it should be easy to get a second judgement.

It's just this that bums me out, i have never actually worked hard on something and gotten a bad grade, if i slack of i get a D and i totally buy that. But when i actually work i expect to recieve better, especially since i feel the code is more advanced then the class teaches.
Dittert
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States97 Posts
May 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#11
I agree with everyone else who says you should just go talk to the professor. It's possible they didn't even look at your work individually.

Also 2 other things to keep in mind:
1) Does the grade really matter (or matter to you)? At most schools in America, anything better than an F is good enough. Changing your grade is not going to change your ability to program in Flash.
2) You could think about this as a negotiation. If you really want a C, ask for an A. Giving you a C will make the teacher think he/she is meeting you halfway.
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
May 05 2011 22:21 GMT
#12
Your university/college should have a place or process to deal with unfair grading. All post secondary education facilities probably have something along those lines. Try giving that a try.
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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
May 05 2011 22:24 GMT
#13
On May 06 2011 07:16 JDittert wrote:
I agree with everyone else who says you should just go talk to the professor. It's possible they didn't even look at your work individually.

Also 2 other things to keep in mind:
1) Does the grade really matter (or matter to you)? At most schools in America, anything better than an F is good enough. Changing your grade is not going to change your ability to program in Flash.
2) You could think about this as a negotiation. If you really want a C, ask for an A. Giving you a C will make the teacher think he/she is meeting you halfway.


Yeah i am talking to the proffessor, no doubt about it. He's normally a cool guy aswell which is why im kinda confused, but he wasnt the only one grading assignments though. And yes it will change a little bit, im not looking to work with anything flash related but companies here(i live in Norway actually) usually ask for your average grade in their online apply forms, and if its too low they won't even look at your application. This D kinda drags me down or has the ability to drag me down. Also when i put in the effort i expect to be atleast somewhat properly rewarded, because had i half-assed this i'd be like happy with a D.

Like my group mates, they kinda half assed it and i got the impression they were pretty happy about their D's. To put it into perspective, they said right before i checked my grades "You probably got a B then or something" and one of them even sent me a thank you sms after we had delivered it for working so hard on it and making it so functional.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
May 05 2011 22:26 GMT
#14
Also something i want to add, the course avg was a B in grades. 6 out of 48 recieved a D, nobody recieved lower. So me and my buddies are 3 of the 6 lowest grades, and i certainly dont feel like i belong that far down with the work i put in and how my code looks...
Talent.L
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
119 Posts
May 05 2011 22:27 GMT
#15
it's a well written code for a beginners course...i would say definitely a B- from my experiences, i don't understand how you manage to get a D though...O_O did you ask why such a low grade is given?
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
May 05 2011 22:30 GMT
#16
On May 06 2011 07:27 Talent.L wrote:
it's a well written code for a beginners course...i would say definitely a B- from my experiences, i don't understand how you manage to get a D though...O_O did you ask why such a low grade is given?


Got the grade today, going to see my proffessor first thing tomorrow. I myself am just hoping there has been some misstake or some missunderstanding that they misstook me for my group buddies or something.

And yeah the class went through all basic things like some easy OO programing and such but not many utilized it, and it only required people to have very basic programing knowledge, able to create functions and if sentences pretty much.

And i dont understand the D either, i was dumbstruck or whatever the word for it is when i saw my grade.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
May 05 2011 22:33 GMT
#17
On May 06 2011 07:30 unkkz wrote:
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On May 06 2011 07:27 Talent.L wrote:
it's a well written code for a beginners course...i would say definitely a B- from my experiences, i don't understand how you manage to get a D though...O_O did you ask why such a low grade is given?


Got the grade today, going to see my proffessor first thing tomorrow. I myself am just hoping there has been some misstake or some missunderstanding that they misstook me for my group buddies or something.

And yeah the class went through all basic things like some easy OO programing and such but not many utilized it, and it only required people to have very basic programing knowledge, able to create functions and if sentences pretty much.

And i dont understand the D either, i was dumbstruck or whatever the word for it is when i saw my grade.


Okay this might not be true at all. But you say the game could have been better. Did the people who just wrote it in one big thing actually have the same functionality and gameplay as you. If so you should have been able to achieve more with your 'superior' programming.

In the end it usualy comes down to this. Does it run ? Nobody cares how it's written as long as there are no problems. You dont look at sc2 sourcecode and look if its pretty ? (not that you can since you dont get it).
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
May 05 2011 22:36 GMT
#18
In my experience, as long as you're reasonable, professors are usually willing to give you the grade you deserve, which in this case seems higher than a D. Just don't get angry with him, be understanding that he has a lot of these to grade and it's not a simple thing to do. If you're nice, I'd imagine you'll get what you want.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
Talent.L
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
119 Posts
May 05 2011 22:37 GMT
#19
On May 06 2011 07:33 Marradron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 07:30 unkkz wrote:
On May 06 2011 07:27 Talent.L wrote:
it's a well written code for a beginners course...i would say definitely a B- from my experiences, i don't understand how you manage to get a D though...O_O did you ask why such a low grade is given?


Got the grade today, going to see my proffessor first thing tomorrow. I myself am just hoping there has been some misstake or some missunderstanding that they misstook me for my group buddies or something.

And yeah the class went through all basic things like some easy OO programing and such but not many utilized it, and it only required people to have very basic programing knowledge, able to create functions and if sentences pretty much.

And i dont understand the D either, i was dumbstruck or whatever the word for it is when i saw my grade.


Okay this might not be true at all. But you say the game could have been better. Did the people who just wrote it in one big thing actually have the same functionality and gameplay as you. If so you should have been able to achieve more with your 'superior' programming.

In the end it usualy comes down to this. Does it run ? Nobody cares how it's written as long as there are no problems. You dont look at sc2 sourcecode and look if its pretty ? (not that you can since you dont get it).



yeah but the thing is, he showed his code to a Master student who said it looks good.
and im not too advanced into programming but his code definitely seems runnable and logical
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 22:48:15
May 05 2011 22:44 GMT
#20
On May 06 2011 07:33 Marradron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 07:30 unkkz wrote:
On May 06 2011 07:27 Talent.L wrote:
it's a well written code for a beginners course...i would say definitely a B- from my experiences, i don't understand how you manage to get a D though...O_O did you ask why such a low grade is given?


Got the grade today, going to see my proffessor first thing tomorrow. I myself am just hoping there has been some misstake or some missunderstanding that they misstook me for my group buddies or something.

And yeah the class went through all basic things like some easy OO programing and such but not many utilized it, and it only required people to have very basic programing knowledge, able to create functions and if sentences pretty much.

And i dont understand the D either, i was dumbstruck or whatever the word for it is when i saw my grade.


Okay this might not be true at all. But you say the game could have been better. Did the people who just wrote it in one big thing actually have the same functionality and gameplay as you. If so you should have been able to achieve more with your 'superior' programming.

In the end it usualy comes down to this. Does it run ? Nobody cares how it's written as long as there are no problems. You dont look at sc2 sourcecode and look if its pretty ? (not that you can since you dont get it).


The game could've LOOKED better, as in visually better(Graphics and flash animations). Which has nothing to do with what i did, i did the coding, i should be judged by the coding as per the criteria of the course states(you are judged after what YOU do in the assignment, not as a whole group)

I didnt look that deep into what their functionalities and gameplay were, but even if they had the same it still wasnt A. Object oriented and B. It wouldn't matter, if they get a B or a C for their programing, and mine is just as good only object oriented(which afaik is like always a plus) i should recieve a similar grade, dont you think? And it runs yes, theres a minor bugg in it that the spawn time of enemies increase of time, this doesn't reset when you go back to main meny via a button and is something i can fix in 30 sec, its a minor bugg(I forgot to add one line of code to the reset function, aka the code that determines enemy spawn speed) and if you reload the gamepage this works fine. Vs the buggs some of the ones i checked out had(controls didnt work, spawn patterns of enemies were nigh impossible for the player etc)

Could i have added more functionality to the game per say? Yes ofcourse, you always can. But i already did so much, on my own at that, so i dont feel thats much of an arguement. You can always add more functionality to a game or program.
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